ok reading through this entire thing and hearing mostly ruiner and hektik debate, i'll have to say that my first instinct was to say the plane won't take off. while i understand that the wheels are free spinning, i still believe that the jet engines are what causes the wheels to spin at any speed (which is then matched by the treadmill), therefore causing the plane to stay in the same place.

however, after reading through ruiner's further explanation, i came to think that maybe he is right. yet the only way i'd agree with that is if somehow, the wheel speed does not match the treadmill speed. by that i mean the jet engines can propel it enough to where the wheels will outspin the treadmill, thereby giving it forward movement and lift and all that. but then again, this doesn't really agree with ruiner's original supposition.

after reading interlude's post just now, i'm back to thinking that this plane will not take off......either way though, thanks for making me think like this, it's been a while