Crucial Ink!.At its best...

[Crucial]

Hey was good, just posting up some pics that I worked on. All of these photos that I have work on were not taken by me though I do take pictures myself. All of these pictures have been takin by the owner of the vehicle posted. All I did was add a lil twist to em.Let me know what you think! Check out my myspace for more updates! Add me when you get a chance if you got some flicks on there you would like me to work on. I am looking for certain kind of images for digital portfolio Im creatin. I only work on the best of the best! Rep if you like em hehe

www.myspace.com/jonathanto


Crucial

Moes 86

Frankys CB7

Williams CD5

[Benefit]

damn moe

[Crucial]

...?

[TRDwasiq]

moe u basterd

[Crucial]

lol why is everything related to moe lol... no one says anything about the images yet lol

[TRDwasiq]

they are cool

[Crucial]

preciate it

[SixSquared]

ummmm.... ok?

[Crucial]

ummmm.... ok?

What is that suppose to mean?

[NoPainT]

lol what up!!!

[K24cb7coupe]

them joints is hot especially the last one! hahaha

[SixSquared]

What is that suppose to mean?

Means I don't know what I'm looking at... you basically over-photoshopped a bunch of pictures that someone else took?

[Crucial]

Check this out XPHANTOMSOLX.... I dont know if you are familiar with the term photoshop. I would like to ask you to what does,"Bunch of over photoshopped pictures mean?"Yes someone else took the pictures you genius and I stated that before I posted the pictures. I also stated that they were not all defined with clarity due to the fact that , I was not the one that took the pictures. Also you must of skipped the portion that said I am making a digital portfolio. If I needed to take these pictures myself I wouldve done so but that isnt exactly the project. The project was to use other images and transform them into something unique. So the next time read a fuken thread before you post some half ass adolescent posts. And seriously, who really uses a signature that fuken big?

[K24cb7coupe]

wow someone is venting

[TRDwasiq]

Means I don't know what I'm looking at... you basically over-photoshopped a bunch of pictures that someone else took?

u have boobs so shut the fuck up

[SixSquared]

Check this out XPHANTOMSOLX.... I dont know if you are familiar with the term photoshop. I would like to ask you to what does,"Bunch of over photoshopped pictures mean?"Yes someone else took the pictures you genius and I stated that before I posted the pictures. I also stated that they were not all defined with clarity due to the fact that , I was not the one that took the pictures. Also you must of skipped the portion that said I am making a digital portfolio. If I needed to take these pictures myself I wouldve done so but that isnt exactly the project. The project was to use other images and transform them into something unique. So the next time read a fuken thread before you post some half ass adolescent posts. And seriously, who really uses a signature that fuken big?

I use sigs that big... and yeah I know nothing at all about photoshop... Not a damn thing... I don't know about rendering, design, adjusment levels.. nothing... I find it REALLY funny that you go there... And let me tell you... if THAT is what is in your digital portfolio.. good luck.. where are you wanting to go to school? Art Institute might accept that.. I'd be surprised if they do. I know that when I made the digital portion of my portfolio, I included stuff that didn't look like I got drunk one night and then pushed every button on my floating toolbar.. I thought of stuff that hadn't been done before, and had a field day. And yeah, Art Institute wanted me, but I didn't go.. why? I'm going somewhere better.. SCAD. If you know anything about art schools, then those 4 letters are paramount of one of the best schools in this country. And of course I know nothing about doing layouts using photoshop.. I only submitted a portfolio that got me not only a scholarship, but also the chance to go to Europe in January and help Kicker audio with their European product line release.. We are meeting with design execs at DesignWorks and Pininfarina, as well as building a show car for Kicker to take to shows around Europe.. and along with all of that goes presentations, 3D renderings, scale models.. you name it.

Yeah.. I know nothing at all about art.

Go home, learn a thing or two, and learn to take some fucking criticism. Because trust me.. when the head of design from Panoz sees your design and asks what you were thinking when you drew up your concept sketches, you will get THROWN THE FUCK OUT if you blow a gasket. Chill out. Your work is not that amazing and inventive. It's gonna take a LOT more than those OVER PHOTOSHOPPED pictures to impress me, and to impress anyone who would take the time to look at a digital portfolio. Chill out and come back when you have something interesting. Nothing you have in there is new techniques, and I can duplicate each and every one of those in about 5 minutes flat. It's not that hard to slide the contrast slider to an extreme, play with color balances until you get LUCKY, and call it art. It's not. It's an overphotoshopped picture. Go read up on digital art, photoshop technique, and basic art and design elements, then come back at me with something.

K

Thanks

BYE.

[Z33_kid]

lol

[NoPainT]

Sol...

[Crucial]

Check this out..I can give a fuck less about were the you go to school. I can give a goddamn about what the fuk you do in life and who and where you worked at. Its people like you that make this world go round and I thank that. If it wasnt for criticisim I wouldnt be doing this. I love competition and I love bitches that got to hate, there my fuel in life. I use the term "bitches" very firmly note that. Understand that I may have not been in the business as long as you but yet again, ya boy can give a fukless. Im still doing my thing and Im pretty sure you aint goin do shit to stop it. You go to the big fantastic SCAD. You got a full scholarship. Yet, you drive a del sol, all of your time is wasted.I bring no offense to other del sol riders out there. You seem very professional dont get me wrong. Your occupation must I add says part slinger. Must look extremely productive on a resume huh? But I understand your need to come and blast this thread up due to the fact that your, "Not a whore. Popular. K?". I can ramble with you all day and trust me I will. It just wont take too long in till I say some shit that just might make you wanna give up on life. But guess what I still wont give a fuk. I really dont give a fuk about whoever else got shit to pop off. But if YOU still aint get your point across you know were this thread is at.

[TRDwasiq]

my ***** is kinda rhymin

[accrdpusha]

lol Phanton sol Just leave... Your present is unwanted! Thanks have a blessed day


Foot

[SixSquared]

Check this out..I can give a fuck less about were the you go to school. I can give a goddamn about what the fuk you do in life and who and where you worked at. Its people like you that make this world go round and I thank that. If it wasnt for criticisim I wouldnt be doing this. I love competition and I love bitches that got to hate, there my fuel in life. I use the term "bitches" very firmly note that. Understand that I may have not been in the business as long as you but yet again, ya boy can give a fukless. Im still doing my thing and Im pretty sure you aint goin do shit to stop it. You go to the big fantastic SCAD. You got a full scholarship. Yet, you drive a del sol, all of your time is wasted.I bring no offense to other del sol riders out there. You seem very professional dont get me wrong. Your occupation must I add says part slinger. Must look extremely productive on a resume huh? But I understand your need to come and blast this thread up due to the fact that your, "Not a whore. Popular. K?". I can ramble with you all day and trust me I will. It just wont take too long in till I say some shit that just might make you wanna give up on life. But guess what I still wont give a fuk. I really dont give a fuk about whoever else got shit to pop off. But if YOU still aint get your point across you know were this thread is at.

1. Did I say ANYWHERE that you should stop what you're doing? No. I said you should EDUCATE yourself about it. You want respect in the art world, you gotta produce things that are innovative, new, and interesting. You're not gonna see a gallery full of shit that's been done already. I'm not trying to stop you.

2. I sold my del Sol a while ago... not that that makes shit for beans difference. One of the best designers in our department drives a kia.. I don't see what that has to do with anything.

3. You can ask just about anyone here.. when it comes to parts, I have more than enough.. That's why I put parts slinger on there.. If there is a random fuel filter banjo bolt that you need, I have it. Mainly because I part out cars pretty regularly after buying them from the junkyard. It's a way to make some extra cash and I get to meet a bunch of people on here.

4. I am EXTREMELY professional... but only when I'm dealing with people who are equally professional. When I was meeting with the design heads of Panoz last year, they DID ask what the hell I was thinking on a few of my sketches. Not that crudely, but the intent was the same. The difference between someone who sits at their house overphotoshopping photos and someone who is out presenting to design execs is how well the art is defended and presented. It's about convincing people of the art. I purposely asked you what I was looking at, aside from overphotoshopped pictures that other people took. Search through the threads in this forum and find the ones that are drawings or photoshops.. I ask people questions that will piss them off, I give people hell about incorrect color balances. I like to see how people react. Had you come off your fucking pedestal and not tried to start shit, then I wouldn't have had to slam you back, and here we are. If YOU had kept a cool head, like a PROFESSIONAL artist does, and explained your thought processes and design decisions, THEN you would have an ounce of respect from me, and you wouldn't look like an idiot right now. Hell with a good enough defense you may have even convinced me that your pieces are interesting and worth taking a second look at.

5. I know worlds more than you do about the subject of art. That will not change until you admit that you are not hot shit, humble down, and read. Art's not just about pretty pictures and paintings.. it's about an understanding of how it is that we came to our current art movement.. why digital art looks the way it does, how to manipulate colors successfully, how to balance pieces well and how to pay attention to design grids. That's what it is all about. When you understand the technical, you can produce the beautiful.

6. Quit trying to come after me personally. You're not going to phase me or upset me. You're a hotheaded punk bitch. That's all. Someone who thinks he knows more than he does, and thinks his work is amazing, probably because his friends *cough*TRDWasiq*cough* told him it was. But when someone who DOES know a thing or two about art and design busts your little bubble, you flip the fuck out. I have no respect for you or your work. And those ARE two seperate things.. I go to school with people who are complete douchebags.. but their work is amazing. And I go to school with people who are the nicest, most awesome people ever.. but their work really isn't that great. YOU, however.. are a combination of the two... you're a douchebag whose work isn't that great.

Sucks to be you.

[SixSquared]

Aww looka all the little n00bs trying to gang up on me.. so scary...

If Crucial was smart, he wouldn't be hating on me... he'd be asking me for advice. I give extremely good criticism, and am always happy to help people out.. so long as they are smart enough to listen

[soul]

so why did you make this thread? no one wants to see shit most people do when they first download Photoshop by accident. are you fucking 12? do something actually then come back and post this "digital portfolio" your working on, until then dont claim it as something your putting in a portfolio, my old high school teachers would laugh if i tried to turn in some bullshit like that, but your puttin it in your portfolio..........

[SixSquared]

^^ Finally.. someone with some sense.. +1

[soul]

^^ Finally.. someone with some sense.. +1

they say 1/4 people who post are retarded, no exception to this rule in this thread, crucial......

+1 for standin up against someone whos works reflect that of 8th grader with photoshop

[TRDwasiq]

Xphantomsolx is a whore not a Popular. K

[SixSquared]

Do you really think you're funny, TRD? I mean seriously... You and Crucial have GOT to be in 8th grade.. between his photoshop "skills" and your quick wit and amazing sense of humor, I just don't know what I will do with myself... what's a poor girl to do?

[soul]

Do you really think you're funny, TRD? I mean seriously... You and Crucial have GOT to be in 8th grade.. between his photoshop "skills" and your quick wit and amazing sense of humor, I just don't know what I will do with myself... what's a poor girl to do?

get a job..... sorry had to add to the 8th grade jokes in this thread

[SixSquared]

lol I'm working right now! Leave me alone. :P

[TRDwasiq]

Do you really think you're funny, TRD? I mean seriously... You and Crucial have GOT to be in 8th grade.. between his photoshop "skills" and your quick wit and amazing sense of humor, I just don't know what I will do with myself... what's a poor girl to do?

i dont even knw crucial i was just being a dick...... and nvm
have a nice day

[cactusEG]

i lik the pic of the last car

[Crucial]

Aite ima leave it at that... your criticism was taken in a unexpected manner. As for soul idk if your tryna be maury in this thread but no ones laughin... and for one I dont know TRDWasiq, he came by and just posted a msg...

[NoPainT]

Can't we all just get along...

[K24cb7coupe]

I use the term "bitches" very firmly note that.[/QUOTE]

[K24cb7coupe]

i lik the pic of the last car

yay someone like my car

[Crucial]

I have one last simple question. This is not a smart ass type of question but all I ask for is a simple reply. I understand that you said that you were criticizing my work. In the terms of,"Criticizing" how does, "ummmm.... ok?" supposively criticize my work. Remember I am just asking a question and not trying to blaze anyone up. But seriously how does that message that you posted represent criticism. Can you walk in my shoes for a minute? If you posted images and someone put that as a comment and as proud as you are to post your images up how would you react to that?

[SixSquared]

The crit came in the form of you're doing things that have been done before, and things that are pretty "cliche" in the art world. Especially on car art. Like I mentioned, I like to see how people react. Had you reacted the way you did right there (post #37), we could have saved all the bitching and moaning. And trust me.. I walk in your shoes allll the time. I wasn't joking when I said that I met with some of the design execs for Panoz and they asked me what the hell I was thinking (in a more polite manner) on some of my sketches that I was presenting to them. Each sketch that I had done were renderings that took about 12 - 20 hours a piece, and to me, they were brilliant. I had drawn them by hand, done color layer after color layer after color layer, then scanned them at 600dpi into photoshop, where I went through and made sure the color balance was perfect.. Literally, hours worth of work. I got so into the small details that I didn't notice little things that kill auto design. I unveiled one of them, and the first thing out of their mouths was "You have no side mirrors". I turned around and sure enough.. I had literally forgotten to put them on. They continued, and were kind of being smartasses, and were like "well.. would be very difficult to drive without sidemirrors" and all that. But, I held my tongue, and politely informed them that integrated into the front brake vents are cameras that act as side mirrors. BS explanation on the spot. 2 of the 5 were impressed and thought it was cool.. 3 of the 5 continued roasting me for it. It sucks to have your bubble busted, but it happens. Some people are nice about it, most aren't. It's part of being in the art world. Look for things that aren't commonly done as far as your art goes. Some of the most beautiful things in car design are in the details (see attached image). Sure I could have taken a picture of an NSX, but that's been done before. Trying to find an interesting angle, I was sitting on the ground next to the car and noticed that the "NSX" logo was stamped on the caliper, and the wheels happened to be turned so it framed it perfectly. So I snapped a photo of it. The picture itself was cool, but I wanted something a little more, so I decided to make it into a real piece of art instead of a photo. My thought process was "What do brakes and brake calipers do? They stop.. they give control.. they slow down..." I wanted to emphasize the feeling of being in control, which is why I did the big bold lines all around the NSX logo. I oversaturated the caliper, to make it pop. Once I was happy with the lines, I took a step back and thought some more. "How will I really make that NSX logo on the caliper pop out?" Well... red is pretty much a universal "STOP!" color.. red stop signs, red lights... so I colorized red all around it. I did it piece by piece, section by section. Was I sure I wanted to do all red like that? Should I only do a corner? I put a green filter over the NSX logo/caliper square.. red and green are complimentary colors.. the red background with the green filter made that center focal point pop like nobody's business. I stepped back and looked at it again. It looked plain still, but was there a beauty in that simplicity? I thought more about what brakes do. They stop you.. you halt.. stop as a command means decist.. quit... hmmmm... maybe I could throw some text on there and seal up my point. But first, let me lay a design grid over this.. so I printed out a rough copy and gridded it out.. where is there a logical, nice place for some text? Ah... right across the center... and now what text? I want something simple.. something modern, but not too modern. Not something that will detract from the focal point.. what if it looks like a typewriter did it? Let's try it out... looks good!

And that was just on a single piece. The execution of the piece took moments to do.. it's not a technically difficult piece. But the thought behind it took hours. And of course, as soon as I was done, I started naming off a thousand and one things I would change.. but I left it be.. and it's because of this piece that I won the 2006/2007 portfolio award. Out of a possible 100 points (500 point total score.. 5 pieces are submitted), I got a 97 out of 100. 3 judges from SCAD, 3 from outside sources (a museum, a graphic design firm, and someone who knows nothing about art).

People will rip apart art that you do. Opinions are like assholes.. everyone has them, but not everyone wants something to do with yours. Don't flip out if someone doesn't like your work or has something negative to say.. instead, listen to what they say, learn from it, and apply that knowledge to your next piece. And be prepared to defend your work. If someone looks at the accord, for example, and says "Well that looks dumb.. it's all white and I can't see the car", don't lose your shit. Instead, have a defense prepared... "I exagerrated the contrast because I wanted to emphasize the sleek body line of the car, as well as make the piece appear almost like a vector image. When the body line was the focal point of the car, the contrast was so high that the background was almost black, and it was drawing attention to the black negative space instead of the car itself. I experimented with a few different colors and effects before deciding on the white background. The stark white balances out the extremely deep, dark values that are found in the lower half, and so instead of looking dark and gloomy, the piece took on a fresh, modern, crisp feel. I also emphasized the grafitti in the background as a sort of medium value middle ground, so the piece took on a bit more depth. By brightening the background to an extreme, the body lines of the car are highlighted, and the piece takes on a logical value progression from a dark, intense focal point that moves to a grey, neutral middle ground, and the whole thing is lightened and set off by the extremely high value background." All of a sudden, the person who is saying "Well that looks dumb" has gained insight into your design process, and with a good enough defense, you have completely changed their opinion of the piece. It has gone from a piece that is "too white and I can't see anything" to a piece that has a logical progression and a sense of balance and weight.

Keep that in mind the next time someone says something about your work.

Oh yeah.. my brake caliper.. sorry it's small and you can't really see it.. the high res version is at home...

[Crucial]

I see...your statements are very true...

[SixSquared]

I'm helpful and always willing to help people.. I just can't stand when people get attitudes when they have room for improvement.