Where did you get your idea of heaven from? Heaven is a religious idea. How did you arrive at your personal belief?
Where did you get your idea of heaven from? Heaven is a religious idea. How did you arrive at your personal belief?
heaven isn't a religious ideas as it was a place for the afterlife.... you have to remember the term heaven is older then christianity itself. so its very easy for one to have an idea of an afterlife in heaven w/o being chrsitan.Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
i understand exactly where your coming from. i by no means claim anything but i do believe i live a more moral life than others of faith that i know.
And that is probably true, but let me ask you a question then (just to keep the debate going):
IF you don't believe in God; IF you don't believe in Heaven; Why not just act like a total heathen and do exactly whatever you like and don't worry about what's going to happen later? Is it some kind of built-in gyroscope that keeps you the majority of the time
This is just going towards the same lines of what I'm always saying: Isn't believing in God the surest bet out there? IF there is "no God", then no harm no foul, right? IF there is, then you will be glad you chose to believe. What is the downside then?
i've stated many times "no gods no masters, choose your heaven". i read that a long time ago and i completely agree. you hold the power in your hands to do what you want but you have a understanding of what is right/wrong. influenced by what is socially acceptable.And that is probably true, but let me ask you a question then (just to keep the debate going
IF you don't believe in God; IF you don't believe in Heaven; Why not just act like a total heathen and do exactly whatever you like and don't worry about what's going to happen later? Is it some kind of built-in gyroscope that keeps you the majority of the time
This is just going towards the same lines of what I'm always saying: Isn't believing in God the surest bet out there? IF there is "no God", then no harm no foul, right? IF there is, then you will be glad you chose to believe. What is the downside then?
you are made to feel that killing someone is wrong. could i walk right up and shoot someone in the face. yes. will i. no. why? b/c i've designed an image in my mind of the things that are right/wrong. this has nothing to do w/ faith but personal choice. i know if in life the wronged will reedem revenge on the wrong doers, in either physical/mental state. if i kill someone i will either go to jail and/or feel the guilt of taking ones life. cause/effect is the only thing that keeps non believers at bay w/ moral judgements.
I was raised Christian and went to church every weekend until I turned 11 or 12.
I arrived at this belief because its common ground with many religions (Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, etc). I see religion more as guidelines to live your life by but I havent found one that I truly believe so far.
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I understand totally. I was raised Catholic all my life until I was grown. Just about my entire family, except for my Jehova's witness Grandmother and an aunt and uncle that were Pentecostal, is Catholic. I found my own Church, although it's not too far left or right of the Catholic idealogy. I too felt the same things most people feel about the Catholic church for myself. That's why I looked until I found one that fit me and my family and we are comfortable attending.
One question though, it's obvious that you have read atleast some of your Bible at one point or another, right? What does your Bible say it takes to get into Heaven?
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