A car carrier arrived at work today (BMW DRIVERS VERSUS IA...DRAMA FTW!)

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Originally Posted by kendogg

Simple. Most of them build the cars to the rule book. A few don't. A few are faster. A few aren't legal. A few don't play by the rules, and use the series simply for product testing and development. Then penalties get put on the entire brand. How is that fair in the end?

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well obviously your saying that Tuner can't build a car to series rules thats why they are penalized... hello you two are still crying about penalizing bmw when they are running 3.0L motors vs. motors as small as 1.8L... there are restrictions for reasons. its like a give v8 mustang owner racing a sohc civic and bragging how he won :screwy: hello if you win at the special olympics your still retarded. :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by BOOSTEDmk3

2006 ZO6 > 2006 BMW.........

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Did they make the Z06 in the brand new body style in '06? I thoguht that was the old body style, and the new '07 was the first year of the Z06? If it's the C5, well, lol, sorry, I bet the M5 would beat it. Has a higher top speed too, 207 mph FTW!!

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Originally Posted by kendogg

I'd buy a porsche in a heartbeat. Never ever dis'd porsche. But an Audi - well, thats a whole 'nother story. I wounld't touch one with a 10 foot pole personally. Just because they're german doens't mean I'd automatically buy it.

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last time i checked Stasis has a guy in the top 3 & bmw was 12 and TDI power wins Lemans :lmfao:

0000 = winning

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Originally Posted by admin

thats i checked Stasis has a guy in the top 3 and TDI power wins Lemans :lmfao:

0000 = winning

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English motherfucker, do you speaketh it?? :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by kendogg

That last fact may be true, but since when does a Lexus, Infinity, or even an Audi stack up to a BMW or Merc in the luxury category? AFAIK, they are the 'leaders' of luxury, refinement, and technology, where's the others are simply the 'followers'. Audi's are known for a quality interior, and the S-series cars. Thats pretty much about it. Other than that, I'd NEVER own ANYTHING from the VW/Audi company.Are you seriously going to sit there and tell me that Infinity came up with their M model cars to NOT compete with the BMW M cars? Come on, give me a f'ing break man. Same with Lexus and the IS300, etc. Follow the leader man, thats what it boils down to. They're trying to follow in BMW's and Merc's footsteps, and ya know what? I don't think I've EVER seen a comaprable car from ANY of those so called 'luxury' company's that can compete on the same level with an equal car from BMW or Mercedes. The IS300 is beaten by the 3 series EVERY SINGLE TIME in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY. Get a grip dude. Your POS Infinity isn't THAT special man. I sure as hell wouldn't be busting my nut over one, let alone be caught dead owning one. Whats that pos cost, anyways? I bet the germans make something comparable or better for the price.

I talked to a guy who bought a new 330ci because, more than anything, the G35 dind't handle nearly as well, or stop anywhere near as well as the BMW. Kinda tells ya somethin there I think.

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Lexus has been the best selling luxury brand in America the past 6 years going on 7. The IS 350 is the fastest car in class until the 335 sedan with turbos debuted. The GS 400 was the fastest automatic sedan in the world until an AMG E55 came out.
Lexus is the 4th best selling luxury brand in the world behind BMW/Audi/Benz.

Infiniti and Acura have had much less success so you can't really bunch all Japanese luxury brands together.

Lexus has the worlds first luxury hybrids in the RX 400h, GS 450h and 2007 LS 600h.

Not sure how you came with the conclusion, Lexus is not true luxury.

its obvious they dont get it paul

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Originally Posted by admin

i'd take jaimes GROCERY GETTER over a m3... remember the viper coming back from savannah? :lmfao:

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Thank you sir. :goodjob:

Funny thing is that there are lots of people that STILL don't believe that one.....like the commercial...."Running a Viper and beating it WITH witnesses.....PRICELESS!!!!...." ;)

This thread is actually very entertaining. :goodjob:

Ironic how the BMW supremacy suddenly subsided......wonder why that is??? :thinking: ;)

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Originally Posted by kendogg

Did they make the Z06 in the brand new body style in '06? I thoguht that was the old body style, and the new '07 was the first year of the Z06? If it's the C5, well, lol, sorry, I bet the M5 would beat it. Has a higher top speed too, 207 mph FTW!!

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Z06 is an all out sports car, there is now BMW equivilent. M6, a 4 seater, would come closest but its HUGE in comparison and over 800lbs heavier. V-10 with 507hp vs V-8 with 505hp.....

Oh yeah, when you all say Japanese car owners are stupid, what exactly do you mean by that? I would assume it's not intelligence you speak of. And car wise, I love my car, it drives smoothly, it's reliable, fast, and inexpensive. So where are you BMW owners going with this? All you have going for you is yours is more expensive... but is that necessarily a better thing? Oh and if you give me the "women like bmws more than any other make" BS, I will literally walk up and laugh in your face if you need your car to pick up women.

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Thank you sir. :goodjob:

Funny thing is that there are lots of people that STILL don't believe that one.....like the commercial...."Running a Viper and beating it WITH witnesses.....PRICELESS!!!!...." ;)

This thread is actually very entertaining. :goodjob:

Ironic how the BMW supremacy suddenly subsided......wonder why that is??? :thinking: ;)

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Because we actually have jobs to do during the day?

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Originally Posted by Fast Shadow

You need all of your friends around to when one person tells you your car looks gay when it has a giant pink banner on the windshield? :lmao: STis don't have giant pink banners on their windshields, let's stick to the subject. STis with the little pink STi logos look cool, it's a tradition. Giant pink windshield graphics do not. Ever. On any car.

You walk E46 M3s? LIRL, not unless you have an AA turbo or blower.

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Reading is not your friend, I said on the track at Road Atlanta. learn to read.

And to the GS430... some bonehead on 400 in a white one about a month ago, me and a Dinan 540 were playing with each other and this moron wanted to get in on the action... as the 540 slowly pulled away from me, the 430 was left behind pondering where we went...


As I said before, end of thread, its pointless neither one of us will back down

Paul quit argueing about speed world challenge, how many SWC races have you watched this season? Last I talked to you, you barely had time to watch it and wish you ahd more time to watch it, oh yah, in July I passed two Elise's at road atlanta...

/End of thread

Give it up guys, Holy shit, tell us our pussy hurts but look at all of you continueing to complain and whine etc etc etc

I dont need my whole car club to be there, come down there(taco mac on windward, every saturday at 10) and tell me to my face! Many STI upgrades are pink you stupid FUCK! I have seen STIs with Pink wheels you STUPID FUCK, what part of the reading did u not undersand? the windshield banner, It was a "hazing" of sorts, for HUMOR. Grow up dude!

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Thank you sir. :goodjob:

Funny thing is that there are lots of people that STILL don't believe that one.....like the commercial...."Running a Viper and beating it WITH witnesses.....PRICELESS!!!!...." ;)

This thread is actually very entertaining. :goodjob:

Ironic how the BMW supremacy suddenly subsided......wonder why that is??? :thinking: ;)

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Awesome, there is a 10K total value Porsche 944 in chicago, my buddy owns it, we walked a viper too and it prolly is 1/5 the value of your Lex. What is your point?

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Originally Posted by Mr. 2JZKIDD

its obvious they dont get it paul

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ya its too hard to understand that running a 3.0L bmw vs. cars w/ 1.8L motors that may be a bit of advantage there...

you know what i think Mainstream + IA needs to build a road racing car just to shut some M3 owners up... what you think?

Outtie guys peace

Need to focus on work.

Like Kenny said, Jobs M-F during the day.

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Thank you sir. :goodjob:

Funny thing is that there are lots of people that STILL don't believe that one.....like the commercial...."Running a Viper and beating it WITH witnesses.....PRICELESS!!!!...." ;)

This thread is actually very entertaining. :goodjob:

Ironic how the BMW supremacy suddenly subsided......wonder why that is??? :thinking: ;)

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dude there was atleast 3 witnesses for that shit :lmao:

definately one of the best road racing nights i've been on

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Originally Posted by admin

ya its too hard to understand that running a 3.0L bmw vs. cars w/ 1.8L motors that may be a bit of advantage there...

you know what i think Mainstream + IA needs to build a road racing car just to shut some M3 owners up... what you think?

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Do it, cause I invited multiple IA members to track days and for some reason they dont show up?

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Originally Posted by DinanM3atl

Reading is not your friend, I said on the track at Road Atlanta. learn to read.

And to the GS430... some bonehead on 400 in a white one about a month ago, me and a Dinan 540 were playing with each other and this moron wanted to get in on the action... as the 540 slowly pulled away from me, the 430 was left behind pondering where we went...


As I said before, end of thread, its pointless neither one of us will back down

Paul quit argueing about speed world challenge, how many SWC races have you watched this season? Last I talked to you, you barely had time to watch it and wish you ahd more time to watch it, oh yah, in July I passed two Elise's at road atlanta...

/End of thread

Give it up guys, Holy shit, tell us our pussy hurts but look at all of you continueing to complain and whine etc etc etc

I dont need my whole car club to be there, come down there(taco mac on windward, every saturday at 10) and tell me to my face! Many STI upgrades are pink you stupid FUCK! I have seen STIs with Pink wheels you STUPID FUCK, what part of the reading did u not undersand? the windshield banner, It was a "hazing" of sorts, for HUMOR. Grow up dude!

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I have a GS 430, I have beaten 540s. I had a GS 400, I've beaten 540s. I have gotten beaten in my GS 400 by a M5 and a Dinan 5 series. Guess what? I SHOULD, to get the Dinan badge, you have to buy the stages. You don't just buy the badge.

I am sure u knew that being its your screename and all.

540 and GS 400/430 are very evenly matched that its a drivers race and most time who got the better start (traction). We are talking about 2 cars with identical times.

Stock handling wise 540>GS 430, I've driven both and its clear. Now modded GS with sways/stb/lcb >540 stock, its very clear.

Clearly you just have BIAS against the car, no EXPERIENCE with them.

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Originally Posted by admin

ya its too hard to understand that running a 3.0L bmw vs. cars w/ 1.8L motors that may be a bit of advantage there...

you know what i think Mainstream + IA needs to build a road racing car just to shut some M3 owners up... what you think?

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oh im down, charles used to wear people out in his HYUNDAI EL OH EL

we have a 300whp miata that is pretty evil at SCCA an Auto-X events.

let me know, i have endless amounts of shells :) :) :)

MSPi/IA vs EVERY BMW OWNER ON IA (thats an asshat)

jk BMW guys

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Originally Posted by admin

ya its too hard to understand that running a 3.0L bmw vs. cars w/ 1.8L motors that may be a bit of advantage there...

you know what i think Mainstream + IA needs to build a road racing car just to shut some M3 owners up... what you think?

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Go for it. It has to be a jap car, though, since thats wht you all tout as high and mighty. Let em know when you can shake Thomas's E30 from your rearview mirror, or your windshield, going thru the S's. Or any one of the E36 M3's that will be tehre. As McCoy said, lets do a track challenge.

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I win again for size of thread :)

Atleast we started a fun debate.

Have fun with it guys! This time for real. No more coming back, I leave kenny to duel with you guys!

Till next time(we all know there will be)

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Originally Posted by kendogg

Because we actually have jobs to do during the day?

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If that is so, then why are you in here now? Lose your job? Work odd hours???? :jerkit:

You and your friend thought you could stir up crap again in this "ricer" board full of people with APC stickers and fart cans and noone could kill your BS talk with facts. You wanted facts, you got them. Problem is that you didn't like them, so now all of a sudden both of you are back peddaling so fast you're tripping all over yourselves doing it.

Japanese car owners are stupid, right? What's that make YOU when they put YOU in your place????? ;)

Glad I could come here and drop off some FACTS. Hopefully the people viewing will check them out, instead the bias and off-base claims in this thread.......

People need to compare stock to stock, when you compare modded to modded and used to used to new, it can get very blurry.

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Originally Posted by DinanM3atl

Paul quit argueing about speed world challenge, how many SWC races have you watched this season? Last I talked to you, you barely had time to watch it and wish you ahd more time to watch it, oh yah, in July I passed two Elise's at road atlanta...

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bahhh there is not way in hell your car will beat an ELISE on the track; you may have passed 2 dumbshits that can't drive but your car isn't even in the same class. :lmfao:

if i need to post further track times for BMW vs. LOTUS or any other make for that matter i will b/c they are on the boards i posted them a while back.

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Originally Posted by kendogg

English motherfucker, do you speaketh it?? :goodjob:

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not sure what u don't understand man...:thinking:

stasis tunes and races audi's, paul was referring to the fact that they have a driver of an a4 in the top 3.

tdi = audi = r8 which has been winning lemans races like they owned the shits

and 0000 = winning ---> audi = winning

is that english enough or should the AZN keep interpreting it for u? :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

If that is so, then why are you in here now? Lose your job? Work odd hours???? :jerkit:

You and your friend thought you could stir up crap again in this "ricer" board full of people with APC stickers and fart cans and noone could kill your BS talk with facts. You wanted facts, you got them. Problem is that you didn't like them, so now all of a sudden both of you are back peddaling so fast you're tripping all over yourselves doing it.

Japanese car owners are stupid, right? What's that make YOU when they put YOU in your place????? ;)

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Like I said Jaime, we can talk about this in person need be.

I know more about BMW than they do...I bet they didn't know their got damn roundel has nothing to do with cars, its a PROPELLER image, i.e from AIRPLANES.
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-19...-red-fa-lr.jpg

Bet he didn't know the Isetta, i.e the URKEL car is a BMW.....

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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

I have a GS 430, I have beaten 540s. I had a GS 400, I've beaten 540s. I have gotten beaten in my GS 400 by a M5 and a Dinan 5 series. Guess what? I SHOULD, to get the Dinan badge, you have to buy the stages. You don't just buy the badge.

I am sure u knew that being its your screename and all.

540 and GS 400/430 are very evenly matched that its a drivers race and most time who got the better start (traction). We are talking about 2 cars with identical times.

Stock handling wise 540>GS 430, I've driven both and its clear. Now modded GS with sways/stb/lcb >540 stock, its very clear.

Clearly you just have BIAS against the car, no EXPERIENCE with them.

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It took all those mods for you to out-handle a STOCK 540i, WOWZORS!!! Good try. Apples to ranges anybody? The E39 540i STOCK is a monster. Wanna play with a real nice Dinan 540? Check out FAST5 on bimmerforums, he's local ATL area.

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Originally Posted by shagwAg3n

not sure what u don't understand man...:thinking:

stasis tunes and races audi's, paul was referring to the fact that they have a driver of an a4 in the top 3.

tdi = audi = r8 which has been winning lemans races like they owned the shits

and 0000 = winning ---> audi = winning

is that english enough or should the AZN keep interpreting it for u? :goodjob:

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+25 my AZN friend

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Originally Posted by shagwAg3n

not sure what u don't understand man...:thinking:

stasis tunes and races audi's, paul was referring to the fact that they have a driver of an a4 in the top 3.

tdi = audi = r8 which has been winning lemans races like they owned the shits

and 0000 = winning ---> audi = winning

is that english enough or should the AZN keep interpreting it for u? :goodjob:

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Nothing can come close to the r8 tdi! And its a diesal!!! Jaime and I were at RoadAtlanta for Petit Lemans and you can't even hear the car coming!! No car was close to it.

A redition of that engine is now in the VW Toureg, a V-10 diesal!

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Originally Posted by kendogg

It took all those mods for you to out-handle a STOCK 540i, WOWZORS!!! Good try. Apples to ranges anybody? The E39 540i STOCK is a monster. Wanna play with a real nice Dinan 540? Check out FAST5 on bimmerforums, he's local ATL area.

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Apples to ranges? :???: Is that southern for oranges?

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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

Glad I could come here and drop off some FACTS. Hopefully the people viewing will check them out, instead the bias and off-base claims in this thread.......

People need to compare stock to stock, when you compare modded to modded and used to used to new, it can get very blurry.

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Wait, but you justc omaperd moded to stock? I smell hypocrit?

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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

Like I said Jaime, we can talk about this in person need be.

I know more about BMW than they do...I bet they didn't know their got damn roundel has nothing to do with cars, its a PROPELLER image, i.e from AIRPLANES.
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-19...-red-fa-lr.jpg

Bet he didn't know the Isetta, i.e the URKEL car is a BMW.....

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Reading comprehension isn't your friend is it? This was covered about 3-6 pages back. The isetta, BTW, was actually built by an italian company FOR BMW, because during WWII, most of BMW's manufacturing capacity was destroyed.

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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

Nothing can come close to the r8 tdi! And its a diesal!!! Jaime and I were at RoadAtlanta for Petit Lemans and you can't even hear the car coming!! No car was close to it.

A redition of that engine is now in the VW Toureg, a V-10 diesal!

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yes sir that V10 TDI toureg has been here for a while in low production and it will walk many many cars... i need to drag up the TDI Toureg vs. 500+whp FD thread.

R8 are amazing you should check out hte R8 vs. Fighter jet :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by kendogg

It took all those mods for you to out-handle a STOCK 540i, WOWZORS!!! Good try. Apples to ranges anybody? The E39 540i STOCK is a monster. Wanna play with a real nice Dinan 540? Check out FAST5 on bimmerforums, he's local ATL area.

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Kiddo, I said that. I am man enough and knowledgeable to know stock 540s and 330s and the new 335 and your E36 M3 is no joke handling stock.

Kudos to you and BMW, they make some great handling sedans.

You said a Dinan 5 beat a stock GS 400, so I brought up my modded GS comparison to show that a modded Lexus can be no joke as well.

We have had meets with the bimmerforums crowd, great bunch of people. I know meeting them, not all BMW owners are shit talking pricks with no clue or daddy bought their car. I know most are car nuts and great people..

That thread was awesome

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Originally Posted by kendogg

Reading comprehension isn't your friend is it? This was covered about 3-6 pages back. The isetta, BTW, was actually built by an italian company FOR BMW, because during WWII, most of BMW's manufacturing capacity was destroyed.

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Actually I was reading a bunch of bullshit 3-6 pages back and had to come here and lay some FACTS down, since a couple pro BMW members were spouting BMW> everthing antics...

I bet Chris Bangle is a top 8 friend of yours on myspace....

Big Ballers STI vs YOUR BMW?

im sure he wuold be down to do it

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Originally Posted by shagwAg3n

not sure what u don't understand man...:thinking:

stasis tunes and races audi's, paul was referring to the fact that they have a driver of an a4 in the top 3.

tdi = audi = r8 which has been winning lemans races like they owned the shits

and 0000 = winning ---> audi = winning

is that english enough or should the AZN keep interpreting it for u? :goodjob:

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Umm, yeah, I try to ignore the VW/Audi crowd for the most part, so, yeah, I didn't know statis is. Sorry, I'm ignorant :unsure:

i love how they come to the IA forums and tell us how proper their forums are, and that they don't name call or they get a time out. HA

IA drama, and name calling FTW! :goodjob: :taun: :yes: :bump: :ninja:

Stock for stock.

Why not Audi RS4 vs. e46 M3?