either or, if the gov't is going to be bailing compaines they need to oversee these compaines. I don't agree on bailing compaines out with taxpayer money, but with these important finacial instiutions failing some had to step in or this country as a whole would be fukedOriginally Posted by Capt._Ron
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well looks like im taking 1k out of my 4k in a savings account and investing it in thestock marketing... i just hope if i do this that i will be able to make a nice little profit in a few years... anyone got any pointers on a good stock brocker?
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It's threads like these tha everyone is panicking and selling off.
yeah cause the DOW dropping 600 points is not cause to panic LOL
I mean its just to show everyone how important this election is.
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So.. theres a nice rally going on right now. Things seem to be back where they were last week. I told some of you to buy but oh well..
it aint over, its because of the talks of the Debt Repository
NEW YORK - Wall Street had a stunning late-session turnaround Thursday, shooting higher and hurtling the Dow Jones industrials up more than 400 points after a report that the federal government may create an entity that will take over banks' bad debt.
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The report on CNBC said Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is considering the formation of an entity like the Resolution Trust Corp. that was set up after the failure of savings and loan banks in the 1980s.
Investors were cheered by the notion of a huge federal intervention like the establishment of RTC to acquire the real estate debt that has hobbled financial institutions and led to the intense volatility in the markets this week.
If there's an RTC-like entity, "it's going to take a lot of the bad debt off the balance sheets of these companies," said Scott Fullman, director of derivatives investment strategy for WJB Capital Group in New York. That would alleviate many of the pressures causing the credit crisis, he said, and open up the credit markets again. But Fullman noted, "the devil's in the details."
"Bear markets are very sensitive to news. And on a scale of 1 to 10, this one is a 13," he said.
In late afternoon trading, the Dow soared 411.66, or 3.88 percent, to 11,021.32.
Broader stock indicators also jumped. The Standard & Poor's 500 index rose 48.85, or 4.22 percent, to 1,205.24, and the Nasdaq composite index advanced 95.07, or 4.53 percent, to 2,193.92.
The report of a broader government bailout proved more reassuring to investors than moves before the opening bell Thursday by the Federal Reserve and other major central banks to inject as much as $180 billion into global money markets. The moves were an attempt to keep the credit crisis from worsening; the Fed added another $55 billion in overnight loans Thursday.
Grinding gears in the world's credit markets have driven up the cost of borrowing for businesses; banks have become hesitant to make loans even to other banks for fear of what institutions might be hobbled by soured debt. Investors are also contending with fears that more big-name financial companies could falter.
Worry in the markets had led to speculation about the future of such major players as thrift bank Washington Mutual Inc. and investment bank Morgan Stanley. Media reports have been saying that Wells Fargo & Co. and Citigroup Inc. are interested in a possible takeover of Washington Mutual; and a person familiar with the negotiations said Morgan Stanley and Wachovia Corp. are in talks about a possible combination. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the talks are ongoing.
"We're seeing a tremendous amount of nervousness. That nervousness is leading to volatility," said Anthony Conroy, head trader for BNY ConvergEx Group. He said the markets hadn't seen as much fractiousness since the 1920s.
Advancing issues outnumbered decliners by more than 2 to 1 on the New York Stock Exchange, where volume came to 1.85 billion shares. Trading remained heavy as it has all week amid investors' fears about the well-being of the financial system. But observers said traders were positioning themselves ahead of Friday's "quadruple witching," which marks the simultaneous expiration of four types of options contracts and can exacerbate volatility.
Investors shying from the risks of stocks turned to government-backed debt. On Wednesday, the 3-month Treasury bill — considered one of the safest short-duration assets — saw demand surge so high that its yield briefly dipped into negative territory for the first time since 1940. Investors are so focused on parking their money in safe assets that they're willing to take very little return on such investments.
The prices for short-duration Treasurys fell from Wednesday's levels. But the yield on the 3-month T-bill was still extremely low at 0.19 percent — up from 0.2 percent late Wednesday, but well below its yield of 1.60 percent just a week ago.
Longer-term bond prices fell. The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note, which moves opposite its price, rose to 3.51 percent from 3.42 percent late Wednesday.
Investors also continued a move into other safe havens. Gold rose again Thursday, up $50.20 to $900.70 an ounce on the New York Mercantile Exchange after posting its largest ever one-day price jump Wednesday.
Oil shot up early in the day, moving back above $100 as investors sought it as another haven. But crude fell back with the market's realization that the financial turmoil will likely exacerbate the drop in demand that has taken oil down sharply from its July record of $147.27 a barrel.
Light, sweet crude on the Nymex rose 72 cents to settle at $97.88 a barrel.
"We are in uncharted territory," said Linda Duessel, the equity market strategist at Federated Investors. "The seriousness and the size of this fallout has been underestimated from the beginning. It's most disconcerting what's going on in the credit market."
Investors remained jittery throughout Thursday's session. The Chicago Board Options Exchange's volatility index, known as the VIX, set a new high for the year in trading Thursday. Often referred to as the "fear index," the VIX at times rose to levels not seen since October 2002. But the VIX retreated after the report a government plan for bad bank debt.
Some market observers say a reading of more than 40 is necessary before the market can begin to excise its fears and carve out a rebound.
Mixed economic readings drew little attention as investors focused on the financials and the credit markets.
The Labor Department reported that initial claims for unemployment benefits rose by 10,000 last week to 455,000, due primarily to Louisiana's job losses from Hurricane Gustav. And the Philadelphia Fed said its regional manufacturing report improved to a 3.8 in September from a negative 12.7 in August. It marks the first positive reading since November.
Among financials, Morgan Stanley rose $2.15, or 10 percent, to $23.90 as the investment bank sought a buyer or cash infusion to shore up its flagging share price. The stock has fallen 38 percent in the past week following Monday's bankruptcy filing at rival Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and a forced sale of Merrill Lynch & Co. to Bank of America Corp.
The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies rose 40.38, or 5.97 percent, to 716.76.
Overseas, Japan's Nikkei stock average dropped 2.22 percent to its lowest closing level in over three years. Hong Kong's Hang Seng index lost 0.03 percent.
Britain's FTSE 100 fell 0.66 percent, Germany's DAX index rose 0.04 percent, and France's CAC-40 fell 1.06 percent.
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SIgh...
Its "news"..they do this all the time. They simply have a leak or press release of some sort to make things better.
Every international exchange does this. Nothing is fixed at all, even the Dow being up 400.
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lol Thats perfectly fine.. honestly if someone feels now is the time to sell it doesn't bother me one bit to be right or wrong on this subject.
Better yet.. keep selling, I'm enjoying the bargains.
i got one thing to say mccain and the milf ftmfw yo
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Yup. Returns have fluctuated but I've seen absolutely nothing to worry about.
Business as usual, folks.
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Bought a Ducati, been playing around with it.
Insurance company isn't wanting to pay me $34,000 for mods that I had in the Z06 (on top of value of the car) so my lawyer is fighting with them about it.
Other than that, just chillin. Waiting to snag a good deal on a C6Z or hang tight a while longer for a 997 turbo.
I saw it a while back in the lot up the street...
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The Z06 or the Ducati?
Z06 has been gone for about 3.5 months now.
This is what's been holding me over:
Already got the fender eliminator kit and tucked the plate back behind the tire. Looks way cleaner now.
The z06, thats how it looked pretty much..
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So purdy, me want!!! (bike)The Z06 or the Ducati?
Z06 has been gone for about 3.5 months now.
This is what's been holding me over:
Already got the fender eliminator kit and tucked the plate back behind the tire. Looks way cleaner now.
What happened to the z06? It was so purdy also.
Still brings a tear to the eye.
Ah well, that's life. You know how it goes... time to move on to bigger and better things.
Some guy ran a red light taking his kids to daycare. Hit me in the driver's side door (duh). Kids weren't even crying and I didn't have my seatbelt on. Walked right out of it with a small bump on my head.
Is everything still falling apart? Just curious of those who say it is..
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