Gun control works, right? WRONG!!!!

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Chris Rock said it best...

and that is the fuckin truth!!! +2 for u dude

[Ed]

that chart does not represent the total numbers. it is a ratio per 100,000 people, so it is apples to apples

i see, i wasnt so sure about it, and didnt wanna sound like an ass. thanks for correcting me. +1 if i can.

[Tasuki_Civic]

people kill people... dumb shit.

agreed

i dont know if dc did what kennasaw did would have the same outcome. Reason being is because how many percent of black people live in kennasaw? DC has a shit load of them. Like i mean almost every house there is full with black people, violent ones at that or theyre just drug addicts. If those people were forced to have guns i dont think the crime rate in dc would drop i think it would raise in that kind of place.

lol
clearly...
you've got issue

[Ed]

lol
clearly...
you've got issue

an issue with niggas...

[Jaimecbr900]

^^^^^^^^^^
Gun control doesn't work (can never work) when it is still easy to get guns illegally.

You're playing with words. It's an oxymoron. Guns will NEVER be able to be kept out of the hands of ANY determined CRIMINAL. CRIMINAL is the key word here. Look at drugs as an example. They are illegal and have been for eons. Has consumption gone down? NO. Has trafficking stopped? NO. Has "drug related" crimes gone down? NO. So exactly what has the fact that drugs are "illegal" done to better the drug situation? Absolutely nothing. Why? Because the consumers, in this case drug users, don't give two dead fucks about it being legal or illegal. They want it, so they go get it. Same exact thing happens with illegal gun purchases. The criminal doesn't give a rat's behind what the laws of the land are, after all he/she just breaks them or they wouldn't be a "criminal", so they go and get whatever it is that they need. As a matter of fact, most of the time is at crack head prices you nor I could ever dream of getting when we bought our guns at the store.

So the answer has nothing to do with the obvious. Guns will always find their way into the hands of someone who shouldn't have one. Sometimes the best offense is a good defense.

But there is no way you can compare the inner city to the suburbs or the mtns (totally different surrounding).

Why not? Is someone less dead in the city than when they die in the suburbs? Is rape different when it's performed in the inner city as opposed to the burbs? Do the cars in the inner city have less wheels and run on different gas than in the burbs? So exactly what is the "difference" as it relates to crime rates?

I guess I am one of those ppl that believe crime is related to poverty, education,and the community.

How?

[Tasuki_Civic]

i dunno about this topic....i've been robbed twice and once with an ak.

i really don't mind people having guns to protect themselves lol i getting my first one sooner than i know ...maybe it would be best if they cracked down on having a quota on how many times you go to the range to practice. so at least the people who have guns know how to shoot them. then it mite lessen the chances of another person getting shot...by accident. i dunno it may sound stupid it was only a thought.

but along with every rule and reason people abuse them to hurt innocent people. so who knows if gun control would work or not in certain areas.

[Tasuki_Civic]

an issue with niggas...

uuum ...ok

[Tasuki_Civic]

You're playing with words. It's an oxymoron.

you cant always speak factually jaime. you dont know the exact numbers and progress of drugs and guns. many people have their own opinions about things. the government and and police dont disclose all information about each area in the US or in georgia.

dont forget their job is to hide things and show only what they want us to see.

i cant agree completely with you but i understand your argument.

[Jaimecbr900]

I'm going to have to break down your post because it made no sense to me.

you cant always speak factually jaime.

About what?

you dont know the exact numbers and progress of drugs and guns. many people have their own opinions about things.

Huh?

the government and and police dont disclose all information about each area in the US or in georgia.

Yes they do and there are other agencies that keep up with crime statistics. Besides that, what's your point?

dont forget their job is to hide things and show only what they want us to see.

OMG, not the super conspiracy theory of "the man trying to keep us down" again.... Exactly WHO are you talking about here?

i cant agree completely with you but i understand your argument.

I don't think you understood at all.

Washington D.C.=have the most restrictive gun laws in the country
Washington D.C.= doesn't want those laws anymore.
Washington D.C.= city officials say that they HAVE TO keep the old laws to keep crime down.
Washington D.C.= one of the most violent cities in the whole country already.
Washington D.C.= in 30 yrs of "no guns" has not been able to control it's crime.

Kennessaw GA= small city in GA that grew from 5K to 20K.
Kennessaw GA= in order to help keep crime down in a city that exponentially grew they adopted a mandatory gun law in every house.
Kennessaw GA= REDUCTION in crime rate by 75% the FIRST YEAR AFTER the law passed.
Kennessaw GA= ANOTHER 45% DECREASE the second year.
Kennessaw GA= Murder rate almost non-existant. Robbery almost non-existant.
Kennessaw GA= Population STILL GROWING.


Everyone of those things are FACTS. What is there to argue about? When the criminals are the only ones left holding the guns, what do you think is going to happen? Crime will get better or worse? It's simple common sense. Criminals don't want to get shot. Criminals want to get in, do their deed, and get out without any static. That's the nature of their plans. Guns, dogs, bright lights, alarms, etc. don't play into that plan at all and that is why people and property that have those safeguards in place stand an exponentially better chance to be passed up as a target. That's a FACT.

Get it now?

[Tasuki_Civic]

uuum.... yeea u misused the words i said. this topic is all you love. i dont feel like being detailed with you or explaining what i meant. if you didnt understand what i said. so be it.


you always like to be right.

so here you go......YOUR RIGHT.

[Leadfoot_mf]

uuum.... yeea u misused the words i said. this topic is all you love. i dont feel like being detailed with you or explaining what i meant. if you didnt understand what i said. so be it.


you always like to be right.

so here you go......YOUR RIGHT.

and you always have to add your stupid 2 cents to everything sometime you should just click the red x at the top right corner and go about your day.

[Jaimecbr900]

uuum.... yeea u misused the words i said.

That's probably because they were written like this:


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this topic is all you love.

Actually, I love my wife, my children, my family, a nice juicy steak, sex, driving fast, looking at fine women, a good baseball game, playing baseball, shooting guns, relaxing, spending time with my kids, teaching someone something new, photography......I have lots of loves my dear. Debating gun control with uninformed people is certainly NOT one of them.

i dont feel like being detailed with you or explaining what i meant. if you didnt understand what i said. so be it.

Ok.

you always like to be right.

Who doesn't?

so here you go......YOUR RIGHT.

Thank you, but I knew that already. Glad you learned something today though....

[Stormhammer]

random gun law question

but

is there any GA law that would prevent me ( being 20 ) from buying one of those .50 caliber rifles from a gun show?

[Tasuki_Civic]

Thank you,goodjob:

aha im surprised you took that as a compliment.

and you always have to add your stupid 2 cents to everything sometime you should just click the red x at the top right corner and go about your day.

LOL you act worse then some of these females on ia. lol hush boy.

[yudalicious]

I think, if there's one thing that's for sure, though, is that poverty is HIGHLY correlated with crime rate, hence why I think the direct comparison between DC and Kennesaw is not the "end all" proof to why strict gun control fails, but if you don't want me to say apples and oranges, that's fine.

Those are some compelling stats, although looser gun control (what you are arguing for, I think) and mandatory gun ownership (the case in Kenneasw) are far from the same thing... do you propose every property owner in DC buy a gun to comply with the new law (food for thought)?

Some cities, Det, NJ cities, maybe some other cities that have less strict gun control laws than DC have just as high if not higher crime rates than DC. I'm not against your case, but I think your proposed evidence (Kennesaw) offers only weak and partial support.

*edited for clarity.

[Jaimecbr900]

aha im surprised you took that as a compliment.

And I'm surprised you're still talking at all...

I think, if there's one thing that's for sure, though, is that poverty is HIGHLY correlated with crime rate

Exactly what makes poor people more violent than anyone else? More importantly, what justification does anyone...poor or not...have to be more violent than anyone else?

I'm not arguing for looser gun control, but I am trying to make people use their brain. How does making it harder for a law abiding citizen to protect themselves help anyone but the criminals since they now know you're unarmed?

[DieselNuts]

Exactly what makes poor people more violent than anyone else? More importantly, what justification does anyone...poor or not...have to be more violent than anyone else?

I agree with you Jamie, but I think the point he is making about poor people is that 1) They have nothing to loose and everything to gain by robbing someone, and 2) The only way they can get some things (cash, jewelry, a car) Is by robbing someone, so, they do it...

[WickedIXMR]

agreed









lol
clearly...
you've got issue

Nope i dont. If you ever been to DC you would know what i mean. And i dont mean the good parts of it

[Tasuki_Civic]

Nope i dont. If you ever been to DC you would know what i mean. And i dont mean the good parts of it

ive been to dc b4. it doesnt look any different than any other city that i have been to. no matter what part of town ( city wise ) not tha country.

[WickedIXMR]

ive been to dc b4. it doesnt look any different than any other city that i have been to. no matter what part of town ( city wise ) not tha country.

Well u obviously havent been to the bad parts of it

[quickdodge®]

DC's hoods have always been known to be rough as hail. Later, QD.

[Tasuki_Civic]

Well u obviously havent been to the bad parts of it

LOL!! im sorry do you know me?
how are you going to tell me where i havent been? its one thing to know that someone has not been some where and its another to assume.


chill out....i have no reason to lie.