Forbes article "ways to protect yourself against Obamacare"

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The extra premiums required within the private health insurance system will handcuff many employers and their employees.

Many people already feel handcuffed to their employers for health benefits but that's another issue. Everyone knows that health benefits through employers is a WW2 relic that makes no sense in the current environment.

You will likely see something in the nature of a 25% increase in premiums to cover the millions of long term, high cost pre existing conditions. Think of how many thousands of healthy customers that only get their monthly birth control and check-ups it will take to cover someone with cancer. Remember, that cancer patient cannot be charged more for their coverage than a healthy customer.

But you still haven't answered why a 25% increase in premiums is worse than an increase in taxes to pay for the same people's health coverage through medicare.

Millions more will be added to medicare and medicaid anyways. Using income based premiums will simply be a way offset some of the costs. Even doubling medicare taxes will not cost tax payers as much as the insurance mandate will.

By offset the costs, you mean rich people will bear the burden (since you are saying income based premiums). The price of treatment doesn't change much. An MRI is still an MRI whether private insurance pays for it or medicare does.

And I will repeat, there is nothing in Obamacare that will lower costs at any level of the healthcare system.

Why do you keep repeating this. I have already said I agree and you and I are the only ones still in here discussing this.

I dont think there is a way to fix Obamacare.

We weren't talking about fixing Obamacare on the whole, just the employer loophole you mentioned.