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    If he would have stayed, he obviously wouldn't have gotten the hit and run charges and the vehicular homicide could be made arguable. Actually, if he gets a good enough lawyer, he can possibly get out of the vehicular homicide. The reason being it was a large SUV, the driver did lose control, and the possibility that the passengers weren't wearing seatbelts.

    We know it sucks, but ALL the blame cannot be put on the Acura driver. But I do hope he gets prosecuted for all his charges to prove a point for all the other morons that go way too fast on 85, and it's not just the japanese car drivers, I've seen BMW's and other cars go in excess of 100mph weaving in and out on I-85 and I-75.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDCoconut
    If he would have stayed, he obviously wouldn't have gotten the hit and run charges and the vehicular homicide could be made arguable. Actually, if he gets a good enough lawyer, he can possibly get out of the vehicular homicide. The reason being it was a large SUV, the driver did lose control, and the possibility that the passengers weren't wearing seatbelts.

    We know it sucks, but ALL the blame cannot be put on the Acura driver. But I do hope he gets prosecuted for all his charges to prove a point for all the other morons that go way too fast on 85, and it's not just the japanese car drivers, I've seen BMW's and other cars go in excess of 100mph weaving in and out on I-85 and I-75.
    That bolded part, while correct, is not an argument. All that needs to be proven is that he acted in a reckless manner. Multiple independent witness statements plus the police investigation should prove this beyond a reasonable doubt.

    I do not believe that it is state law to wear seatbelts in a limo-type vehicle, either.

    I believe that the evidence will show that the SUV lost control because it was side-swiped by the RSX...time will tell on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner
    That bolded part, while correct, is not an argument. All that needs to be proven is that he acted in a reckless manner. Multiple independent witness statements plus the police investigation should prove this beyond a reasonable doubt.

    I do not believe that it is state law to wear seatbelts in a limo-type vehicle, either.

    I believe that the evidence will show that the SUV lost control because it was side-swiped by the RSX...time will tell on that one.
    I think states should reconsider laws regarding seatbelts, and especially the use of child safety seats, in limos.

    From the way the police sketch is drawn, there doesn't seem to be any way that the RSX caused the Limo to flip. That Limo outweighed the RSX by 3x, easily. Physics says, Limo wins, no matter where or how fast the RSX hit it. If the Limo was going 60mph, the RSX would have to be moving at 180mph to have an equal amount of momentum. Driver of the limo appears to have cranked the wheel to the right to try and avoid a collision. Although it's a natural instinct, it's probably the primary trigger for the rollover. So there is a degree of separation between the RSX hitting the Limo and the cause for rollover. Like you said, only time will tell how it is interpreted by the court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunky
    I think states should reconsider laws regarding seatbelts, and especially the use of child safety seats, in limos.

    From the way the police sketch is drawn, there doesn't seem to be any way that the RSX caused the Limo to flip. That Limo outweighed the RSX by 3x, easily. Physics says, Limo wins, no matter where or how fast the RSX hit it. If the Limo was going 60mph, the RSX would have to be moving at 180mph to have an equal amount of momentum. Driver of the limo appears to have cranked the wheel to the right to try and avoid a collision. Although it's a natural instinct, it's probably the primary trigger for the rollover. So there is a degree of separation between the RSX hitting the Limo and the cause for rollover. Like you said, only time will tell how it is interpreted by the court.
    IF the RSX hit the SUV, it could cause the SUV to swerve and then flip very easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner
    IF the RSX hit the SUV, it could cause the SUV to swerve and then flip very easily.
    I wouldn't say very easily. The SUV limo, even a regular expedition, has a relatively long wheelbase and a lot of momentum. Even if the RSX clipped it on the front corner going 120mph, the SUV would run it over, but not flip. A rollover is almost always the result of a driver cranking the wheel and slamming on the brakes, causing the front tire to give way and the rim of the wheel to dig into the pavement initiating the rollover.

    The only way the impact could have initiated the rollover would be if the rsx hit the SUV directly on the front suspension and broke something causing the front of the SUV to dig in initiating a roll over. That doesn't appear to have been the case though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDCoconut
    Actually, if he gets a good enough lawyer, he can possibly get out of the vehicular homicide. The reason being it was a large SUV, the driver did lose control, and the possibility that the passengers weren't wearing seatbelts.
    Quote Originally Posted by IDCoconut
    We know it sucks, but ALL the blame cannot be put on the Acura driver.
    Why not? If he were driving like he was suppose to and obaying the laws, 4 people wouldnt have lost their life. End of discussion.

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