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    Yes the country going to divide, but it's not going to because of Obama. It's going to be because of dumb attitudes like this

    Quote Originally Posted by LS2_KID

    If Obama becomes the President of the United States, he will not be my President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23
    Yes the country going to divide, but it's not going to because of Obama. It's going to be because of dumb attitudes like this
    really explain? So since I do not support Obama, I am making the country more vulnerable to divide? No sir, you are the one with the "dumb attitude". Do you support George Bush, cause if not remember you are the that is making the country divide even more.

    as for somebody with real input,

    Quote Originally Posted by blackshine007
    I would like to mention this, Obama is trying his best to ride the fine line between the races. So what if is former pastor has off the wall political views. That don't mean that everyone in the church shares the same views. What no one has mentioned when you listen to fox news is that his pastor was a former marine and has been through alot. The man has seen alot. Even though I too don't agree with what he believes politically, he like any other american, has his right to his own opinion and shouldn't no one else be blamed for it but him.

    What's killing me is that it's not Obama that's will break apart the country, but the media. Think about this, Obama addresses race in Pennsylvania and completely nails it. I thought the speach was perfect. Right to the point. The conservatives like Sean Hennedy, Mr. Limbaugh and people who don't need to be on radio like Al Sharpton are the ones who are breaking the country apart. The crap they're putting out there. For example, they know that they don't want Clinton in the office so Rush Limbaugh goes and tells his fan base to not vote for McCain (being that he had a huge lead over Huckabee anyways) but vote for Clinton so Obama won't make it to the primaries. The republicians have a bunch of tricks up there sleeves and if silently pulling the race card to keep Obama out is one of the things needed to do then they will do it. I'm not saying that McCain's camp is responsible for this (which it isn't) but just the aforementioned. I think ya'll should at least avoid Fox news because they're gonna mention some things that will naturally sway you towards the republican side.

    One final note, there has to be a sides change, meaning the republicans time is up. Whether or not Obama makes it, Democrats need to be in the house, mainly for the economy sake. McCain (IMO) will basicly take off where Dubya left off. McCain openly admits knowing anything about economics and will continue the war in Iraq and terrorist. I'll vote for Billary if that means getting the republicans out of office.
    Yes I agree that his speech was perfect and I also think that America needs to get over racism, like Obama said that will not happen now, generations are still alive that went through these pains. Also I agree that the media is hurting Obama badly, however if he becomes president, i can see him messing up real bad. He has no experience with international affairs and we need somebody with that experience because America relies on other countries a.k.a. China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2_KID


    Yes I agree that his speech was perfect and I also think that America needs to get over racism, like Obama said that will not happen now, generations are still alive that went through these pains. Also I agree that the media is hurting Obama badly, however if he becomes president, i can see him messing up real bad. He has no experience with international affairs and we need somebody with that experience because America relies on other countries a.k.a. China.
    Bill Clinton, J.F.K and even George W. Bush had no real experience either when they started their campaigns. McCain couldn't even distinguish Al Qaeda from Shiite while in their region, Obama was speaking about these groups at length back in 2002... Internationally I think Obama can do a lot of good for this country since he has a broad understanding due to his diverse upbringing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Bill Clinton, J.F.K and even George W. Bush had no real experience either when they started their campaigns. McCain couldn't even distinguish Al Qaeda from Shiite while in their region, Obama was speaking about these groups at length back in 2002... Internationally I think Obama can do a lot of good for this country since he has a broad understanding due to his diverse upbringing.
    In no way do i think think that McCain is the best person for the job, nor Obama or Clinton, however i hate to say this I am in a decision between Clinton and McCain. Hillary does have more experience with international affairs, but that does not mean she will do better with these affairs.

    Tony, I'm curious to your thoughts on what all Obama's wife has said about America and also Obama's "support" of America. Mainly about how he does not put his hand over his heart, does this bother you? I know Obama said "This is the USA not the USSR" but still how hard is it to just show this little peice of support?

    "During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. -- United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2_KID
    Tony, I'm curious to your thoughts on what all Obama's wife has said about America and also Obama's "support" of America. Mainly about how he does not put his hand over his heart, does this bother you? I know Obama said "This is the USA not the USSR" but still how hard is it to just show this little peice of support?

    "During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. -- United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171"
    In regard to Michelle Obama, rookie mistake and slip of the tongue. What she said was a part of her stump speech from the beginning, that for the first time in her adult life she is really proud of this country. Is this unpatriotic? Depends on who you ask, if she had this complete disdain for America I do not believe she would be in the position she is in now.. and frankly it is a big eye opener when you see people opening their minds to something that for a long time has been taboo.. a black president. Politically, it was not the right thing to say but when you look at the human being side of things you can understand where she was coming from.

    As for the hand over the heart: Barack explained that he was raised to hold his hand over his heart for the pledge, and at his side for the national anthem. Again, is this really unpatriotic? Everyone has their own thing when it comes to the national anthem, honestly who really cares? I could find plenty of corrupt politicians who put their hand over their heart and that makes them no more patriotic than Saddam Hussein.

    What are people afraid of, that Barack will get in office and let Al Qaeda come to the U.S to take over the white house? Put all white people in slavery? C'mon now.. lets be realistic about this. All the talk of Patriotism as it pertains to Barack has been borderline pathetic. The man graduated from Harvard with a chance to go to wall street to make big money but instead put his efforts toward Civil Liberties. I'd love to see how many "patriots" would make a decision like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    In regard to Michelle Obama, rookie mistake and slip of the tongue. What she said was a part of her stump speech from the beginning, that for the first time in her adult life she is really proud of this country. Is this unpatriotic? Depends on who you ask, if she had this complete disdain for America I do not believe she would be in the position she is in now.. and frankly it is a big eye opener when you see people opening their minds to something that for a long time has been taboo.. a black president. Politically, it was not the right thing to say but when you look at the human being side of things you can understand where she was coming from.

    As for the hand over the heart: Barack explained that he was raised to hold his hand over his heart for the pledge, and at his side for the national anthem. Again, is this really unpatriotic? Everyone has their own thing when it comes to the national anthem, honestly who really cares? I could find plenty of corrupt politicians who put their hand over their heart and that makes them no more patriotic than Saddam Hussein.

    What are people afraid of, that Barack will get in office and let Al Qaeda come to the U.S to take over the white house? Put all white people in slavery? C'mon now.. lets be realistic about this. All the talk of Patriotism as it pertains to Barack has been borderline pathetic. The man graduated from Harvard with a chance to go to wall street to make big money but instead put his efforts toward Civil Liberties. I'd love to see how many "patriots" would make a decision like that.
    LOL that actually made me laugh.

    I just see Obama dividing the nation, not only because of him but because of the people. None of the candidates seem like they are going to make a positive "change". However I did like your post about how we need to change, meaning not having a Clinton or a Bush in the White House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2_KID
    LOL that actually made me laugh.

    I just see Obama dividing the nation, not only because of him but because of the people. None of the candidates seem like they are going to make a positive "change". However I did like your post about how we need to change, meaning not having a Clinton or a Bush in the White House.
    Strangely, I see your point. Obama is indirectly devisive because of his race.. if you put the same man in white skin then this wouldn't even be an issue but people feel the need to tread lightly when it comes to him. Its dissapointing but true, anyone who believes in Barack is lying if they don't see this.. whether he likes it or not in this campaign he forces the issue of race to come up since every criticism has to be run through the race card scanner before it can be considered legit.

    With that said.. I still think he's the best option. Hillary wants to mandate healthcare and go after wages in doing so, McCain wants to stay in Iraq. I don't think Obama goes far enough on some issues but to me.. he's the best candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Bill Clinton, J.F.K and even George W. Bush had no real experience either when they started their campaigns. McCain couldn't even distinguish Al Qaeda from Shiite while in their region, Obama was speaking about these groups at length back in 2002... Internationally I think Obama can do a lot of good for this country since he has a broad understanding due to his diverse upbringing.


    Ever think Obama knows so much about Al Qaeda cause he is from a muslim background? Of all the info about the net, I believe he has muslim roots. Nothing against muslim people but muslim extremests are a larger factor in the war on terrorism. I agree that no nominee is the best the President, but we will see the out come. Change will definitely happen if Obama makes it into office, but I probably wont be for the better of America. Especially if M. Obama is just now "really" of this country. I think it is unpatriotic. And whats up with him not willing to wear the flag pin? Cause he is trying to change america's view on patriotism??Read:
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbon_crash
    Ever think Obama knows so much about Al Qaeda cause he is from a muslim background? Of all the info about the net, I believe he has muslim roots. Nothing against muslim people but muslim extremests are a larger factor in the war on terrorism.

    your point?



    and yes he does have muslim roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2_KID
    really explain? So since I do not support Obama, I am making the country more vulnerable to divide? No sir, you are the one with the "dumb attitude". Do you support George Bush, cause if not remember you are the that is making the country divide even more.

    Soooo childish "He said I got a dumb attitude, so I got to tell say it back to him"


    I don't even know why I'm explaining why your attitude is dumb, but here it is. You said you wouldn't support him from the jump if he became President. For what reason? He's not the president yet, so he hasn't fail us in anyway way. I could see if he was ****ing up as president to give you a reason not to support him, but you're already writing him off before he even has a chance to prove himself. How would you like it if you went for a job interview and you get decline before you open your mouth, or before you got a chance to show you're talents. It would be BS. So I say before disowning someone as your president, let them **** up before you disown them. As, for Bush, when he became president, I had no reason to dislike, but when he started ****ing up in office thats when I started to dislike him. Unlike you, you don't even wanna give a person a chance. That's why your attitude is dumb as hell and people like you are bring down this country.

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    If Obama is going to divide this country, who's going to unite it? Can anyone answer that? Because I really want to know who to support this November. This partisan bullcrap is beginning to be a little annoying on both sides.

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