Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
Could you point out the difference? Both have been deemed a violation of the 4th amendment, just curious to why you think the latter isn't?
In one situation, you have an individual initiating communications with a government agency specifically looking for benefits. They do not have to seek out those benefits, nor are under any obligation to continue to seek them, if a test of any type (written, chemical, etc) is a condition of receiving those benefits.

In the other situation, you have a government agency that's is routinely found to violate rights initiating a request to attempt to find something that they can criminalize against you, and attempting to intimidate non-criminals into giving up their Constitutional rights.

The first situation doesn't currently happen to people. The second currently happens on a regular basis.

I could give you a more complex answer, but if you couldn't get this far on your own, it wouldn't help for me to explain anything more complex.