Requirements for Heaven?

[{X}Echo419]

Yall were both angling to try and say that morality does not have anything to do with religion.




Does your "fear" of facing a judge keep you from killing someone?

It's not always about "fear" that keeps people in a straight line. It may just be simple accountability and not necessarily "fear".





That's exactly my question: Where did those morals come from? Upbringing? Nature vs Nurture? Environment? Some built in gyroscope? Where? I am asking WHERE does the morality of an Atheist come from since morality is built on an individual belief system? Where does an Atheist draw their line in the sand at? IF Christians are supposed to use the Bible as a guide to their morality, where or what do Atheists use to guide themselves since they believe they don't have to be accountable to any supreme being?

it's not like someine woke up 1 day and said, "it's ok to do this but not to do that."
unless you lead your life by Hammurabi's Code(sp) your "morals" or our laws came from "religon"

[Hulud]

it's not like someine woke up 1 day and said, "it's ok to do this but not to do that."
unless you lead your life by Hammurabi's Code(sp) your "morals" or our laws came from "religon"

so what your saying is that back before organized religion it was OK to kill?

[{X}Echo419]

so what your saying is that back before organized religion it was OK to kill?

yeah, that's what I'm saying...