yea so how bout i had a gun pulled on me tonight!!!

**Ruiner** · 03-01-2006, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2

Ruiner i think we have had this debate before...Or something like it.....but anyways ive heard that if you were to aim for the knee or leg it isnt considered as attempted murder...is that true???

You and I have never spoken on this subject before, but let me clear a few things up:

- It doesn't matter where you shoot someone with a gun. If you attempt to "only" shoot them in the leg, that is the same as trying to shoot them in the face in the court's eyes for the most part. For all they know, you aimed for the chest and only hit them in the leg because you were a bad shot. It will be hard to prove that you did not have malice. Shooting anyone in a fashion other than in self defense or in self defense of someone else will land you with "attempted" charges, perhaps aggravated assault, but you get the idea. A bullet wound to your leg that hits your carotid artery can kill you faster than a chest shot.

- As for attempted murder, if you are justified in self defense, it doesn't matter if you shoot them in the face, leg, or chest, you were justified. Just make sure that you put them down; a leg or arm shot probably won't do that.

**4dmin** · 03-01-2006, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Ruiner

You and I have never spoken on this subject before, but let me clear a few things up:

- It doesn't matter where you shoot someone with a gun. If you attempt to "only" shoot them in the leg, that is the same as trying to shoot them in the face in the court's eyes for the most part. For all they know, you aimed for the chest and only hit them in the leg because you were a bad shot. It will be hard to prove that you did not have malice. Shooting anyone in a fashion other than in self defense or in self defense of someone else will land you with "attempted" charges, perhaps aggravated assault, but you get the idea. A bullet wound to your leg that hits your carotid artery can kill you faster than a chest shot.

- As for attempted murder, if you are justified in self defense, it doesn't matter if you shoot them in the face, leg, or chest, you were justified. Just make sure that you put them down; a leg or arm shot probably won't do that.

if your going to shoot ... SHOOT TO KILL.

Dead men don't go to court.

**carrascopa** · 03-01-2006, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Ruiner

You and I have never spoken on this subject before, but let me clear a few things up:

- It doesn't matter where you shoot someone with a gun. If you attempt to "only" shoot them in the leg, that is the same as trying to shoot them in the face in the court's eyes for the most part. For all they know, you aimed for the chest and only hit them in the leg because you were a bad shot. It will be hard to prove that you did not have malice. Shooting anyone in a fashion other than in self defense or in self defense of someone else will land you with "attempted" charges, perhaps aggravated assault, but you get the idea. A bullet wound to your leg that hits your carotid artery can kill you faster than a chest shot.

- As for attempted murder, if you are justified in self defense, it doesn't matter if you shoot them in the face, leg, or chest, you were justified. Just make sure that you put them down; a leg or arm shot probably won't do that.

you see here is what I dont understand, and I will try to keep this brief..

A good friend of mine shot and killed someone on hwy316 a few yrs ago.

now the Victim, was a large guy, who the night before put my friend in the hospital due to a brutal beating!

now, the next afternoon, my boy released from the hospital and driving down 316 should happen to pull up right next to the guy that beat him the previous day!

Both stopped at a light the victim proceeded to get out of his car and charge my boys car, as if to lay down another ass whooping session right after his release from the hosptital.. my boy panicked and shot the guy in the chest before he got to his car!

MY HOMIE WONT SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.. BUT TO ME THAT WAS IN SELF DEFENSE.. I THINK THE SYSTEM IS FUCKED UP! ITS ALL BULLSHIT.. BEST THING IS JUST DONT CARRY A GUN AND HANDLE YOUR SHIT LIKE MEN!

**PhAtBoYMr2** · 03-01-2006, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by carrascopa

you see here is what I dont understand, and I will try to keep this brief..

A good friend of mine shot and killed someone on hwy316 a few yrs ago.

now the Victim, was a large guy, who the night before put my friend in the hospital due to a brutal beating!

now, the next afternoon, my boy released from the hospital and driving down 316 should happen to pull up right next to the guy that beat him the previous day!

Both stopped at a light the victim proceeded to get out of his car and charge my boys car, as if to lay down another ass whooping session right after his release from the hosptital.. my boy panicked and shot the guy in the chest before he got to his car!

MY HOMIE WONT SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.. BUT TO ME THAT WAS IN SELF DEFENSE.. I THINK THE SYSTEM IS FUCKED UP! ITS ALL BULLSHIT.. BEST THING IS JUST DONT CARRY A GUN AND HANDLE YOUR SHIT LIKE MEN!

-AMEN

**buddha@TeamFX** · 03-01-2006, 02:08 PM

From the way I understand you have to feel or be in danger for your life to use your weapon...I carry one right under my steering wheel everywhere I go...At all times!...and more than likely hopefully I will never have to use it but with the kind of people that are out there today you can never tell that is why I have it and with work sometimes I travel alot alone...Its just a safety thing!

**carrascopa** · 03-01-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by buddha@TeamFX

From the way I understand you have to feel or be in danger for your life to use your weapon...I carry one right under my steering wheel everywhere I go...At all times!...and more than likely hopefully I will never have to use it but with the kind of people that are out there today you can never tell that is why I have it and with work sometimes I travel alot alone...Its just a safety thing!

but who will determine when your life is actually in danger?? is it when youve already been shott??? to me it makes no sense..

KINDA LIKE, IF YOU SHOOT AN INTRUDER IN YOUR HOME, YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR IT

Shit...

MY EX-WIFE BUSTED AN INTRUDER IN THE HEAD WITH A BEER BOTTLE ONE NIGHT AT OUR HOUSE.. AND SHE ALMOST WENT TO JAIL FOR IT! WHAT KINDA FUCKED UP SHIT IS THAT?

**buddha@TeamFX** · 03-01-2006, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by carrascopa

but who will determine when your life is actually in danger?? is it when youve already been shott??? to me it makes no sense..

KINDA LIKE, IF YOU SHOOT AN INTRUDER IN YOUR HOME, YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR IT

Shit...

MY EX-WIFE BUSTED AN INTRUDER IN THE HEAD WITH A BEER BOTTLE ONE NIGHT AT OUR HOUSE.. AND SHE ALMOST WENT TO JAIL FOR IT! WHAT KINDA FUCKED UP SHIT IS THAT?

I agree with you there..there is a very thin line as to what is considered to be endangering your life...Personally if someone pulls a gun on me or tells me there going to shoot and they attempt to come toward I'm shooting them...and if you step foot on my property I would shoot as well...but it is fucked up sometimes...

**4dmin** · 03-01-2006, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by carrascopa

but who will determine when your life is actually in danger?? is it when youve already been shott??? to me it makes no sense..

KINDA LIKE, IF YOU SHOOT AN INTRUDER IN YOUR HOME, YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR IT

Shit...

MY EX-WIFE BUSTED AN INTRUDER IN THE HEAD WITH A BEER BOTTLE ONE NIGHT AT OUR HOUSE.. AND SHE ALMOST WENT TO JAIL FOR IT! WHAT KINDA FUCKED UP SHIT IS THAT?

thats why you shoot to kill... the problem is with the twisted system we have you are better off killing the guy then letting him live... if you dont' kill him you get "attempted" and sued for some BS charge...

True story: my grandfathers old neighbor was out of town and owned a few exotic pets one being a 12ft long python, his house got broken into and while the guy was trying to take the tv out of the house the snake bit him... he sued the home owner and won

**buddha@TeamFX** · 03-01-2006, 02:26 PM

^^ Thats really messed up!

**Ruiner** · 03-01-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by admin

thats why you shoot to kill... the problem is with the twisted system we have you are better off killing the guy then letting him live... if you dont' kill him you get "attempted" and sued for some BS charge...

True story: my grandfathers old neighbor was out of town and owned a few exotic pets one being a 12ft long python, his house got broken into and while the guy was trying to take the tv out of the house the snake bit him... he sued the home owner and won

Actually, Paul, you shoot to stop the threat. That is VERY important when it comes to testifying to the DA at your intentions.

**4dmin** · 03-01-2006, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Ruiner

Actually, Paul, you shoot to stop the threat. That is VERY important when it comes to testifying to the DA at your intentions.

"stop the threat" is just a nice way of saying shoot to kill, but either way its alot easier to justify when there are no wounded left to talk...

i keep my bedroom door locked every night, if someone breaks in my dogs will alert me, i'm going to call out that i have a loaded gun, if that door handle starts to turn w/o answering me back i'm going to plug the door with the entire clip then reload... i don't plan on being on the recieving end in my own home.

**Ruiner** · 03-01-2006, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by carrascopa

but who will determine when your life is actually in danger?? is it when youve already been shott??? to me it makes no sense..

KINDA LIKE, IF YOU SHOOT AN INTRUDER IN YOUR HOME, YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR IT

Shit...

MY EX-WIFE BUSTED AN INTRUDER IN THE HEAD WITH A BEER BOTTLE ONE NIGHT AT OUR HOUSE.. AND SHE ALMOST WENT TO JAIL FOR IT! WHAT KINDA FUCKED UP SHIT IS THAT?

If you have an intruder in your house, chances are you won't go to jail if you fire in self defense. Not by GA law, anyway. I can bring up the code for you, but I would suggest that you read the GA code and read it well. Know it word by word if you have to...

You also make sure that by the time the police show up at your house, you have pissed your pants and are crying non-stop as you were so scared of the man that broke into your house.

**speedminded** · 03-01-2006, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by carrascopa

MY EX-WIFE BUSTED AN INTRUDER IN THE HEAD WITH A BEER BOTTLE ONE NIGHT AT OUR HOUSE.. AND SHE ALMOST WENT TO JAIL FOR IT! WHAT KINDA FUCKED UP SHIT IS THAT?

man, I still have scares from that shit!

naw, j/k. Yo collins, glad there's no holes in you man...getting shot at is no fun. Was the pistol chrome by chance?

**4dmin** · 03-01-2006, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by carrascopa

MY HOMIE WONT SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.. BUT TO ME THAT WAS IN SELF DEFENSE.. I THINK THE SYSTEM IS FUCKED UP! ITS ALL BULLSHIT.. BEST THING IS JUST DONT CARRY A GUN AND HANDLE YOUR SHIT LIKE MEN!

true dat, but i'm sure if he waited until there was absolutely no choice to shoot things would be different... cause think about it he does look quite guilty (motive) since the guy beat his ass the day before. shooting the guy before he got to the car would be the thing... 1) why didn't he drive off? 2) if he couldn't drive off b/c of traffic, as soon as the other guy tried to get into the car/break window would be time to then fire

either way that is some crazy shit. were these guys from high school?

**carrascopa** · 03-01-2006, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by admin

true dat, but i'm sure if he waited until there was absolutely no choice to shoot things would be different... cause think about it he does look quite guilty (motive) since the guy beat his ass the day before. shooting the guy before he got to the car would be the thing... 1) why didn't he drive off? 2) if he couldn't drive off b/c of traffic, as soon as the other guy tried to get into the car/break window would be time to then fire

either way that is some crazy shit. were these guys from high school?

YOU SEE.. I DISAGREE, LETS SAY SOMEONE WHOOPED THE SHIT OUT OF YOU SO BAD YOU WERE IN ICU

YOU GET OUT OF ICU AND ARE DRIVING HOME AND THE SAME GUY FINDS YOU AND GOES FOR ANOTHER ATTACK!

WOULD YOU NOT BE SCARED SHITLESS... ESPECIALLY STILL BEING WOUNDED FROM THE NIGHT BEFORE??

THE FACT THAT THEY WERE STUCK AT A RED LIGHT AND THAT THE VICTIM WAS SHOT 2 FT FROM MY BOYS CAR SHOWS ME THAT IT WAS SELF DEFENSE, OTHERSWISE WHY WOULD THE VICTIM BE OUT OF HIS CAR.. IT WAS OBVIOUS THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANOTHER ATTACK

MY BOY DIDNT EVEN ROLL DOWN HIS WINDOW.. NO PREMEDITATION TO THAT SHIT.. HE SHOT RIGHT THROUGHT THE GLASS..

THIS WAS AN ONGOING SCUFFLE BETWEEN THE 2 OF THEM.. MY BOY WAS BRAD CRANE.. HE WAS HUGE, CRAZY AND IDNT GIVE A FUCK.. IT WAS GONNA END WITH ONE OF THEM DIENG.. BUT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES I JSUT DONT AGREE WITH THE STATE

**Ruiner** · 03-01-2006, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by carrascopa

Both stopped at a light the victim proceeded to get out of his car and charge my boys car, as if to lay down another ass whooping session right after his release from the hosptital.. my boy panicked and shot the guy in the chest before he got to his car!

MY HOMIE WONT SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.. BUT TO ME THAT WAS IN SELF DEFENSE.. I THINK THE SYSTEM IS FUCKED UP! ITS ALL BULLSHIT.. BEST THING IS JUST DONT CARRY A GUN AND HANDLE YOUR SHIT LIKE MEN!

Tell me this: What crime did the guy commit by charging the car that the guy was in?

**carrascopa** · 03-01-2006, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Ruiner

Tell me this: What crime did the guy commit by charging the car that the guy was in?

U SEE THAT IS MY POINT..

BUT COMMON SENSE WOULD TELL YOU THAT ALTHOUGH HE DID NOT COMMIT A CRIME, HE HAD INTENT TO DO SO??

SO WAS MY BOY BRAD SUPPOSED TO WAIT UNTIL THE GUY PULLED A GUN OF HIS OWN AND SHOT 1ST?? IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO ME THATS ALL

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