im pretty sure im Tracy Morgan in this case ! lmao !
im pretty sure im Tracy Morgan in this case ! lmao !
The arrogance is getting a little thick in here....
Alot of people at hitting the nail on the head. Nopi/apc and other big names are gone. I would love to see some of our sponsors have a import atlanta meet sponsored who ever. The reason alot of the big names are gone is becase the money is not there alot of the reason alot of small performance shops are gone. Like vteckidd said The import crowd just seems to reek of below average intelligence when I was open for bussiness I wanted to beat my head aginst the wall talking to some of them. I could predict what they were going to say before they say it. First words are always whats the lowest you will take, Take any trades? and what do you mean you wont trade your car you have forsale for my xbox skateboard and a roof bike rack?
I know with the calls i was getting the other small shops were getting the same calls. And lets be honest the whole import scean is sketchy the people are sketchy everyone that owns a honda lives in fear of something happening to it. Its always a big secret whats under the hood. At the same time no one with a high dollar car like a gtr/vette/evo or a sti wants to drop off there car at a shop full of junky honda zip tied and primered together.
I think alot of it is the import crowd Not the whole car enthusiast crowd. becase like i said the import crowd is cheap and has alot of sketchy people in it because of it! Go to a corvette meet and its a older crowd and well every one has money to buy a vette so people that own them arnt looking to steal someone elses vette. Not saying that it does not happen but its few and far between..
I have a classic mustang that i use to go to a ton of shows with it was alot of fun everyone is super friendly and everyone had there hood open becase is not a big sketchy secret whats under the hood beacase there are not alot of sketchy people around. There was a huge diffrence in the type of people in the import and other car meets. Driving the mustang if another classic car owner say me I would get a thumbs up or a friendly wave, Unlike driving in a moded honda if another honda/import owner gets beside me Its OMFG there cant be another import with in a half mile around me and want to have a suddned race to the death in the middle of 5pm atlanta traffic.
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And Travis is right about go look at other meets with other car people. Most people get along and enjoy each other, have a nice time, act like adults.........then go to a Varsity meet............look at the difference. Who wants to be 30 years old hanging out at the Varsity? Look at the poeple that go there? Dont you want something BETTER for yourself? Who wants to hang around a bunch of people making $20,000 a year who live at home and have no money, no education, no values, no ambition, no direction?
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I know how you feel about just not careing, Becase I really dont anymore I drive a bone stock 2000 honda civic that is automatic its super cheap to maintain and i dont have to do anything but put gas in it. And I can park it anywhere with out worry. I still have my mustang but i have not touched it in months becase its not costing me anything to let it sit. I like to watch my bank account grow and my stock portfolio grow and work on myself and my future rather then my car. I still love to go to a classic car show becase everyone is respectful of each other. Also my classic car has gained value since i have owned it and will continue to gain value Not that i want to sell it but its almost as good as money in the bank, when I got a loan from my local bank a few years ago they had no problem useing it as colateral for my loan.Originally Posted by Vteckidd
With the import crowd I sware I have never seen a group of car guys fighting to knock the value of there cars down like them. Looking at some of the post on this forum will prove that, they all think they are car apprasers and becase they saw one 2000 civic sell for 500 they are all worth that now. And the wtb threads no one want to buy car they want a perfect car as a shell and throw there swap in and go and are willling to pay up 500 whole dollars for it lol! Does it matter you just spent 800 bucks on paint and replaced all the suspension bushings? No Becase "Awww Man its just a shell doggg" I feel bad for the guys that really do have nice imports that have spent money on good high dollar stuff and have spent thousands of dollars on paint and body and a legit high dollar jdm engine swap, Just to get hounded by the kids on here Like how dare you ask top dollar for a car you selling at a loss already? Or the will you sell it as a shell Ill give you 5oo for it? When I had a car dealers licence I hated selling honda/acura cars. Becase they go for crazy money at the dealer auction and kids think they give them away at the auctions so they can low ball the hell out of you. I made more money selling pick up trucks then I ever did with hondas.
Yes People move on Im still Into cars and like you said I think Alot of the lowballers and stupid people are ruining things for others. Like you said guys grow up and dont want to be surounded by stupid Kids. I think this is the reason alot of companys and sponsors realise this and pull out do to the lack of money. Kids dont getting it that is cost money to have a event and they are doing the event to bring in business, And now it just leads to trouble Like the thread about garage zero they have a event and insted of getting business they get a few sets of wheels jaked..
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Its like Gregg that is on here parting his car out. He used to brag about how cheap it was to build his K24 EG Hatch because he wanted to argue about how awesome a bargain hunter he was. He said he had less than $5000 in his whole car (which i knew was a lie). THEN, he posts a thread parting his car out and specifically says "NO LOWBALLERS" and acts like he is insulted at people offering him little money for his parts........wait.......isnt that what HE did to other people?
The majority of kids on here have NO MONEY and they dont want to SAVE more money so they just try to haggle people to death which does drive down the price of EVERYTHING. Quality cars get lumped in with shit cars, quality parts get devalued by replicas, etc
Theres nothing wrong with paying a fair price for a quality part. Nothing wrong with negotiating, but theres a difference between being thrifty and being BROKE. Case in point i sold some MINT Rotas few weeks ago and had them listed for $250 (50% of what they go for) and they had $400 in POTENZAS on them. I had people offering me $100, or "hey will you take the tires off i need 2". really? I finally dropped them down to $100 and they sold in hours, and i STILL HAD PEOPLE LOWBALLING ME $75 for them. When is lowballing lowballing, and when is negotiating now being a dick? I dont know but i think that was pretty absurd.
I read that , that was pretty shitty. Some business decides to have an event to help the local people out and people use it to steal from them. If i was garage zero id never have another event again. Same thing happened to mainstream, we had a huge dyno day, and hid everything of value, then week later someone hopped the fence and stole $20,000 worth of stuff. BG had it happen IIRC someone stole Dan Kangs wheels off his car after a meet.Yes People move on Im still Into cars and like you said I think Alot of the lowballers and stupid people are ruining things for others. Like you said guys grow up and dont want to be surounded by stupid Kids. I think this is the reason alot of companys and sponsors realise this and pull out do to the lack of money. Kids dont getting it that is cost money to have a event and they are doing the event to bring in business, And now it just leads to trouble Like the thread about garage zero they have a event and insted of getting business they get a few sets of wheels jaked..
Who wants to operate with a clientele that refuses to pay your prices, wants to haggle you out of business, then rip you off when you try to do something nice?
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Yeah i know that story with the wheels. I use to put shit up for stupid cheap just to get it out of my way, Im sure alot of people called me a dick and hated my guts when I would get a call from people offering 75$ for 400$ wheels I would just hang up on them, It was easy to just throw parts in it my dumbster then wait and deal with assholes to give shit away. Just like your rota wheel I know and you know it was not about the money You did not pick up a overnight crack addiction you just wanted them out of your way.
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I guess when you work IN the industry you used to call a hobby, it no longer is a hobby. its work. I met a lot of cool people working at Mainstream and Batlground and owning Kiddracing, but that was far overshadowed by the complete and absolute morons i came in contact with. I did it for so long cars just ceased to become fun. It became a job. And when you hear some of the ignorant stupid shit that comes out of peoples mouths, you get turned off by it.
Im not arrogant im stating a fact. I believe im an educated man, im a smart person, i can argue and debate , understand issues with the best of them. When you are in contact with people you constantly have to try and teach or hold a mediocre conversation with, its pretty mind numbing.
I guess what im saying is that most people move through phases in life. They grow up, they learn from their mistakes, etc. i was probably just as stupid and dumb as a lot of the kids i make fun of, but i grew out of it. I moved on. So i dont want to associate with those people anymore, and if they are my age, then i want nothing to do with them if they still act like they are 21.
Silversol is right about the meets aspect. Honda/Acura kids breed thieves, and low lifes. its cause the cars are CHEAP to start with. anyone can buy a $2000 civic and slap a $50 fart can on it and go act a fool. Because its so cheap, theres a huge amount of them. Vettes START at $10,000+ not anyone can go buy them (although every car group has its share of retards).
It goes back to and old saying my grandfather used to say, you are who your friends are. You are the company you keep. If you associate with a bunch of riced out civics, chances are your no better than they are. That happened to me about 2 years ago, i looked at myself and realized i was "friends" with a bunch of loser, no education, rejects who were going nowhere in life, who only hung out with me because i had money. And when i say i had money i mean i had a job that paid more than minimum wage. They brought around other people that were equal as losers, who cared more about spending EVERY DIME they had on a Civic, or G35 they could barely afford, than furthering their stature in life.
Id rather have a bank account full of money and a 95 toyota camry, than be broke with a K SERIES CIVIC Y0!. I didnt always used to be that way. I used to have a $10,000 88 CRX and eat ramen noodles.
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Mike, when did you start doin stuff in IT, or was it always some shit you did on the low low?
If you think the domestic/classic world is free of idiots and assholes, you haven't been in the domestic/classic world long enough. Lol. They and the import world started off in the exact same place.
like i said, every group has its dumbasses. Look at Thacker
But theres far more Honda/Acura/LOWER COST IMPORTS retards than the others. I cant tell you how many times ive driven down the highway and had some mexican or white trash kid roll up next to me in his flat black race car to "RUN ME" in bumper to bumper traffic.
I dont run across many Vette/Mustang/EVO/STI "kids" that act that retarded.
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So we should divide IA into two site one regular and the othe Adult ImportAtlanta. Members 25+ can only join ? lollike i said, every group has its dumbasses. Look at Thacker
But theres far more Honda/Acura/LOWER COST IMPORTS retards than the others. I cant tell you how many times ive driven down the highway and had some mexican or white trash kid roll up next to me in his flat black race car to "RUN ME" in bumper to bumper traffic.
I dont run across many Vette/Mustang/EVO/STI "kids" that act that retarded.
no because age doesnt always reflect maturity.
Blank.cd for all our disagreements can hold a conversation outside of "cool wheels bro". We always argue political views in the other forum, while i may disagree with him, he demonstrates he has a higher level of learning. To me at least.
I dont think anyone should segragate anyone, i just think the younger crowd needs to set their standards HIGHER. Associate with better people, quit being followers and start being leaders regardless of what other people think.
Like i said, my old roomate took a PIECE OF SHIT 1992 LS400 Lexus, slammed it on the shittiest coilovers he could find for the cheapest, bought $450 KNOCKOFF BWM wheels off ebay, and put some CHINESE tires that cost $90 a piece for 19s, and people actually thought that was "building a car" and it was "cool". most of those kids hang out at starbucks on barrett. I dont know who is worse, the guy who built the car, or the kids that think its cool.
Both show how idiotic and stupid the "scene" has become
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There are idiots and asshole in all "clicks" But they are few and far between compared to the imports clicks. I dont think the guy in the 69mach1 or the 68 fastback mustang is going to start cutting donuts around my car in the car shop parking lot. Im willing to bet my lunch the guy parked in front of me in the 69 camaro is not going to try to show off his drift skills in the car show parking lot. Becase they have the same respect for my car as I do for their car.
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Those guys are just a different kind of asshole. They're the "my car is better than yours because I paid 40k for it and it's already done, you have a piece of shit" kind of asshole.
I have yet to run into those guys in the 15 years I have been going. Once again I see that in the import world. If anything a unrestored survior muscle car will draw a crowd at a car show from alll the guys that are restoring their car to how it came from the factory, Becase alot of paint marks clips and little things that make or break a restoration is not in the books or online!
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I can honestly say I've never ran across a classic car enthusiast with the attitude that mine is better because I spent more. In most cases they understand and value all the time and effort you put into your car because they themselves have done it. If a car is done right regardless of make and model appreciate it for what it is. If your car happens to be a piece if shit with a fart can and slammed on DOODOO wheels don't expect any compliments. Unfortunately this is more and more the direction the import scene is heading in which is why a lot of folks have bailed on it. When did it become cool to do this veal to your cars? At what point did we stop using proper English and complete sentences to communicate on here? Apparently I missed that particular shift in the scene. Where is the pride people used to take in doing things the right way. If your car is an extension if who you are what does yours say about you? I guess I'm just to old to understand anymore.
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I think what goes on here and the typical Import Alliance meets is indicative of only a small portion of what goes on really. If I choose to hang out in a parking lot with a bunch of high schoolers and their cars, I dont expect to have a conversation about stocks, 401ks, and nest eggs. For me anyways, I go to see dumb shit and people hit poles with their cars LOL I honestly havent had time or energy on the weekends to go out though lately, but I still will go to an import meet because I have friends there and I do like seeing and talking to some of the owners of other cars. I occasionally get someone that comes up and asks about mine, thats what it really is about. Plus, I dont limit myself to this site. I hang out with the S197 (newer Mustang) guys, and most of them are about my age and if not older, quite a few of them hold jobs in law enforcement, and public safety such as firefighting, its just a matter of what group you choose to hang with, but I dont want to come on here all high and mighty and say that Im better than anyone just because they dont drive a nicer car or have the education level as someone else. At the end of the day we all can agree we love cars, boobs, and anything related to the prior.
Speaking of hitting poles with there cars, sometimes they miss and hit yours.
Your local gwinnett sonic meet...
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yeah i totally wanna hang out with those asshats LOL
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What kind of car did he hit?? One of them was saying it was the most expensive car out there, I cant believe that guy didnt whoop his ass!!!
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I dont expect that either, but eventually, you HAVE to grow out of the "im here to see some awesome CRXs" phase dont you? I mean you went from that cougar body kitted out that we all laugh about now to a much more expensive car, and much more tasteful right? dont you agree you grew out of that phase?
dont you think that your tastes at 18 have changed 10 years later? you shouldnt be hanging out with the same crowd at 18 as when youre 30........not IMO. I get what you are saying sometimes you just have to take it for what it is, but some people also cant seperate it. I guess im one of those. I guess when i started going to meets and started going "WHY AM I HERE" is when it stopped being fun for me. I also worked IN the industry so maybe that changes things too.
I wasnt bad mouthing you or people that still go to the varsity per se, im just saying that eventually people HAVE to move on, grow up, start doing other things. or transition their tastes to something different.
Which is fine, but i got tired of the 60000000 people showing up, not being able to park, people starting fights, guns being pulled, cops booting cars for what? So you could look at a few cars you have seen a billion times already? you may get enjoyment because you have a car people like and talk to you about, but if youre like me and just have a DD, it stopped being fun. IMO of course.For me anyways, I go to see dumb shit and people hit poles with their cars LOL
I guess thats where i differ, i dont have any friends into cars anymore. I became friends with people that dont care about cars, but share other interests like sports and such. So i have no ties to there anymore.I honestly havent had time or energy on the weekends to go out though lately, but I still will go to an import meet because I have friends there and I do like seeing and talking to some of the owners of other cars.
Which i wasnt saying. Just because you say "the majority of the Honda?Acura/import scene has people that are of lower intelligence isnt being mean, thats just the truth. It adds up if you look at the things that Travis and i posted about. Julio said so too. you said yourself you go to meets to see the dumb shit people will do, so you kinda agree with me.I occasionally get someone that comes up and asks about mine, thats what it really is about. Plus, I dont limit myself to this site. I hang out with the S197 (newer Mustang) guys, and most of them are about my age and if not older, quite a few of them hold jobs in law enforcement, and public safety such as firefighting, its just a matter of what group you choose to hang with, but I dont want to come on here all high and mighty and say that Im better than anyone just because they dont drive a nicer car or have the education level as someone else.
Im not being high and mighty at all , and im not only friends with people that make XXXXXX dollars or have XXXXXXX education. What i mean is, most people in life start off at PLACE A and work their way up and onward. They transition from low to high. The car scene from my experience, and many others, seems to have a certain floor when it comes to brains, and that floor is set low. As most of us get older, wiser, smarter, etc, they dont seem to follow, or a vast majority of them dont.
I tend to have friends that make the same money i do so we can enjoy the same things. when i made $XX,000 a year at Mainstream and BG i had friends that made the same amount , when i moved upward i transitioned. things change, peoples interest change.
I guess what im really starting to realize is i never really CARED about cars as much as you guys do. Im perfectly fine never modding another car again. I never cared to drag race, or track race, or auto X. Drifting was a lost sport to me. I liked street racing, but i choose not to do it because with my job my clearance could be revoked if i got arrested.
I like boobs, cars, not so much anymore.At the end of the day we all can agree we love cars, boobs, and anything related to the prior.
I think the only reason i post here anymore is because i love arguing
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Kudos.
I'm also over 25 ;-)
I ran into a Lamborghini owner a while back at a caffeine and octane meet one time. We got to talking and he mentioned how alot of ricers started showing up and ruining it for all the exotic guys. I assumed he was talking about the Evos and the STIs and the S2ks and what not because I haven't been to a C/O meet and any beat up Hondas showed up. So I told him a lot of those guys put in a lot of work building those cars (regardless of what they looked like) and you kinda just wrote a fat check and got an out-of-the-box race car. Lol
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Last C\O meeting I went to I saw quite a few Hondas and some other crappy stuff ... Saw a couple of real nice s2000's,STI,Evo's and a few others..
If I could drop the money on a high end, I would.... Mostly anyone would for that matter.
Mike and Travis keep adding nails to the coffin... I have a friend who's 22 has a real nice g35.. Ad I ask him if he goes to meets ? He says.. He doesn't like the crowd.. Mostly because of what has been mentioned in this thread. And he's only 22... and he sees it.
Bottom line is, if you have to attend car meets to be a car enthusiast.. I will continue to laugh at that.
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They should have kept an Archives of old threads and you can look back at your old threads or someone elses to find something or look up something. BUT THEY WERE ALL DELETED!now there's no OG THREADS. But I still like IA sometimes. Seems people have gotten a lil raunchy with comments and I guess everyone is bitter when it comes to anything modded between 80-2005. I guess its been done before or it just doesn't pop anymore. It's like watching alot of porn, and trying to have sex with your wife later on that day. It's kinda hard cuz she's not popping like she use too.
Whew well thats all I have. Love you guys. CLASS OF 06(sign up date for IA that is)
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