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    some 18 year old kid in NY was in a fight with his moms....

    She called the cops, said that he was threatening her with two knives.... Then said he had a gun, he can be heard in teh background flaunting that he had a gun...

    Police arrive, he reaches under his shirt and police fire 20 rounds at him, hitting him with 10, killing him... They search him, it was a brush, no gun was found, because of this civil rights people are all up in arms "da kops killd'd him cuz he wuz black".... BS

    angers me.

    If i'm a cop... the kids OWN mom said he had a gun, which is why we are there... kid comes out posturing to kill/injure me and/or my fellow cops, of course i'd eliminate the threat......

    who to blame?
    I say idiots like the "supaman dat hoe" and hurricane chris and etc...

    instilling the idiot "f$%# da po-leece" mentality into kids these days.

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    yeah - I had to lol at the kid - what kind of moron tries to pretend his hairbrush is a gun, more or less have it UNDER his shirt


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormhammer
    yeah - I had to lol at the kid - what kind of moron tries to pretend his hairbrush is a gun, more or less have it UNDER his shirt
    regardless of that, that kid deserved what he got..

    The issue is... what kind of idiot(s) try to stir up drama and bring the race card into this... Like the NY police force is all, or even mostly white to begin with.

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    yea i hate people throwing that oh hes black so its wrong bull****!!!!!......that lil knee-grow shouldnt have let it escalate to where madd cops show up!!!!........this reminds me of that gang member who got shot in compton......he had a slipper under his shirt and when he pulled it out they killed him too........less assholes on the street now!!!.......1

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy
    regardless of that, that kid deserved what he got..

    The issue is... what kind of idiot(s) try to stir up drama and bring the race card into this... Like the NY police force is all, or even mostly white to begin with.
    thats a little harsh to say.

    i dont see the race card in this matter but im sure the plice could have minimized the amount of shots and WHERE they shot him.

    what ever happened to "disarming" the person first before arresting them? i was told the police are taught where to shoot/disarm people in order for them to arrest them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasuki_Civic
    thats a little harsh to say.

    i dont see the race card in this matter but im sure the plice could have minimized the amount of shots and WHERE they shot him.

    what ever happened to "disarming" the person first before arresting them? i was told the police are taught where to shoot/disarm people in order for them to arrest them.
    when it is reported the kid was bragging about having a gun in the background and threatening his mother to kill her, they awere justified IMO. When a suspect pulls a gun there is no telling where he will shoot first. That is why all cops fired, kinda hard not to kill a person when you dont know exactly who's life is threatened. If someone said they were going to shoot me and attempted to reach for a gun I am firing no questions asked. There is no time to wait and see when life is at stake.

    And anybody with enough disrespect to threaten there own mother deserves to die anyway. In jail, you get beat and raped for harming family and children. Either way he would of got his.

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    Wow...that's ****ing retarded. I bet, though, that they claim because the MOM stated it, and not the kid, they'll pull off the "cuz he was black" theme (yes, theme) that has no swept the nation. In addition, at least the kid was 18 and considered an adult and making his own decisions, HOWEVER, that will only be further justification for the "cuz he's blacK' theory in that the mother no longer can speak for the kid (yes, I say kid as a mentality level) because he's "of legal age" to be an adult...no matter what his IQ level is.

    I, personally, wish that PUBLICALLY I could walk up to the officers who pulled the trigger and HIT their target. 1) For being a good shot, and 2) For taking out someone in this world who clearly did NOT need to breed.
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    nothing beats the ole race card

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    he sounds like a real winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeD
    he sounds like a real winner.
    A real dead one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvasiveEF9
    A real dead one.
    touche.

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    WOOP WOOP WOOP Incoming Superman Sharpton and The Boy Wonder Jesse Jackson tto explode this into the next Civil Rights movement. What we can expect from this blockbuster B-movie:

    1. Incredible claims of poverty, maltreatment and racial claims of hatred and bigotry.

    2. Loads of TV coverage.

    3. Media misrepresentation of the entire situation.

    4. Complete omission of facts.

    I for one look forward to this sequel of "Nightmare of the Jena 6, Blight of the American people"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glides
    WOOP WOOP WOOP Incoming Superman Sharpton and The Boy Wonder Jesse Jackson tto explode this into the next Civil Rights movement. What we can expect from this blockbuster B-movie:

    1. Incredible claims of poverty, maltreatment and racial claims of hatred and bigotry.

    2. Loads of TV coverage.

    3. Media misrepresentation of the entire situation.

    4. Complete omission of facts.

    I for one look forward to this sequel of "Nightmare of the Jena 6, Blight of the American people"

    Rock on.
    In number 3, misinterpretation, you forgot to add that the civil rights movement and stuff is going to COMPLETELY forget that a boy was injured in this "tragedy" and the court case all together...and the main topic will be "unfair treatment of black people" rather than "this kid threatened police with a "gun", so they took him out"
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvasiveEF9
    In number 3, misinterpretation, you forgot to add that the civil rights movement and stuff is going to COMPLETELY forget that a boy was injured in this "tragedy" and the court case all together...and the main topic will be "unfair treatment of black people" rather than "this kid threatened police with a "gun", so they took him out"
    Exactly. This will turn into the same muddled down fiasco that the Atlanta one did when they shot that lady in her house. Everyone conveniently skipped over the fact that her son (or grandson) was dealing drugs out of there, that she had a gun and fired on police when they busted in (in police uniforms yelling police things like "freeze Police"). They only saw that a black woman was shot.

    The excuses were great. "Well, she didn't know they were police" HELLOOOO, a bunch of WHITE dudes come busting in your house in the GHETTO, i'm sure thats a rare occurance round them there parts. Something must be amiss. "Robbers have used police uniforms before" True...black on black crime sucks, but see above.

    Was it a tradgedy? Sure as hell was. Nobody likes to see someone get full of bullets in their own home. But was it the cops fault? Nope, the blame lies squarely on the head of the son or grandson that was dealing drugs out of his grandmothers house. He will rot in hell for that. Not the media, not the cops, not mine or yours or the Sultan of Brunais, but that stupid kid who put his grandmother in harms way.

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    they should be more concerned that it took 20 rounds to take him out... it should only take a few, cops with bad aim :thumbsdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z_Chic
    they should be more concerned that it took 20 rounds to take him out... it should only take a few, cops with bad aim :thumbsdown:
    Your post is so full of win, you deserve a sheet of cookies. I rate it a 10.5 on a scale of 1 to awesome.

    +1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z_Chic
    they should be more concerned that it took 20 rounds to take him out... it should only take a few, cops with bad aim :thumbsdown:
    HAHA! +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z_Chic
    they should be more concerned that it took 20 rounds to take him out... it should only take a few, cops with bad aim :thumbsdown:
    everyone knows cops cant shoot for ****. it should only take ONE shot, right in the forehead.

    or TWO in the chest.... not 10 in the wall, 5 in the hips, one hand shot, 3 in the legs and one in the chest.


    cops suck ass...... they are unreliable
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    Quote Originally Posted by SL65AMG
    everyone knows cops cant shoot for ****. it should only take ONE shot, right in the forehead.

    or TWO in the chest.... not 10 in the wall, 5 in the hips, one hand shot, 3 in the legs and one in the chest.


    cops suck ass...... they are unreliable
    Put their ****ty-ass pistols in your hands under that kind of pressure in that kind of environment from that distance. I'm not saying they're good at shooting...but I'm also saying they're not gonna have one shot one kill.

    In addition, I'm no sharpshooter, but when a life is threatened, you're not taking the time to line up one shot, pull the trigger, readjust, and fire again. For the most part your firing a round as soon as the gun is pointed in that man's direction. I go to the range frequently. I know my rifle, and I know my pistol. One-shot rounds I can hit my target, or within an inch of it from a good distance. Burst firing is when distance plays a BIG part...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvasiveEF9
    Put their ****ty-ass pistols in your hands under that kind of pressure in that kind of environment from that distance. I'm not saying they're good at shooting...but I'm also saying they're not gonna have one shot one kill.

    In addition, I'm no sharpshooter, but when a life is threatened, you're not taking the time to line up one shot, pull the trigger, readjust, and fire again. For the most part your firing a round as soon as the gun is pointed in that man's direction. I go to the range frequently. I know my rifle, and I know my pistol. One-shot rounds I can hit my target, or within an inch of it from a good distance. Burst firing is when distance plays a BIG part...
    i agree, and firing under stress it different too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SL65AMG
    i agree, and firing under stress it different too.
    Exactly...like I said. I go to the range frequently. I'm a good shot. But I'll be damned if I wanna "draw" with someone...

    Speaking of, I need to go to the range, again...

    Man, I can't wait for MCT. M16 in my hands with unlimited ammo (for the most part...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SL65AMG
    everyone knows cops cant shoot for ****. it should only take ONE shot, right in the forehead.

    or TWO in the chest.... not 10 in the wall, 5 in the hips, one hand shot, 3 in the legs and one in the chest.


    cops suck ass...... they are unreliable
    Comon man. I'm sure that whey you wack it, you can hit the shot sock dead on everytime. But get with a real girl and you couldn't hit her mouth to save your life. Excitement spoils aim everytime.

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    Yet from what allllllll the witnesses are saying, he came outside with the brush in his hand and it was clearly a brown brush. I never heard of anything to the fact that he reached for his brush like it was a gun or held it as it was a gun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bballjamal
    Yet from what allllllll the witnesses are saying, he came outside with the brush in his hand and it was clearly a brown brush. I never heard of anything to the fact that he reached for his brush like it was a gun or held it as it was a gun!
    I hear you. In true media fashion, the entire story get twisted around and nobody knows who's is correct and not correct. Such is the sad times we live in man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glides
    I hear you. In true media fashion, the entire story get twisted around and nobody knows who's is correct and not correct. Such is the sad times we live in man.

    Yea bro! But all they'll probably get repremanded for is using excessive force. The whole 102.5fm team will probably hype this up such as everyone suspects and we'll see something else happen similar to Atlanta (the Frozen Palace Police shooting) and the Jena Rally on a smaller scale. Who knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glides
    I hear you. In true media fashion, the entire story get twisted around and nobody knows who's is correct and not correct. Such is the sad times we live in man.
    That's why yall need to watch this www.zeitgeistmovie.com. To help get a better understanding what's going on.

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    The guy has records of being metally unstable

    and after the shooting, it was found that he was very suicidal and had alot ot fondness of death, and was severly depressed. he wasnt no gangster, he may have provoked it. But please get the story correct.

    the operator called his mom, back later before the cops arrived, and asked if he had a gun, and she told them no. and she also told the police that he was off his medication.

    i dont blame the cops for shooting, but maybe it should have been handled different given his mental condition..

    "Mr. Coppin’s mother was among the people outside the building during the shooting. Earlier in the day, she had called a hospital psychiatric unit asking for urgent help in dealing with her son, the law enforcement official said. Psychiatric workers came, but Mr. Coppin was gone. After waiting two hours, the workers left, and later, Mr. Coppin returned.
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    Two bystanders who said they had seen the shooting said that Mr. Coppin was not armed, but was carrying a hairbrush when he climbed out the window and that he dropped it when the firing began. The two witnesses also said they both heard one officer yelling for the shooting to stop.

    According to the police, another witness described Mr. Coppin as concealing the hairbrush under his shirt, pointing it outward. Mr. Kelly said at the news conference this afternoon that at least 10 different witnesses had provided statements that corroborated the officers’ accounts.

    “All 10 witnesses said they heard the officers tell Khiel to stop and show his hands,” he said. “Several people interviewed by police officers said they believed Khiel had a gun under his sweatshirt.” Almost immediately after the shooting, a restless crowd quickly gathered and grew to as many as 150, as some neighbors shouted protests against police brutality. “You need training — this is absurd!” one woman shouted out a window to the police. Another man pressed against a yellow crime-scene tape and said: “I’m not trying to start a riot. I’m just saying it’s not right.”

    The site and surrounding blocks were cordoned off as dozens of police officers, detectives and community affairs officers arrived to investigate the shooting and control the crowd. Community leaders at the scene included City Councilman Albert Vann.

    Witnesses and the police offered different details about how the shooting occurred.

    Mr. Sanchez said that just before the shooting, he went outside and saw several officers there with guns drawn. Mr. Coppin approached the window, backed away, then returned and stood on the sill, Mr. Sanchez said. When an officer told him to get down, he jumped to the ground and started to go through a gate in the fence in front of the building, Mr. Sanchez said.

    An officer told Mr. Coppin to put up his hands, and when he did he dropped the hairbrush and the shooting began, although one officer called out to stop the gunfire, Mr. Sanchez said.

    Officers started chasing Mr. Sanchez and knocked him to the ground after, he said, he protested: “Why you got to shoot him like that, for nothing?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    The guy has records of being metally unstable

    and after the shooting, it was found that he was very suicidal and had alot ot fondness of death, and was severly depressed. he wasnt no gangster, he may have provoked it. But please get the story correct.

    the operator called his mom, back later before the cops arrived, and asked if he had a gun, and she told them no. and she also told the police that he was off his medication.

    i dont blame the cops for shooting, but maybe it should have been handled different given his mental condition..

    "Mr. Coppin’s mother was among the people outside the building during the shooting. Earlier in the day, she had called a hospital psychiatric unit asking for urgent help in dealing with her son, the law enforcement official said. Psychiatric workers came, but Mr. Coppin was gone. After waiting two hours, the workers left, and later, Mr. Coppin returned.
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    Two bystanders who said they had seen the shooting said that Mr. Coppin was not armed, but was carrying a hairbrush when he climbed out the window and that he dropped it when the firing began. The two witnesses also said they both heard one officer yelling for the shooting to stop.

    According to the police, another witness described Mr. Coppin as concealing the hairbrush under his shirt, pointing it outward. Mr. Kelly said at the news conference this afternoon that at least 10 different witnesses had provided statements that corroborated the officers’ accounts.

    “All 10 witnesses said they heard the officers tell Khiel to stop and show his hands,” he said. “Several people interviewed by police officers said they believed Khiel had a gun under his sweatshirt.” Almost immediately after the shooting, a restless crowd quickly gathered and grew to as many as 150, as some neighbors shouted protests against police brutality. “You need training — this is absurd!” one woman shouted out a window to the police. Another man pressed against a yellow crime-scene tape and said: “I’m not trying to start a riot. I’m just saying it’s not right.”

    The site and surrounding blocks were cordoned off as dozens of police officers, detectives and community affairs officers arrived to investigate the shooting and control the crowd. Community leaders at the scene included City Councilman Albert Vann.

    Witnesses and the police offered different details about how the shooting occurred.

    Mr. Sanchez said that just before the shooting, he went outside and saw several officers there with guns drawn. Mr. Coppin approached the window, backed away, then returned and stood on the sill, Mr. Sanchez said. When an officer told him to get down, he jumped to the ground and started to go through a gate in the fence in front of the building, Mr. Sanchez said.

    An officer told Mr. Coppin to put up his hands, and when he did he dropped the hairbrush and the shooting began, although one officer called out to stop the gunfire, Mr. Sanchez said.

    Officers started chasing Mr. Sanchez and knocked him to the ground after, he said, he protested: “Why you got to shoot him like that, for nothing?”
    I know these aren't all your words, and I"m not holding you at fault, but I do see some contradicting lines in there...
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    I would have shot his ass too. You never know what he could have had under there.

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    See. Different people saw different things. That happens everywhere. The trouble comes in when the media takes the worst of the stories and prints them. Then it becomes the truth because...well, it's on the TV so it must be right.

    See, most Americans can't be bothered to go and look up the facts. If it's on TV, it's the truth. Who has time to research things, what with all the Lattes, Aerobics, Text messages and cel phone calls one is already busy with during the day to actually think for themselves? I mean comon.

    The media knows this and they can sway anything, anyway they want. The one thing that pisses me off the most about people is this. When the media gets some information, they print it but the source wants to remain anonymous because he wasn't supposed to open his ****ing mouth in the first place. I hate that. If you aren't supposed to talk, STFU!. These police people and other folks that just can't wait to tell somebody something, they are just about urinating in their pants to go out and tell the first person with a tape recorder they can find...but uh oh, you can't say I told you so. **** that, shoot them cunts, then maybe that crap won't happen.

    I'm perturbed now

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    But the real problem , is that its like the 3rd time that its happened in Ny.. a person shot "excessively" and ended up being unarmed.

    To me its possible to see this problem being solved, i mean look at what happen in Atlanta, earlier inthe year 13 people where killed by the police, and the police said that they would practice more non lethal ways to control someone.

    but than again im not a cop, and i do understand not taking any chances when put in a situation like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    But the real problem , is that its like the 3rd time that its happened in Ny.. a person shot "excessively" and ended up being unarmed.

    To me its possible to see this problem being solved, i mean look at what happen in Atlanta, earlier inthe year 13 people where killed by the police, and the police said that they would practice more non lethal ways to control someone.

    but than again im not a cop, and i do understand not taking any chances when put in a situation like this.

    you mean this month....? that kind of thing isnt unusual from what i heard. but hey that was only "he say she say" stuff.


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    Oh, and also...consider me messed up for saying this...but...the way I see it, the kid was messed up in the head and on medication (or...wasn't). So now, that's one less person the state has to fun for their mental instabilities, and the kid no longer has to worry about how mentally messed up he is...

    Problems solved...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvasiveEF9
    Oh, and also...consider me messed up for saying this...but...the way I see it, the kid was messed up in the head and on medication (or...wasn't). So now, that's one less person the state has to fun for their mental instabilities, and the kid no longer has to worry about how mentally messed up he is...

    Problems solved...
    ......harsh but true!!!!!!....1

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    I'm straight up with no candy coating...
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    Sometimes the police use excessive force, sometimes idiots play with fire.

    Sometimes it gets people killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivenMind
    Sometimes the police use excessive force, sometimes idiots play with fire.

    Sometimes it gets people killed.
    I say just kill 'em all. Then may we, as well as the shellfish, will survive.
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    the cops killed him because he was an idiot. civil rights has no place here. Arent cops supposed to shoot a suspect when is informed that he is armed and he ATTEMPTS to reach for his weapon? They were just doing their job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSINXS
    the cops killed him because he was an idiot. civil rights has no place here. Arent cops supposed to shoot a suspect when is informed that he is armed and he ATTEMPTS to reach for his weapon? They were just doing their job.
    I'm personally happy they shot him. On the other hand, there's alot of discussion and debate over if the kid actually WAS armed, and did he REALLY reach for a "gun" and did the cops have reason to believe he had a gun, or was that "threat" cancelled...?

    I mean there's alot to debate. My side is just that it's one less dumb **** in this world...
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