Quote Originally Posted by SleepingTalon
This is not what you were arguing. You were arguing about the level of instruction, and with many pro fighters who made it to the UFC/WEC, the level of instruction has definitely been on par with many places. Many fighters in this state train with one another. I've trained with Jeff Bedard, who brought Sean Sherk down with him, and Paul Creighton, who brought Matt Serra in. That's what fighters do, it's not uncommon. It's not like the people I mentioned owe their entire BJJ and MT games to Alliance. Alliance is a top notch place, but what you're suggesting is simply not true.

I'm simply suggesting that KU does not produce champions, in anything. Again, i will state, the "top notch" fighters you claim at KU were all part of a previous training camp that converted to KU for MONEY.