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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    Where is your proof that all humans are spiritual???

    as always, nobody can prove anything to anyone. The evidence is listed numerous times in these threads. Our greater connection to one another, research demonstrating a spiritual existence of people long deceased...if you want to look for evidence and you are serious there are TON of resources at your local bookstore, google, etc etc...but the evidence of a great human character that is not physical is plentiful to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sport_122 View Post
    as always, nobody can prove anything to anyone. The evidence is listed numerous times in these threads. Our greater connection to one another, research demonstrating a spiritual existence of people long deceased...if you want to look for evidence and you are serious there are TON of resources at your local bookstore, google, etc etc...but the evidence of a great human character that is not physical is plentiful to say the least.
    So you have none. Ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    So you have none. Ok.
    Because I know that you have read plenty of my post before, I will just leave this comment as it is...with all the stuff I have posted in these threads evidence is plentiful enough. It takes a man who is humble enough to say "I want to really look into this" to get off is butt and dig into it to see what it is really saying. I know you are more than capable of that.

    A man who is not even OPEN to changing his "beliefs" may as well join a cult. That is a slick slope to be on.
    for all you band-wagoneers this goes both ways. I have always said that if someone can provide good logical evidence that shows me that the resurrection of Christ did not happen and that transcendent things do not exist then I could recant my faith. But good luck on that because the very thing that I mention to you has be proven to me and the evidence is so great that my faith is strong and no other world view has successfully stood the test of time, and ages as that of the Judeo-Christian world view.
    "Their [the new atheists] treatment of the religious viewpoint is pathetic to the point of non-being. Richard Dawkins in The God Delusion would fail any introductory philosophy or religion course. Proudly he criticizes that whereof he knows nothing... I am indignant at the poor quality of the argumentation in Dawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, and all of the others in that group."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sport_122 View Post
    Because I know that you have read plenty of my post before, I will just leave this comment as it is...with all the stuff I have posted in these threads evidence is plentiful enough. It takes a man who is humble enough to say "I want to really look into this" to get off is butt and dig into it to see what it is really saying. I know you are more than capable of that.



    for all you band-wagoneers this goes both ways. I have always said that if someone can provide good logical evidence that shows me that the resurrection of Christ did not happen and that transcendent things do not exist then I could recant my faith. But good luck on that because the very thing that I mention to you has be proven to me and the evidence is so great that my faith is strong and no other world view has successfully stood the test of time, and ages as that of the Judeo-Christian world view.

    I for one am not a band-wagoner.. I come from a very very long line of jews.. cohens to be exact (which were the high priests back in the "olden days") and I dont believe in jesus as being the son of g-d or the messiah.. I believe the messiah hasnt come yet. I have plenty of proof of my beliefs.. and those in my family who fought and died for our beliefs. Just like the tattoo my great grandfather had branded on him against his will, and those of my family who died unable to escape. But I am VERY tolerant of others beliefs.. heck my boyfriend isnt jewish. I still love him and he still loves me.. I will never push my beliefs on him and he would never push his beliefs on me.
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