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    Quote Originally Posted by vr6_girl
    ITS SIMPLE...He said the wrong thing that night...Anywho who steps up should know how to defend their self...IF NOT thats their fault...
    Was the guy that hit/kicked the other person arrested? If so, then obviously "talking shit" doesn't deserve an ass beating in the eyes of the law (in this case at least). Even worse, if he seriously/permanently injured that kid, he may face SERIOUS civil suit action against him. He could be fucked for life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner
    Was the guy that hit/kicked the other person arrested? If so, then obviously "talking shit" doesn't deserve an ass beating in the eyes of the law (in this case at least). Even worse, if he seriously/permanently injured that kid, he may face SERIOUS civil suit action against him. He could be fucked for life.

    Rule of thumb: You can punch someone and feel good. However, if you really want to hurt someone, hit them in their wallet.
    NO... And I'm sure he will not go to jail...To many factors and unless there were last names given...If they have his name then the Guy must press charges...
    And also try to make a case....REMEMBER...A live could have been taken when the Guy Droped the Bike....DON"T FORGET THAT NOW....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vr6_girl
    NO... And I'm sure he will not go to jail...To many factors and unless there were last names given...If they have his name then the Guy must press charges...
    And also try to make a case....REMEMBER...A live could have been taken when the Guy Droped the Bike....DON"T FORGET THAT NOW....
    WOW! How wrong this whole post is. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch®
    WOW! How wrong this whole post is. Later, QD.
    Extremely...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vr6_girl
    NO... And I'm sure he will not go to jail...To many factors and unless there were last names given...If they have his name then the Guy must press charges...
    And also try to make a case....REMEMBER...A live could have been taken when the Guy Droped the Bike....DON"T FORGET THAT NOW....

    judge judy in the hizzouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vr6_girl
    NO... And I'm sure he will not go to jail...To many factors and unless there were last names given...If they have his name then the Guy must press charges...
    And also try to make a case....REMEMBER...A live could have been taken when the Guy Droped the Bike....DON"T FORGET THAT NOW....
    Let me first just say that I am not against you in any way, shape, or form. I just want to inform you of what could happen. In terms of what the law may see, let me make a few corrections...

    That's now how the law works. He doesn't even have to press criminal charges. He can take them to Civil Court and rape him for pain/suffering/injury/etc. Just because he doesn't have criminal charges against him doesn't mean that he can't be found guilty in a civil case. Proof of this? OJ Simpson. Found innocent of the crminal charges, but he was found guilty of the civil charges and lost all of his money. There were MANY witnesses at the scene of this fight. Proving negligence would not be too difficult.

    If someone came up and hit me from behind like that (ie, sucker punched) and THEN stomped me in the head, they would be doing their best to live on welfare if I was seriously injured.

    Don't be so naive to believe that someone can't have charges brought against them days later. The Statute of Limitations is far from over for this case. It's rather easy to make a case in the eyes of the law: If someone is no longer a threat and you pursue them, especially from behind, then YOU are the aggressor (the guy(s) that went after the person who was walking away). The law does not look favorably upon aggressors in situations such as this (assuming what I have read is accurate).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner
    Don't be so naive to believe that someone can't have charges brought against them days later. The Statute of Limitations is far from over for this case. It's rather easy to make a case in the eyes of the law: If someone is no longer a threat and you pursue them, especially from behind, then YOU are the aggressor (the guy(s) that went after the person who was walking away). The law does not look favorably upon aggressors in situations such as this (assuming what I have read is accurate).

    I believe since it was "aggravated battery" by 3 counts..... time of 2 years to make a formal charge in criminal court. Also the guy does not have to "press charges". Being a felony, with as many witnesses present, and the evidence of the damages caused is plenty for the state to bring charges, themseleves. Even if they did not win a "strong" civil suit will have attorney's jockeying to get the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner
    Let me first just say that I am not against you in any way, shape, or form. I just want to inform you of what could happen. In terms of what the law may see, let me make a few corrections...

    That's now how the law works. He doesn't even have to press criminal charges. He can take them to Civil Court and rape him for pain/suffering/injury/etc. Just because he doesn't have criminal charges against him doesn't mean that he can't be found guilty in a civil case. Proof of this? OJ Simpson. Found innocent of the crminal charges, but he was found guilty of the civil charges and lost all of his money. There were MANY witnesses at the scene of this fight. Proving negligence would not be too difficult.

    If someone came up and hit me from behind like that (ie, sucker punched) and THEN stomped me in the head, they would be doing their best to live on welfare if I was seriously injured.

    Don't be so naive to believe that someone can't have charges brought against them days later. The Statute of Limitations is far from over for this case. It's rather easy to make a case in the eyes of the law: If someone is no longer a threat and you pursue them, especially from behind, then YOU are the aggressor (the guy(s) that went after the person who was walking away). The law does not look favorably upon aggressors in situations such as this (assuming what I have read is accurate).
    great point, although i do have a question (and have had it before) that once again popped into my head. if you sue someone in civil court, and it turns out they're pretty much a deadbeat, what money could you sue for??? just wondering, not trying to be smart ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by absoludely
    great point, although i do have a question (and have had it before) that once again popped into my head. if you sue someone in civil court, and it turns out they're pretty much a deadbeat, what money could you sue for??? just wondering, not trying to be smart ass.

    Good question!! The coolness of sueing someone is not just what they have NOW it is what they make LATER as well. THe US Bankrupucy courts also had lots of folks being sued declearing Chapter 11 or 13 to liquidate the civil suit. That practice is VERY hard to get through now, not to mention the criminal aspects of not paying. They no pay they meet Bubba they're new wife with a dick....

    A good attorney will file suit against them and anyone leaglly responsable for them. (If they are minors) Normally a crimal case will first prevail then the cvil. It is not likely these guys have the $$ backing as OJ Simpson, who got out of the criminal and got ass raped in the civil.
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    Ok well its been fun.....See ya when I see ya....Later....

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    Quote Originally Posted by absoludely
    great point, although i do have a question (and have had it before) that once again popped into my head. if you sue someone in civil court, and it turns out they're pretty much a deadbeat, what money could you sue for??? just wondering, not trying to be smart ass.
    Good question and that answer varies. A judge "could" rule someone to be "judgement proof". That means that you are technically exempt from having a judgement against you. There are rules and such, but that is the gist of it. You need to be in a VERY serious financial situation for that to happen, though.

    Otherwise, you can go after salary, wages, assets, etc. Perhaps he is ordered to make payments; it could be any number of combinations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner
    Good question and that answer varies. A judge "could" rule someone to be "judgement proof". That means that you are technically exempt from having a judgement against you. There are rules and such, but that is the gist of it. You need to be in a VERY serious financial situation for that to happen, though.

    Otherwise, you can go after salary, wages, assets, etc. Perhaps he is ordered to make payments; it could be any number of combinations.
    Dammit Ruiner.... You always put it so much more elegant than me. HEHEHEHE

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowjack
    Dammit Ruiner.... You always put it so much more elegant than me. HEHEHEHE

    GOOD FORM CHAP, GOOD FORM!!!

    Thats because he has a "real" car and guns "real" guns.

    The James Bond type shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowjack
    Dammit Ruiner.... You always put it so much more elegant than me. HEHEHEHE

    GOOD FORM CHAP, GOOD FORM!!!
    Oh no, Sir, you provided some info that I skipped over. Very well played if I do say so myself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vr6_girl
    NO... And I'm sure he will not go to jail...To many factors and unless there were last names given...If they have his name then the Guy must press charges...
    And also try to make a case....REMEMBER...A live could have been taken when the Guy Droped the Bike....DON"T FORGET THAT NOW....

    My head hurts after reading this. Is there a point somewhere in there?

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