FWD-RWD-AWD

[hondachik]

audi's ftw!!

[Got Milk?]

And they laugh at you the other 364 days a year.

I voted RWD, its way more fun. I love my AWD but sometimes I'd like to be able to play around more with it on pavement.

laugh at me for what? cus my car is a FWD? explain?

[Deke]

I've had RWD and AWD, and I've got to say I'm a fan of traction. It does suck sometimes not being able to unleash a little frustration on my rear tires (RWD cars have a higher fun factor), but for a car that I drive daily and get into all sorts of different on-road situations, I'm very happy to have AWD.

[EJ25RUN]

Allot of you guys are forgetting (ok most of you don't know) about Class II FWD touring cars from the mid to late 90's......

They can and have beaten RWD and AWD cars on the track and cost Formula 1 like budgets to make so they died out around the year 2000!

[Got Milk?]

allot of you guys are forgetting (ok most of you don't know) about Class II fwd touring cars from the mid to late 90's......They can and have beaten RWD and AWD cars on the track. AND cost Formula 1 like budgets to make!

FACTS FTW

[Got Milk?]

ohh, and i voted AWD FTW!

[RandomGuy]

wheres side wheel drive ?

[Got Milk?]

wheres side wheel drive ?

[matthewAPM]

wheres side wheel drive ?

my car>RWD>FWD>AWD

[Got Milk?]

my car>RWD>FWD>AWD

U tell them champ.

[Jecht]

Different cars and setups are better entirely depending on the situation. For me, I love RWD for fun, FWD for more mundane tasks. But I had a lot of traction issues in my old S13 that I simply don't get from my FWD Jetta (that and the fact that it is slow as ****).

FWD can basically be made to function just as well as RWD cars, and if you've ever been to an autocross event, you should know this already. The CRX is one of the more popular and better performing cars in it's class in Solo.

[matthewAPM]

U tell them champ.

LMAO. put it this way, if the others were faster, why dont they use them in F1, LMS, ALMS, etc.

[matthewAPM]

Different cars and setups are better entirely depending on the situation. For me, I love RWD for fun, FWD for more mundane tasks. But I had a lot of traction issues in my old S13 that I simply don't get from my FWD Jetta (that and the fact that it is slow as ****).

FWD can basically be made to function just as well as RWD cars, and if you've ever been to an autocross event, you should know this already. The CRX is one of the more popular and better performing cars in it's class in Solo.

like i said, look at the results from points 1... STS/STS2 FTW

BTW, we are on street tires and open diff

[Thighs]

open diff = one wheel drive. lol

[Got Milk?]

like i said, look at the results from points 1... STS/STS2 FTW

BTW, we are on street tires and open diff

autocross champ tire there. (i hate ur amazing driving skills)

[matthewAPM]

autocross champ tire there. (i hate ur amazing driving skills)

my amazing driving skills? hmm if i was "amazing" i would have won.

champ tire?

[Got Milk?]

my amazing driving skills? hmm if i was "amazing" i would have one.

champ tire?

wanted to spell rite there..to lazy to go back and correct my mistakes.

[Got Milk?]

by the way, how many times did u win the autocross? 3 times i hear.

[man]

Allot of you guys are forgetting (ok most of you don't know) about Class II FWD touring cars from the mid to late 90's......

They can and have beaten RWD and AWD cars on the track and cost Formula 1 like budgets to make so they died out around the year 2000!

So for a F1 budget you would rather have a FWD honda than, say, an ACTUAL F1 car? I wonder which is faster...

I would say this just PROVES the point that RWD is the way to go.

[matthewAPM]

by the way, how many times did u win the autocross? 3 times i hear.

how can u win the same thing 3 times? im not going to argue with a dumbass...

So for a F1 budget you would rather have a FWD honda than, say, an ACTUAL F1 car? I wonder which is faster...

I would say this just PROVES the point that RWD is the way to go.

LMAO. put it this way, if the others were faster, why dont they use them in F1, LMS, ALMS, etc.

[man]

im not going to argue with a dumbass...

Step away from the mirror then, lol

[Got Milk?]

how can u win the same thing 3 times? im not going to argue with a dumbass...

lol idk, i guess you go the next year, and next year, and next year. And that makes it 3 rimes?

[matthewAPM]

Step away from the mirror then, lol

lol

[Jecht]

ITT: people arguing over drivetrain setups and how they stereotype each one.

[blackshine007]

umm no. thats y there is no FWD drift cars. when u hit the gas, it pushes.

but yes, FWD is very fast... look at the autocross results from points 1

I know quite a few guys who would disagree with you. With an open differential due to the power being transfered to the wheel with the least resistance, naturally it's gonna be the on the corner with the lesser of loads, which, naturally cause the inside tire to spin and leave the remaining tire on that axle as the wheel providing the grip. But due to weight and all laws of gravity and inertia, it's gonna keep pushing forward due to that outer tire taking so much load. RWD vehicles has can do the same thing. RWD vehicles aren't always capable of oversteer. Most factory vehicles that has come with an open differential can quite easily understeer. Honda's torque biased LSD is a system that is quite neat, which was first seen on the Prelude type SH. Being electronicly controlled, when cornering, it sends most of the engine's power to the outside wheel to try to match the wheel speeds of inner. The results of that is that there's way more grip available due to both wheels trying to spin at the same speed.

Like I said, depending upon suspension set up, if you stay on the gas the front tires won't really break loose but there's a great possibilty that the rears will. And I take it you don't go on youtube that often.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOASjjpRnXk

[matthewAPM]

I know quite a few guys who would disagree with you. With an open differential due to the power being transfered to the wheel with the least resistance, naturally it's gonna be the on the corner with the lesser of loads, which, naturally cause the inside tire to spin and leave the remaining tire on that axle as the wheel providing the grip. But due to weight and all laws of gravity and inertia, it's gonna keep pushing forward due to that outer tire taking so much load. RWD vehicles has can do the same thing. RWD vehicles aren't always capable of oversteer. Most factory vehicles that has come with an open differential can quite easily understeer. Honda's torque biased LSD is a system that is quite neat, which was first seen on the Prelude type SH. Being electronicly controlled, when cornering, it sends most of the engine's power to the outside wheel to try to match the wheel speeds of inner. The results of that is that there's way more grip available due to both wheels trying to spin at the same speed.

Like I said, depending upon suspension set up, if you stay on the gas the front tires won't really break loose but there's a great possibilty that the rears will. And I take it you don't go on youtube that often.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOASjjpRnXk

are you seriously telling me this? the rear will break loose before the front when on the power? HAHA. if thats true, come show me in my car. for a FWD, think "lift to drift".

[blackshine007]

EF chassis' are different. There's a great chance it won't break loose due to it's weight. Like I mentioned, your suspension has alot to do with how the rear does as well. The the words "snap oversteer" come into mind? The cars that's based on my chassis (mx6, ford probe) is known for doing that. My first 626 done it (unexpectedly) and I ran into a tree (unfamiliar with that road being foolish). I'm pretty sure it could do it now while taking a corner though I'm not planning on taking my car to it's limits any time soon. Even the EM type R's can break loose too. Watch another vid, please...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfqN_DDkppc

[0p7!mu5]

i've driven both i love fwd but damn yo rwd made my old 323 look like a champ from the piece of crap it was..

[matthewAPM]

EF chassis' are different. There's a great chance it won't break loose due to it's weight. Like I mentioned, your suspension has alot to do with how the rear does as well. The the words "snap oversteer" come into mind? The cars that's based on my chassis (mx6, ford probe) is known for doing that. My first 626 done it (unexpectedly) and I ran into a tree (unfamiliar with that road being foolish). I'm pretty sure it could do it now while taking a corner though I'm not planning on taking my car to it's limits any time soon. Even the EM type R's can break loose too. Watch another vid, please...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfqN_DDkppc

im not a ****ing idiot. i know what a FWD car does and what it doesnt. EF chassis are different? it breaks loose in the rear because of my setup and NO wieght in the rear.

"snap oversteer" is when a car "snaps" loose on you. general from tires breaking loose. your car is not the only one that has oversteer. drive really fast around a corner, lift off the gas and tell me what happens....

i push my car to the limit almost every weekend and can tell you exactly what will happen. i also instruct at these events and have driven dozens of FWD cars and could tell you about those too. You are not going to drift a FWD car simple by applying power.

if you think you know everything about FWD's, come make my setup better than it is. I would love to see that happen

[man]

EF chassis' are different. There's a great chance it won't break loose due to it's weight. Like I mentioned, your suspension has alot to do with how the rear does as well. The the words "snap oversteer" come into mind? The cars that's based on my chassis (mx6, ford probe) is known for doing that. My first 626 done it (unexpectedly) and I ran into a tree (unfamiliar with that road being foolish). I'm pretty sure it could do it now while taking a corner though I'm not planning on taking my car to it's limits any time soon. Even the EM type R's can break loose too. Watch another vid, please...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfqN_DDkppc

So now oversteering is a good thing?

[Jecht]

So now oversteering is a good thing?

Well a little oversteer is good if you can control it because you can use it to tighten your line to get through a corner faster.

[EJ25RUN]

some people in this thread......... have no idea what their talking about.

[gijeff1805]

AWD better launching...

[man]

some people in this thread......... have no idea what their talking about.

Agreed

[On_Her_Face]

rear wheel drive is the most fun, awd is fun too

[matthewAPM]

Well a little oversteer is good if you can control it because you can use it to tighten your line to get through a corner faster.

correct. its called slip angle.

some people in this thread......... have no idea what their talking about.

lol. +1.

[EM1toEVO]

I've had all three, and I prefer AWD.

[Echonova]

I'm thinking Arby's.

[turborodarry]

awd is only good for cyclones, fwd for nothing and rwd owns all

[EM1toEVO]

I'm thinking Arby's.

I see the little cowboy hat over your avatar, lol!