6 reasons why god exist...

[DnBmama05]

At least the non believers don't go to other countries and try to convert people, far as well threads on the internet. Your statement is false.

I read this up until the comma and then it made absolutely no sense If you are going to quote something I posted please make it relevant to the quote. I didn't say anything about mission trips or going to other countries. I made a few statements in that one post and I really didn't see the one that could be false (not that it matters if you read as well as you type) I wasn't trying to prove anything to anyone I was just stating my personal opinion on the matter like everyone else has

[BlueHatch]

explain my 7 year old autistic cousin, my grandfather who was in good health dying on chrisatmas eve, and my best friend getting shot in the back of the head. if there is he is cruel

[TheSnail]

I read this up until the comma and then it made absolutely no sense If you are going to quote something I posted please make it relevant to the quote. I didn't say anything about mission trips or going to other countries. I made a few statements in that one post and I really didn't see the one that could be false (not that it matters if you read as well as you type) I wasn't trying to prove anything to anyone I was just stating my personal opinion on the matter like everyone else has

Im not arguing, you're simply too hardheaded to explain it to. Dont get me wrong, I want every thing to be nice and dandy once I die rather then shit just going black, but believing in that is less believable then Santa. But to push your buttons, last year I used the bible in the Red Roof as toilet paper even though I had toilet paper. It's not gonna come back on me, because there aint shit out there to come back on me for.

[b@d @pple]

unless you die of live failure....hahahah sorry thats not funny snail

[Jaimecbr900]

Im not arguing, you're simply too hardheaded to explain it to.

She's not the only hard headed person here, trust me.

Dont get me wrong, I want every thing to be nice and dandy once I die rather then shit just going black, but believing in that is less believable then Santa.

Can't have it both ways young man. You either believe or don't believe. You think there's an afterlife or you don't. If you do, then you by default have to believe in some kind of superior being. So if you don't, then you certainly aren't going to have everything "nice and dandy". Pick a side, but you can't have both.

But to push your buttons, last year I used the bible in the Red Roof as toilet paper even though I had toilet paper.

What purpose did that serve? You like a chapped behind? You like wiping with rough paper? What was the real purpose of doing such a thing?

It's not gonna come back on me, because there aint shit out there to come back on me for.

Spoken like someone who is concerned and therefore is justifying something to be able to sleep better at night. If you're truly not concerned about something that you honestly feel doesn't exist.....then why bother justifying it? Makes no sense, does it?

[Jaimecbr900]

explain my 7 year old autistic cousin, my grandfather who was in good health dying on chrisatmas eve, and my best friend getting shot in the back of the head. if there is he is cruel

You too have to decide one way or another. Either you believe there is a God, or you don't. Your post makes it seem ambigious.

Why does anyone die at all? Look at what just happened to the IA community with Val. Why did she have to die? Why did your Grandfather have to go? Why did my Grandmother, who was in the same situation as your Grandfather being healthy and happy then suddenly passing away, have to go? Why do children have to die? Why do parents have to bury their own children?

All of us here are left with more questions than answers. Answers is what everyone wants for closure. The question is: Where do you go to find those answers? Some people look inward and become bitter. Some people look outward and realize that there is a purpose to everything under the sun. While someone's death is very tragic and hurts for a long time, it does serve some kind of purpose. You may not find that purpose until you look in different places, but if you look eventually the purpose will fall into place. I'm still looking and searching for my Grandmother's purpose. She was an angel on earth as far as I was concerned. She was seemingly healthy. She certainly was happy. She had the support of her entire family. Why did she have to go while no-good murderers get to live?

Trust me, I've asked the same questions you have. I'm still trying to figure out that last piece of my Grandmother's puzzle. One day I'm certain that piece will fall into place and I will see the picture God wants ME to see. Until then, I will keep looking for that. I suggest you do the same. I understand the questions and the initial bitterness of losing a loved one unexpectedly. But if you don't channel that negative energy into something more constructive, you will find yourself being bitter for a long long time.

I hope you find the answers you're looking for, but I know one thing....there is a purpose to everything. Remember that.

[PhAtBoYMr2]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Jaimecbr900 again.

[Jaimecbr900]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Jaimecbr900 again.

YOU da man.....I'm just long winded.....

[mccoy1178]

JamieCbR900 - I just want to say "Thank You"

I am also a believer of JESUS. I lost my only son to SIDS and he was only 48days old. His checkup was great and healthy. I lost him wednesday before Thanksgiving 06. So how my wife and me get thru this. It was GOD, bc he was our Comforter. I cremated my son that weekend and scattered him to the ocean. Me and my wife didnt blame GOD or even be mad at him bc we knew my son lost had a purpose (to bring me and my wife back to GOD bc we werent living right. I thank GOD he has accepted me and my wife back even though we're living wrong) I still miss him everyday but I know if i live right, I will be with him for eternity.

People who know me on IA know how I am. We dont have to defend if GOD exists, we show it everyday thru our living. Everyone has a purpose in life, but if u lives thru you, ur purpose is to redeem as my souls back to GOD as my son has done for me and my wife. I hope I can be a light for everyone who is searching for GOD. Thanks for the space.

Mccoy

[Jaimecbr900]

JamieCbR900 - I just want to say "Thank You"

You're welcomed, although I'm not sure what you're thankful to me about.

I can't even begin to fathom what the pain of having one of your children die, so my heart goes out to you.

[JDMEK18]

Now this is nice!!!!

Dancing with God

When I meditated on the word GUIDANCE, I was drawn to"dance" at the end
of the word. I reflected upon how doing God's will is a lot like
dancing. When two people try to lead, nothing feels right. The movement
doesn't flow with the music, and everything is quite uncomfortable and
jerky. When one person realizes this and lets the other lead, both
bodies begin to flow with the music. One gives gentle cues, perhaps with
a nudge to the back or by pressing lightly in one direction or another.
It's as if two become one body, moving beautifully. The dance takes
surrender, willingness, and attentiveness from one person and gentle
guidance and skill from the other.

My eyes drew back to the word GUIDANCE. When I saw "G," I thought of
God, followed by "u" and "i." "God, "u" and "i" dance". God, you, and I
dance. This statement is what guidance means to me. As I lowered my
head, I became willing to trust that I would get guidance about my life.
Once again, I became willing to let God lead.


Thank you and have a blessed day,

[DnBmama05]

Im not arguing, you're simply too hardheaded to explain it to. Dont get me wrong, I want every thing to be nice and dandy once I die rather then shit just going black, but believing in that is less believable then Santa. But to push your buttons, last year I used the bible in the Red Roof as toilet paper even though I had toilet paper. It's not gonna come back on me, because there aint shit out there to come back on me for.

You're not pushing my buttons. Nice try though I'm not hard headed you're just close-minded. I'm sure God is just happy you picked a Bible up.

[TheSnail]

I'll leave yall alone then. lol

Hey, but if there turns out to be a God, I'll be yelling yalls names to sneak me in. At 2-3am, open the gate for me or something.

[DnBmama05]

alright... but only under one condition... that you leave the Bible you wiped your ass with behind

[TheSnail]

Deal. I only used a couple of chapters of it so it's still good. But I left it behind so I wont be bringing it with me.

[ahmonrah]

lol!! snail...your rediculous!!

[superfox1]

The debate on weather or not there is a God has been going on for years. Now which God do you consider the one true god? That is another debate. I believe I heard somewhere that there are over 7,000 different Gods worshiped in the world. Which one is the correct one? If you believe in one, and you turn out to be wrong, are you ready to face the punishment that God has to deliver? The Christian bible was "put together" by men...not a book handed down by God. The stories written in the bible were written by men. Take the Book of revelations for example...it was written by a man who was in exile...haven been persecuted by the Romans, wrote a story about when he and his people will one day come back and get ultimate revenge on the Romans. The book of revelations was so far out there, that it was almost not included in the final bible. What was included in the bible were the books and stories that most people at the time believed to be true. There were many books that were left out of the final bible though...Why were they left out?
Now, having said all that, I should point out that I am a christian. I believe in God I believe in one true God. I believe this because of very personal events in my life, but, will I blindly follow what a book says? NO! Will I accept that there is a God because it just makes sense? No! I do believe in the big bang theory...I believe the world is very old....science tells me this...it can be proven..but does that mean that God does or doesnt exist....I dont believe is makes a diference. I see science as fact...if it can be proven it is true.

That is all, thanks!

[BlueHatch]

You too have to decide one way or another. Either you believe there is a God, or you don't. Your post makes it seem ambigious.

Why does anyone die at all? Look at what just happened to the IA community with Val. Why did she have to die? Why did your Grandfather have to go? Why did my Grandmother, who was in the same situation as your Grandfather being healthy and happy then suddenly passing away, have to go? Why do children have to die? Why do parents have to bury their own children?

All of us here are left with more questions than answers. Answers is what everyone wants for closure. The question is: Where do you go to find those answers? Some people look inward and become bitter. Some people look outward and realize that there is a purpose to everything under the sun. While someone's death is very tragic and hurts for a long time, it does serve some kind of purpose. You may not find that purpose until you look in different places, but if you look eventually the purpose will fall into place. I'm still looking and searching for my Grandmother's purpose. She was an angel on earth as far as I was concerned. She was seemingly healthy. She certainly was happy. She had the support of her entire family. Why did she have to go while no-good murderers get to live?

Trust me, I've asked the same questions you have. I'm still trying to figure out that last piece of my Grandmother's puzzle. One day I'm certain that piece will fall into place and I will see the picture God wants ME to see. Until then, I will keep looking for that. I suggest you do the same. I understand the questions and the initial bitterness of losing a loved one unexpectedly. But if you don't channel that negative energy into something more constructive, you will find yourself being bitter for a long long time.

I hope you find the answers you're looking for, but I know one thing....there is a purpose to everything. Remember that.

right on +1 to you. and yes it is kind of "straddling the fence" statement, but who's to say ive made up my mind? as one of these people who dwells on shit damn near to extinction, i really find that its day to day. i like to think that everything happens for a reason jaime i really do but when sometimes when you tell yourself that over and over, it starts to sound like a cop-out almost. im sorry about your grandmother and your friend. they are peaceful. like my homeboy rico somewhere cold chillin

[quickdodge®]

The debate on weather or not

Whether. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

I can't even begin to fathom what the pain of having one of your children die, so my heart goes out to you.

Ditto. Just saw this post. Wow. Props to you for keeping on. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

You too have to decide one way or another. Either you believe there is a God, or you don't. Your post makes it seem ambigious.

That would be me, too, High-Mee. Later, QD.

[Jaimecbr900]

That would be me, too, High-Mee. Later, QD.

I know....

[Jaimecbr900]

BTW, I'm going to jump up on my stump for a minute because to be honest I'm really sick of hearing the same tired excuse.

The Bible was PHYSICALLY written by men. What's the point? Show me a single religious text that they use at ANY church on Sunday that isn't. EVERY single "Bible" for EVERY religion was written BY a man sometime. Right or wrong? If you say wrong, bring me the "Bible" you use and believe was written by your God then.

I'm sick and tired of hearing the same old tired rebuttal that the Christian Bible was "written" by men so it can't be factual, it must be what "man" says and not what God wants it to say. Well that's just absolutely retarded logic. Using that logic would mean that EVERY single book in existance was utterly incorrect since a printing company printed a bunch of copies and it wasn't personally handwritten by the original author therefore it suddenly didn't say what he/she originally wanted it to say....... . So does that mean that since Newton died hundreds of years ago his theories and "laws" suddenly seize to be true simply because it has been re-written or re-printed by someone else???

How's that make sense? It doesn't. I'm personally tired of hearing the same old line. Come up with something better. Use your brain. Read the Bible and point out what it is you don't agree with. I have far more respect for someone that has read the Bible and questions something, than someone who's never read it yet just points in the proximity of it and questions it's validity.

/off my stump. (For now)

[quickdodge®]

I'm sick and tired of hearing the same old tired rebuttal that the Christian Bible was "written" by men so it can't be factual, it must be what "man" says and not what God wants it to say.

I do agree that just because Man wrote the book it doesn't mean it isn't true to life. But, how does Man know what happened in the very beginning, Adam and Eve. How do they know all the details to put in the book? To me, I see the Bible as being kind of on the same lines as the old Davy and Goliath shows that came on TV years ago:



Just a bunch of stories compiled into one big book(like a Mother Goose book) to teach people morals and the way of God. That's part of what I don't understand. I don't know. At the same time that I get so confused about this stuff, I do find it fascinating as hail. Later, QD.

[Total_Blender]

1. The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today

Thats debateable. Scientists have the theory of the big bang pertty well figured out. You are looking at the world through the human perspective where things are "made" and "designed". When in nature, things just happen. The "sentience" of the design you speak of exists in the form of evolution and natural selection, as creatures and plants adapt to changing circumstances.

2. The human brain's complexity shows a higher intelligence behind it

Again, thats from a human perspective. The designs of many other tissues in nature are also quite complex, but the theory of a designer doesn't hold up. Living tissue is quite vulnerable to trauma and cannot survive long without oxygen and water. Where a "designed" thing such as a computer is much less vulnerable to trauma and can be re-started in the event of a power failure. Think of the evolution of brains this way: billions of years of trial and error using the natural substances that life evolved from.

3. "Chance" or "natural causes" are insufficient explanations

Humans have no concept of "not life". Science has not excluded the possibility that life on Earth arrived from somewhere else in the universe, such as a comet. Science also contends that much of Earth's water supply is from comets that collided with the planet billions of years ago.

4. To state with certainty that there is no God, a person has to ignore the passion of an enormously vast number of people who are convinced that there is a God

There are just as many (more actually) who believe in a different God than you do, and there are also many who believe in no God at all. Lots of people used to think the Earth was flat y'know.

5. We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him

God has never spoken to or pursued me directly. I always hear about him when people talk about him, and when the Jehovah's witnesses show up t my door. God has never spoken to me face to face if you get my drift.

6. Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God pursuing us

When Jesus shows up in the flesh and makes my order of Fish N' Chips feed a multitude, I'll believe with you. BTW theres a hungry multitude in Darfur and I bet they like fish.

[jskylinesx]

Atheist!!!


Riddle me this...

(keep in mind, i'm just throwing this one up in the air, and i'm really looking for an answer)

If Adam and Eve were the only two people in the world whom were created by the almighty GOD himself, then how did they procreate? Im not looking for a explaination on how they did it physically, but weren't they technically kin. I mean, God created Adam and then he created Eve form Adam's rib...

A more important question is would it be considered incest if they had offspring??? If not in the case of Adam and Eve, what about their children??? it says in the bible that EVERYONE is a decendent of Adam and Eve, so somewhere along the line someone must have had sex with thier sister, right???

Just a little question for the believers................

Whether or not you may believe in evolution, God or any form of higher power, or nothing at all... everything came from somewhere, right? Whether or not you believe it was God who created us through Adam and Eve, we all came from the same origin. So Adam and Eve were brother and sister, and they had children, their children then had children, and so on. Even if you believe in evolution, there had to have been the first few people who were created. Just for those who oppose this argument, lets say 1 million people were created. Well, they still had to be created from the same place or matter to just "appear" out of their previous non-existence. Whether you believe it was Adam and Eve who created us or people just started popping up out of nowhere from little pieces of matter starting to evolve... if you think about it, everytime you have sex you are sleeping with a very distant relative. And we can still create children and mass produce with these distant relatives. Why couldn't they do it back then in the beginning of it all? Call it incest, call it what you will. Two completely different people didn't form from two completely different places and just evolve, so if you believe in evolution or you are an atheist (whatever it is that you believe in your opposition to God), everytime you have sex you are fucking your very distant sister.

[Total_Blender]

so if you believe in evolution or you are an atheist (whatever it is that you believe in your opposition to God), everytime you have sex you are fucking your very distant sister.

Inbreeding is actually a part of the speciation process. A population of a certain type of animal becomes isolated from the rest, and the gene pool narrows, evolution is speeded up because inbreeding allows mutations and such. Crazy bit its true.

Think about it... monkeys get down out of the trees, and start moving on the ground. The monkeys that are coming down out of the trees form a big monkey import club and bring their hoochie-mama monkeys with them. Now out of these monkeys, the ones who can walk on 2 legs can cover the most ground and win races. They start having secret gtg's far away from the trees to get away from the ricer monkeys who aren't fast and just get in the way.

Now these monkeys don't want to go back into the trees because they have so much fun racing on the ground. The hook up with their hoochies and raise their monkey kids on the ground. They learn to eat meat instead of banannas.... Etc etc