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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport1.3
    One word. Dinosaurs
    Yeah, i know - the bible doesn't say anything about dinosaurs but it doesn't say anything about Sport1.3 (Put your name here) either but your real and breathing..

    (I don't know why people base there hole faith or no faith on dinosaurs)

    Mentioned in love though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMEK18
    Yeah, i know - the bible doesn't say anything about dinosaurs but it doesn't say anything about Sport1.3 (Put your name here) either but your real and breathing..

    (I don't know why people base there hole faith or no faith on dinosaurs)

    Mentioned in love though!
    It's not that we're putting our faith into them, just that we should put them out there to show that the theory of evolution and the start of life did not come from Adam and Eve. But like Sport1.3 is real and breathing, thus making him real. Shouldn't we be able to see GOD doing the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kadabra
    It's not that we're putting our faith into them, just that we should put them out there to show that the theory of evolution and the start of life did not come from Adam and Eve. But like Sport1.3 is real and breathing, thus making him real. Shouldn't we be able to see GOD doing the same?
    WE DO see him doing the same.. We just happen to have different beliefs so your eyes are not seeing what my eyes are seeing...

    Its our faith in Jesus that opens our eyes to see what God is doing around us!!

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    I've never said I've literally seen Him... Just felt/experienced...

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    What's ironic is that when you show someone a Bible verse and THEY ARE HELL BENT (PUN INTENDED) ON WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE......no amount of logic and plain ole reading comprehension will ever convince them of anything other than what they already have ingrained in their head is the "truth".

    Kelly has clearly shown that Ran is no Bible scholar IMO. He said some very clear statements. Kelly came back and addressed EACH and EVERY one of them, not with HER words, but with the very words from the BIBLE that RAN swore "weren't there". What now? You want to still tip toe around the FACT that you were wrong when you said there was "no Hell"? Well, she gave you quite a few direct BIBLE verses that showed you were wrong as "HELL".....LOL. It clearly says "H-E-L-L" in each and every one of those verses. So I guess that proves to Ran that somehow it's "not in the Bible"????? I don't know about you, but not one single description of "HELL" is ever good, so I personally wouldn't want to ever purposely go there. Right or wrong?

    Hey, it also clearly says in the Bible that we should all "take up serpents". Right or wrong? So you people think that if you don't take that verse LITERALLY and "play" with snakes every Sunday during Church service then we are NOT being a good and Pius Christian????? Okie dokie.

    This is the funny thing about every single non-believer that I have ever encountered. They profess to be so smart and so forward thinking, yet they use THEIR INTERPRETATION of the Bible to support their belief......yet, when someone tells THEM that they INTERPRET that same Bible DIFFERENTLY which is why they believe what they believe......OMG, OMG......"YOU MUST NOT BE A TRUE CHRISTIAN..... "

    Until someone shows me a Theology PHD......your OPINION and INTERPRETATION of the Bible, it's contents, meanings, definitions, etc hold as much water as a leaky collander. How come it's "ok" for two people to read the same exact words, yet get something different out of it? Yet when two people read the Bible, there is suddenly only ONE true meaning and that ONE true meaning is only in the eye of the beholder????? How does that make sense? The entire world can evolve, but our thinking and interpretations can't????? Whatever. Keep thinking that. We'll one day see just who was right and who was wrong. If you think about it, Christians have ZERO to lose if they were "wrong". Why? Because if there is no God, NOTHING will happen when we die. If there is, WE will have something good waiting on us. What's the DOWN side again????? What's the DOWN side for YOU????? That's what YOU should be thinking about. Don't worry about Christians. They're well taken care of. Question is.......are YOU if you die today????? Worry about THAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    If you think about it, Christians have ZERO to lose if they were "wrong". Why? Because if there is no God, NOTHING will happen when we die. If there is, WE will have something good waiting on us. What's the DOWN side again????? What's the DOWN side for YOU????? That's what YOU should be thinking about. Don't worry about Christians. They're well taken care of. Question is.......are YOU if you die today????? Worry about THAT.
    Well, according the Christian Bible, I'll be given a second chance when the great tribulation comes. I'd love to be proven wrong at that point. So yeah, I should be okay. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    Well, according the Christian Bible, I'll be given a second chance when the great tribulation comes. I'd love to be proven wrong at that point. So yeah, I should be okay. Thanks.
    What if you're not ALIVE then?....... Big gamble, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    What if you're not ALIVE then?....... Big gamble, don't you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    Well, according the Christian Bible, I'll be given a second chance when the great tribulation comes. I'd love to be proven wrong at that point. So yeah, I should be okay. Thanks.


    yeah, but as kelly stated... the tribulation is no walk in the park... God filled... church service...

    you have to choose to believe in God, where there will be no proof/or even feeling of God... And Choosing to believe in God is certain death... I'm pretty sure you have to become a marder(spl?) to make it to heaven then.....

    i wouldn't bank on changing your beliefs during the tribulation man.... who knows when that'll be... and you're not promised a tomorrow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    What if you're not ALIVE then?....... Big gamble, don't you think?
    Not at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer
    yeah, but as kelly stated... the tribulation is no walk in the park... God filled... church service...

    you have to choose to believe in God, where there will be no proof/or even feeling of God... And Choosing to believe in God is certain death... I'm pretty sure you have to become a marder(spl?) to make it to heaven then.....

    i wouldn't bank on changing your beliefs during the tribulation man.... who knows when that'll be... and you're not promised a tomorrow...
    There's two ways that works, both in my favor.

    1) I'm alive for it. I see the biblical prophecies come true and I put 2+2 together. Hooray Jesus!

    2) I die before the tribulation. During the second coming of Christ, I am brought back to life and shown the truth. If I die, and come back to life but still don't believe then I deserve what I get.

    Also, I'm not going to Heaven. If anything, I'll be at the New Earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    There's two ways that works, both in my favor.

    1) I'm alive for it. I see the biblical prophecies come true and I put 2+2 together. Hooray Jesus!

    2) I die before the tribulation. During the second coming of Christ, I am brought back to life and shown the truth. If I die, and come back to life but still don't believe then I deserve what I get.

    Also, I'm not going to Heaven. If anything, I'll be at the New Earth.

    ... i don't remember anywhere it standing that the dead that did NOT believe in christ will rise again...

    i'm pretty sure during the second coming the only ones that rise from the grave were believers....

    i don't have scripture to back that up... so if you do to disprove me please let me read it... cause i don't think i ever have...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    We'll one day see just who was right and who was wrong. If you think about it, Christians have ZERO to lose if they were "wrong". Why? Because if there is no God, NOTHING will happen when we die. If there is, WE will have something good waiting on us. What's the DOWN side again????? What's the DOWN side for YOU????? That's what YOU should be thinking about. Don't worry about Christians. They're well taken care of. Question is.......are YOU if you die today????? Worry about THAT.
    I highly doubt that. They have it just as bad if not worse when you think about the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMEK18
    Yeah, i know - the bible doesn't say anything about dinosaurs
    30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

    Maybe???

    And this is really interesting:
    http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/bible/bible.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly
    30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

    Maybe???

    And this is really interesting:
    http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/bible/bible.htm
    Back then they had no clue that the Earth was round, so im sure he was just talking about the animals around a 100 mile radius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kadabra
    Back then they had no clue that the Earth was round, so im sure he was just talking about the animals around a 100 mile radius.
    Who? Moses?

    And even if he was, who is to say he wasn't talking about Dinosaurs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly
    Who? Moses?

    And even if he was, who is to say he wasn't talking about Dinosaurs?
    Because all of them weren't around to see them. The time it's been since Jesus was crucified til now hasn't even been a blink on the historical clock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kadabra
    Because all of them weren't around to see them. The time it's been since Jesus was crucified til now hasn't even been a blink on the historical clock.
    I don't get it... He may not have seen all of them, but that doesn't mean he didn't see a few Brachiosaurus' roaming around and related to them in this verse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly
    I don't get it... He may not have seen all of them, but that doesn't mean he didn't see a few Brachiosaurus' roaming around and related to them in this verse.
    Haha, are you kidding me?! If anything he might have seen a giraffe, no way in hell he would be able to see a "long neck." They went extinct near the jurassic period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly
    30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

    Maybe???

    And this is really interesting:
    http://www.genesispark.org/genpark/bible/bible.htm

    Nice, thats interesting! +2 The answers are always there - we just have to have the faith to look for them...
    We are always looking to open the bible and it say " JDMEK18" Don't go into Club Nikki's or you will surely die.... Its not that cut and dry - I have to have faith to read the scripture and understand that the Chapters (I don't like to call them Stories cause people don't believe in stories) and experiences people are going through - show the answers to our questions...

    Thanks again Kelly !!

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