IA Members!!! Please step into my office!

[Julio]

II buy a car and mod it up to how I like it, and do what I can. I don't need any big build to have friends or make friends or do anything. And I don't need a persona to make anything happen. I am jitb online and in person. I am my own person.

I also don't need a car to validate anything I have going on in my life. I have always bought what I want modded what I wanted and could for what I wanted at the time.

The fact that you think that anything I have built or not built makes or breaks is a joke within itself. I don't need to list stuff I have owned and stuff I have built because who cares.

The same reasoning you are throwing at me I can throw back you, in the sense that the last car anyone remembers you in is a corvette with spray painted wheels, and before that the civic back years ago.

Over the top is a opinion, do what you want and be happy, don't need anyones approval on anything never have never will.

What jitb has done or not done has nothing to do with IA, truth is IA turned to shit, when you and paul stopped doing the things that made ia great. Everyone grows up and life changes and people have to do put things in priorities. But that's what it boils down to with this place. Shit happens people move on, but its not the folks of Atlanta fault that ia isn't the place to be anymore.



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Lol.. Dude relax... I was never throwing anything.. Was a simple observation.. I thought we were talking about cars.... Im Not reffering to friends... Or other stuff. No one ever rejected you for what you drove or owned... Is the truth.. A lot of people on IA were known more for their online persona rather then what car they own or built..
is just reality...

Btw - before You throw at people, have more info.. I actually had 2 silly civics.. The EK.. And EG that I really never talked about.. But I'm sure if you do a search on here in the pics section you will find.. Build from ground up.. Bought totaled w/ salvage title, fixed it up.. Sold it.. A few people on here knew about it.. I bought parts from Mike ( Vteckidd ) .
Had a TT .. Which did a few mods and ran slow ass 13's... And yes, I still own the vette.. With POWDER coated wheels from Millers....

You are a great supporter of the scene..no question about .. But remember, supporters dont keep companies open... Oxymoron comment.. But if you read across the lines of what I'm saying... You will understand...

Never meant to offend anyone.

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ImportAtlanta is in a Recession people.....On a side note i myself don't build cars i drive them

[Julio]

I'm living in reality. Shit ain't like it used to be. You have to look far and wide to find something that hasn't been done before. If you want to use that as a cop-out to be anti-social then so be it. I'll admit it's rare I see a car that truly impresses me nowadays. But that doesn't mean I stay at home, rather I've turned my attention to motorsports to keep me entertained. But that doesn't mean I'm going to forgo the social interactions with people who share a common interest. Without the people, none of this is worth a damn.

Unbelievable... Me a cop out ? Dude, you are 100% incorrect... I will go ahead and brag a little....or celebrate a big win.. Thanks to my little idea .. 1000's of friendships were made....

I'm with Mike, have you been to meets lately ?

[JITB]

Lol.. Dude relax... I was never throwing anything.. Was a simple observation.. I thought we were talking about cars.... Im Not reffering to friends... Or other stuff. No one ever rejected you for what you drove or owned... Is the truth.. A lot of people on IA were known more for their online persona rather then what car they own or built..
is just reality...

Btw - before You throw at people, have more info.. I actually had 2 silly civics.. The EK.. And EG that I really never talked about.. But I'm sure if you do a search on here in the pics section you will find.. Build from ground up.. Bought totaled w/ salvage title, fixed it up.. Sold it.. A few people on here knew about it.. I bought parts from Mike ( Vteckidd ) .
Had a TT .. Which did a few mods and ran slow ass 13's... And yes, I still own the vette.. With POWDER coated wheels from Millers....

You are a great supporter of the scene..no question about .. But remember, supporters dont keep companies open... Oxymoron comment.. But if you read across the lines of what I'm saying... You will understand...

Never meant to offend anyone.

I just like cars, who built what and what got built when means nothing when it comes down to it. Have fun do your thing, its not rocket science never has been.

[Julio]

Btw - I really wouldve like to hit up the garage zero meet not to long ago. By looking at the picture saw some nice car and I believe the show Jitb was part or or made..l saw some nice pictures.. Still hope..

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Btw - I really wouldve like to hit up the garage zero meet not to long ago. By looking at the picture saw some nice car and I believe the show Jitb was part or or made..l saw some nice pictures.. Still hope..

I Envy Julio to an extent he built the shit up for many years then got out while on top. In the back of my head i view him as Mc hammer nugga should have saved/invested that money well lol

[Julio]

I just like cars, who built what and what got built when means nothing when it comes down to it. Have fun do your thing, its not rocket science never has been.

We all do bro....

[Julio]

I Envy Julio to an extent he built the shit up for many years then got out while on top. In the back of my head i view him as Mc hammer nugga should have saved/invested that money well lol

My % was well invested...

[Kamikaze]

Unbelievable... Me a cop out ? Dude, you are 100% incorrect... I will go ahead and brag a little....or celebrate a big win.. Thanks to my little idea .. 1000's of friendships were made....

I'm with Mike, have you been to meets lately ?

I'm not trying to take away from the fact you started one of the largest, if not the largest, import forums in the southeast. That's all well and good. But your statements in this thread would lead one to believe you've given up on the local (and national) automotive scene. My point is, that kind of mentality coming from you, since we're bragging a little, is pretty sad.

And yes I've been to meets lately, we tend to have a good time. Probably because most of us realize it's not just about the cars and their owners' respective claim to fame. It's about having a good time with like-minded people.

[Julio]

I'm not trying to take away from the fact you started one of the largest, if not the largest, import forums in the southeast. That's all well and good. But your statements in this thread would lead one to believe you've given up on the local (and national) automotive scene. My point is, that kind of mentality coming from you, since we're bragging a little, is pretty sad.

And yes I've been to meets lately, we tend to have a good time. Probably because most of us realize it's not just about the cars and their owners' respective claim to fame. It's about having a good time with like-minded people.

Didn't give up.. I'm still around... Just have other priorities.... For now.l

[quickdodge®]

But your statements in this thread would lead one to believe you've given up on the local (and national) automotive scene. My point is, that kind of mentality coming from you, since we're bragging a little, is pretty sad.

Why is it sad? Because he got himself a family and different interests? Why is that sad, dude? Because he doesn't share your interests? Your "point" makes no sense at all. Later, QD.

[Echonova]

So far I agree with everyone.

[Kamikaze]

Why is it sad? Because he got himself a family and different interests? Why is that sad, dude? Because he doesn't share your interests? Your "point" makes no sense at all. Later, QD.

I'm sorry you must have me mistaken with someone else. You assume that I'm one of these one-track-minded fan boys? I'll let you know that cars aren't the center of my life, I have other interests. I'm also pursuing a bachelors degree in computer science so I can provide for myself after I graduate, and a family if I ever decide to have one. So please, don't assume that you know anything about me or my interests.

[Julio]

I don't get it either QDizzle..

I believe, that even though I now have a family and my precious little daughter which is my # 1 Priority and most important thing on the planet..I still have time to play with this.... I mean, yes, is not slammed with dope off set rimmayyysssss in the color green. or rusted hood... but hey.. it is what it is....I still enjoy it.. This picture was taken at Cruise for kids.. big fan of the event.. and may attend this year.. will def try..

[Julio]

I'm sorry you must have me mistaken with someone else. You assume that I'm one of these one-track-minded fan boys? I'll let you know that cars aren't the center of my life, I have other interests. I'm also pursuing a bachelors degree in computer science so I can provide for myself after I graduate, and a family if I ever decide to have one. So please, don't assume that you know anything about me or my interests.

All QD said, that I don't share your interests... he never mentioned anything about what your actual interests are..

[Kamikaze]

I don't get it either QDizzle..

I believe, that even though I now have a family and my precious little daughter which is my # 1 Priority and most important thing on the planet..I still have time to play with this.... I mean, yes, is not slammed with dope off set rimmayyysssss in the color green. or rusted hood... but hey.. it is what it is....I still enjoy it.. This picture was taken at Cruise for kids.. big fan of the event.. and may attend this year.. will def try..

Your family should be your #1 priority, no doubt. No hobby is that important. But just because life happens doesn't mean you have to give it up. I'm sure these gentleman didn't/don't neglect their families because they want to shoot the breeze with fellow enthusiasts a couple days out of the month.



That's all I'm saying; I don't know how else to explain it.

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Damn talk about thread getting off Topic lol

[Kamikaze]

All QD said, that I don't share your interests... he never mentioned anything about what your actual interests are..

He would have to assume what my interests are to know if they're different. Would he not? But it's whatever. This discussion is just going in circles and I could be sleeping right now so you guys have fun.

[quickdodge®]

I'm sorry you must have me mistaken with someone else. You assume that I'm one of these one-track-minded fan boys? I'll let you know that cars aren't the center of my life, I have other interests. I'm also pursuing a bachelors degree in computer science so I can provide for myself after I graduate, and a family if I ever decide to have one. So please, don't assume that you know anything about me or my interests.

Calm down, Sparky. See this is part of the reason the scene fades as well. People get too serious about things and take things too personal. I, simply, asked why is it sad because Julio stopped going to meets? Not sure where your response comes from.

I don't get it either QDizzle..

Like above, dude, I was wondering why the dude thought it was sad that you don't participate in the "scene" like you used to. As if once you're in the tuning hobby, you have to remain there for life. Like you said, priorities shift. There are so many "classic" original members of this site that would put yours and my input into the hobby to shame. Nowadays, they have no involvement in it anymore. They grew out of it. No less respect to them for it.

All QD said, that I don't share your interests... he never mentioned anything about what your actual interests are..

True. Later, QD.

[Julio]

Your family should be your #1 priority, no doubt. No hobby is that important. But just because life happens doesn't mean you have to give it up. I'm sure these gentleman didn't/don't neglect their families because they want to shoot the breeze with fellow enthusiasts a couple days out of the month.



That's all I'm saying; I don't know how else to explain it.

lol.. Cool.. I haven't been to a car event in about 1 year... and I'm a cop out... I have been to quite a few events in my lifetime just like many in this thread.. in reality.. I rather look at 50 Porsche's then 200 civics and 240's.

But cool.. you win. lmao. Continue blaming people like me, who rarely attend events anymore.. where in reality, the problem is somewhere else...

[Julio]

He would have to assume what my interests are to know if they're different. Would he not? But it's whatever. This discussion is just going in circles and I could be sleeping right now so you guys have fun.

I'm pretty sure this thread gave it away.. lol

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[Julio]

im pretty sure im Tracy Morgan in this case ! lmao !

[Vteckidd]

I don't know about all you guys, but to me, a car enthusiast, that is a true car enthusiast, never "moves on". This isn't just a hobby, it's not a phase, it's not something I like to do when I have time, it's a lifestyle. From the time I wake up to the time I go to bed I'm thinking about cars, about modding, about racing them, about what I want, and about what I'll have in the future. I'm never going to get over this. Not for a wife nor kids. If my girl doesn't like this about me, she's gone. Just like that. If I ever get married my wife will understand or we're not getting married. I'm not a bitch, and I don't let girls have my balls. I'm my own person and I live for cars, to work on them, to mod them, to race them, to look at them, to read about them, I just love it.

I met a guy on the sentra forum who has a vq'ed swapped sentra running 12's all motor. You know how old he is? 78. Yes 78. Seventy eight years of age old-at the track with us, drag racing and having fun. That's going to me when I get old.

I'm going to school to be an optometrist, they make decent money. You know why? It's not because I care about houses or jewelry. It's the only way I know I can afford to have a gtr and a decent living because I damn sure can't afford one making 19.30 an hour. This obsession of cars, is all consuming and everything else comes second, well within reason of course.

/rant

i guess for me thats the problem. I dont really care anymore. I realize i dont care about the cars, i dont care about the people, and its not stimulating to me anymore. the car crowd just seems to reek of below average intelligence. I just got to the point where i cant hold a normal conversation with them, or talk about other things because they are so GOD DAMN STUPID. So i gave up. Id go to a meet and people would be talking about stuff i really didnt care about. When the DOODOO zero offset wheels became the craze, i was done with it.

maybe im just old and cynical. I appreciate cars still, but nothing like i used to. I was in Georgetown this weekend and saw this crazy modded out GTR, and i didnt even stop to take a picture. I was like "eh, cool" and kept going. But i passed a champs at Northpoint last week and saw the new Lebron 9s and was like OH SHIT, took a picture and bought a pair. Go figure. Guess my tastes changed.

Im not saying every car person is an idiot, im just saying it seems like MOST of them are. Most of them will never amount to anything, most of them live with mommy and daddy, most of them dont do anything worthwhile for a living, most of them have no education, no creativity, etc. I probably was A LOT like them, but i grew out of it, so i dont want anything to do with them anymore.

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The arrogance is getting a little thick in here....

[silversol]

Alot of people at hitting the nail on the head. Nopi/apc and other big names are gone. I would love to see some of our sponsors have a import atlanta meet sponsored who ever. The reason alot of the big names are gone is becase the money is not there alot of the reason alot of small performance shops are gone. Like vteckidd said The import crowd just seems to reek of below average intelligence when I was open for bussiness I wanted to beat my head aginst the wall talking to some of them. I could predict what they were going to say before they say it. First words are always whats the lowest you will take, Take any trades? and what do you mean you wont trade your car you have forsale for my xbox skateboard and a roof bike rack?

I know with the calls i was getting the other small shops were getting the same calls. And lets be honest the whole import scean is sketchy the people are sketchy everyone that owns a honda lives in fear of something happening to it. Its always a big secret whats under the hood. At the same time no one with a high dollar car like a gtr/vette/evo or a sti wants to drop off there car at a shop full of junky honda zip tied and primered together.

I think alot of it is the import crowd Not the whole car enthusiast crowd. becase like i said the import crowd is cheap and has alot of sketchy people in it because of it! Go to a corvette meet and its a older crowd and well every one has money to buy a vette so people that own them arnt looking to steal someone elses vette. Not saying that it does not happen but its few and far between..

I have a classic mustang that i use to go to a ton of shows with it was alot of fun everyone is super friendly and everyone had there hood open becase is not a big sketchy secret whats under the hood beacase there are not alot of sketchy people around. There was a huge diffrence in the type of people in the import and other car meets. Driving the mustang if another classic car owner say me I would get a thumbs up or a friendly wave, Unlike driving in a moded honda if another honda/import owner gets beside me Its OMFG there cant be another import with in a half mile around me and want to have a suddned race to the death in the middle of 5pm atlanta traffic.

[Firefightin_tC]

I don't know about all you guys, but to me, a car enthusiast, that is a true car enthusiast, never "moves on". This isn't just a hobby, it's not a phase, it's not something I like to do when I have time, it's a lifestyle. From the time I wake up to the time I go to bed I'm thinking about cars, about modding, about racing them, about what I want, and about what I'll have in the future. I'm never going to get over this. Not for a wife nor kids. If my girl doesn't like this about me, she's gone. Just like that. If I ever get married my wife will understand or we're not getting married. I'm not a bitch, and I don't let girls have my balls. I'm my own person and I live for cars, to work on them, to mod them, to race them, to look at them, to read about them, I just love it.

I met a guy on the sentra forum who has a vq'ed swapped sentra running 12's all motor. You know how old he is? 78. Yes 78. Seventy eight years of age old-at the track with us, drag racing and having fun. That's going to me when I get old.

I'm going to school to be an optometrist, they make decent money. You know why? It's not because I care about houses or jewelry. It's the only way I know I can afford to have a gtr and a decent living because I damn sure can't afford one making 19.30 an hour. This obsession of cars, is all consuming and everything else comes second, well within reason of course.

/rant

I like this.

[Vteckidd]

I guess when you work IN the industry you used to call a hobby, it no longer is a hobby. its work. I met a lot of cool people working at Mainstream and Batlground and owning Kiddracing, but that was far overshadowed by the complete and absolute morons i came in contact with. I did it for so long cars just ceased to become fun. It became a job. And when you hear some of the ignorant stupid shit that comes out of peoples mouths, you get turned off by it.

Im not arrogant im stating a fact. I believe im an educated man, im a smart person, i can argue and debate , understand issues with the best of them. When you are in contact with people you constantly have to try and teach or hold a mediocre conversation with, its pretty mind numbing.

I guess what im saying is that most people move through phases in life. They grow up, they learn from their mistakes, etc. i was probably just as stupid and dumb as a lot of the kids i make fun of, but i grew out of it. I moved on. So i dont want to associate with those people anymore, and if they are my age, then i want nothing to do with them if they still act like they are 21.

Silversol is right about the meets aspect. Honda/Acura kids breed thieves, and low lifes. its cause the cars are CHEAP to start with. anyone can buy a $2000 civic and slap a $50 fart can on it and go act a fool. Because its so cheap, theres a huge amount of them. Vettes START at $10,000+ not anyone can go buy them (although every car group has its share of retards).

It goes back to and old saying my grandfather used to say, you are who your friends are. You are the company you keep. If you associate with a bunch of riced out civics, chances are your no better than they are. That happened to me about 2 years ago, i looked at myself and realized i was "friends" with a bunch of loser, no education, rejects who were going nowhere in life, who only hung out with me because i had money. And when i say i had money i mean i had a job that paid more than minimum wage. They brought around other people that were equal as losers, who cared more about spending EVERY DIME they had on a Civic, or G35 they could barely afford, than furthering their stature in life.

Id rather have a bank account full of money and a 95 toyota camry, than be broke with a K SERIES CIVIC Y0!. I didnt always used to be that way. I used to have a $10,000 88 CRX and eat ramen noodles.

[Vteckidd]

And Travis is right about go look at other meets with other car people. Most people get along and enjoy each other, have a nice time, act like adults.........then go to a Varsity meet............look at the difference. Who wants to be 30 years old hanging out at the Varsity? Look at the poeple that go there? Dont you want something BETTER for yourself? Who wants to hang around a bunch of people making $20,000 a year who live at home and have no money, no education, no values, no ambition, no direction?

[Nemesis]

saw this crazy modded out GTR, and i didnt even stop to take a picture. I was like "eh, cool" and kept going. But i passed a champs at Northpoint last week and saw the new Lebron 9s and was like OH SHIT, took a picture and bought a pair. Go figure. Guess my tastes changed.
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LOL Im the same way now, but instead of shoes...its man purse.....I mean satchel bags. LOL

[Vteckidd]

LOL Im the same way now, but instead of shoes...its man purse.....I mean satchel bags. LOL

MURSE :P

[RandomGuy]

Mike, when did you start doin stuff in IT, or was it always some shit you did on the low low?

[silversol]

And Travis is right about go look at other meets with other car people. Most people get along and enjoy each other, have a nice time, act like adults.........then go to a Varsity meet............look at the difference. Who wants to be 30 years old hanging out at the Varsity? Look at the poeple that go there? Dont you want something BETTER for yourself? Who wants to hang around a bunch of people making $20,000 a year who live at home and have no money, no education, no values, no ambition, no direction?

I know how you feel about just not careing, Becase I really dont anymore I drive a bone stock 2000 honda civic that is automatic its super cheap to maintain and i dont have to do anything but put gas in it. And I can park it anywhere with out worry. I still have my mustang but i have not touched it in months becase its not costing me anything to let it sit. I like to watch my bank account grow and my stock portfolio grow and work on myself and my future rather then my car. I still love to go to a classic car show becase everyone is respectful of each other. Also my classic car has gained value since i have owned it and will continue to gain value Not that i want to sell it but its almost as good as money in the bank, when I got a loan from my local bank a few years ago they had no problem useing it as colateral for my loan.

With the import crowd I sware I have never seen a group of car guys fighting to knock the value of there cars down like them. Looking at some of the post on this forum will prove that, they all think they are car apprasers and becase they saw one 2000 civic sell for 500 they are all worth that now. And the wtb threads no one want to buy car they want a perfect car as a shell and throw there swap in and go and are willling to pay up 500 whole dollars for it lol! Does it matter you just spent 800 bucks on paint and replaced all the suspension bushings? No Becase "Awww Man its just a shell doggg" I feel bad for the guys that really do have nice imports that have spent money on good high dollar stuff and have spent thousands of dollars on paint and body and a legit high dollar jdm engine swap, Just to get hounded by the kids on here Like how dare you ask top dollar for a car you selling at a loss already? Or the will you sell it as a shell Ill give you 5oo for it? When I had a car dealers licence I hated selling honda/acura cars. Becase they go for crazy money at the dealer auction and kids think they give them away at the auctions so they can low ball the hell out of you. I made more money selling pick up trucks then I ever did with hondas.

Yes People move on Im still Into cars and like you said I think Alot of the lowballers and stupid people are ruining things for others. Like you said guys grow up and dont want to be surounded by stupid Kids. I think this is the reason alot of companys and sponsors realise this and pull out do to the lack of money. Kids dont getting it that is cost money to have a event and they are doing the event to bring in business, And now it just leads to trouble Like the thread about garage zero they have a event and insted of getting business they get a few sets of wheels jaked..

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If you think the domestic/classic world is free of idiots and assholes, you haven't been in the domestic/classic world long enough. Lol. They and the import world started off in the exact same place.

[Vteckidd]

If you think the domestic/classic world is free of idiots and assholes, you haven't been in the domestic/classic world long enough. Lol. They and the import world started off in the exact same place.

like i said, every group has its dumbasses. Look at Thacker

But theres far more Honda/Acura/LOWER COST IMPORTS retards than the others. I cant tell you how many times ive driven down the highway and had some mexican or white trash kid roll up next to me in his flat black race car to "RUN ME" in bumper to bumper traffic.

I dont run across many Vette/Mustang/EVO/STI "kids" that act that retarded.

[silversol]

If you think the domestic/classic world is free of idiots and assholes, you haven't been in the domestic/classic world long enough. Lol. They and the import world started off in the exact same place.

There are idiots and asshole in all "clicks" But they are few and far between compared to the imports clicks. I dont think the guy in the 69mach1 or the 68 fastback mustang is going to start cutting donuts around my car in the car shop parking lot. Im willing to bet my lunch the guy parked in front of me in the 69 camaro is not going to try to show off his drift skills in the car show parking lot. Becase they have the same respect for my car as I do for their car.

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like i said, every group has its dumbasses. Look at Thacker

But theres far more Honda/Acura/LOWER COST IMPORTS retards than the others. I cant tell you how many times ive driven down the highway and had some mexican or white trash kid roll up next to me in his flat black race car to "RUN ME" in bumper to bumper traffic.

I dont run across many Vette/Mustang/EVO/STI "kids" that act that retarded.

So we should divide IA into two site one regular and the othe Adult ImportAtlanta. Members 25+ can only join ? lol

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Those guys are just a different kind of asshole. They're the "my car is better than yours because I paid 40k for it and it's already done, you have a piece of shit" kind of asshole.

[Vteckidd]

With the import crowd I sware I have never seen a group of car guys fighting to knock the value of there cars down like them. Looking at some of the post on this forum will prove that, they all think they are car apprasers and becase they saw one 2000 civic sell for 500 they are all worth that now. And the wtb threads no one want to buy car they want a perfect car as a shell and throw there swap in and go and are willling to pay up 500 whole dollars for it lol! Does it matter you just spent 800 bucks on paint and replaced all the suspension bushings? No Becase "Awww Man its just a shell doggg" I feel bad for the guys that really do have nice imports that have spent money on good high dollar stuff and have spent thousands of dollars on paint and body and a legit high dollar jdm engine swap, Just to get hounded by the kids on here Like how dare you ask top dollar for a car you selling at a loss already? Or the will you sell it as a shell Ill give you 5oo for it? When I had a car dealers licence I hated selling honda/acura cars. Becase they go for crazy money at the dealer auction and kids think they give them away at the auctions so they can low ball the hell out of you. I made more money selling pick up trucks then I ever did with hondas.

Its like Gregg that is on here parting his car out. He used to brag about how cheap it was to build his K24 EG Hatch because he wanted to argue about how awesome a bargain hunter he was. He said he had less than $5000 in his whole car (which i knew was a lie). THEN, he posts a thread parting his car out and specifically says "NO LOWBALLERS" and acts like he is insulted at people offering him little money for his parts........wait.......isnt that what HE did to other people?

The majority of kids on here have NO MONEY and they dont want to SAVE more money so they just try to haggle people to death which does drive down the price of EVERYTHING. Quality cars get lumped in with shit cars, quality parts get devalued by replicas, etc

Theres nothing wrong with paying a fair price for a quality part. Nothing wrong with negotiating, but theres a difference between being thrifty and being BROKE. Case in point i sold some MINT Rotas few weeks ago and had them listed for $250 (50% of what they go for) and they had $400 in POTENZAS on them. I had people offering me $100, or "hey will you take the tires off i need 2". really? I finally dropped them down to $100 and they sold in hours, and i STILL HAD PEOPLE LOWBALLING ME $75 for them. When is lowballing lowballing, and when is negotiating now being a dick? I dont know but i think that was pretty absurd.

Yes People move on Im still Into cars and like you said I think Alot of the lowballers and stupid people are ruining things for others. Like you said guys grow up and dont want to be surounded by stupid Kids. I think this is the reason alot of companys and sponsors realise this and pull out do to the lack of money. Kids dont getting it that is cost money to have a event and they are doing the event to bring in business, And now it just leads to trouble Like the thread about garage zero they have a event and insted of getting business they get a few sets of wheels jaked..

I read that , that was pretty shitty. Some business decides to have an event to help the local people out and people use it to steal from them. If i was garage zero id never have another event again. Same thing happened to mainstream, we had a huge dyno day, and hid everything of value, then week later someone hopped the fence and stole $20,000 worth of stuff. BG had it happen IIRC someone stole Dan Kangs wheels off his car after a meet.

Who wants to operate with a clientele that refuses to pay your prices, wants to haggle you out of business, then rip you off when you try to do something nice?

[silversol]

Those guys are just a different kind of asshole. They're the "my car is better than yours because I paid 40k for it and it's already done, you have a piece of shit" kind of asshole.

I have yet to run into those guys in the 15 years I have been going. Once again I see that in the import world. If anything a unrestored survior muscle car will draw a crowd at a car show from alll the guys that are restoring their car to how it came from the factory, Becase alot of paint marks clips and little things that make or break a restoration is not in the books or online!