GUN CONTROL

[bu villain]

Rape is illegal. doesnt stop rape.
Murder is illegal. doesnt stop murder.
Theft is illegal. doesnt stop theft.

So legalise rape, murder, and theft because the laws don't completely stop bad things from happening? Or are you agreeing that laws can still be a good idea even if they don't stop all related crime?

[Vteckidd]

So legalise rape, murder, and theft because the laws don't completely stop bad things from happening? Or are you agreeing that laws can still be a good idea even if they don't stop all related crime?

its a bad comparison, because no one offers RAPE as a product that you can purchase and then use at your own free will to commit a crime. RAPE doesnt have multi billion dollar lobbying firms in DC.

Rape is Illegal, but Sex is not. The only thing that makes RAPE illegal is a person not wanting to have sex and its forced on them. Comparing that to firearms just doesnt make any sense.

Again the point everyone keeps missing is that i never once said guns should be banned. I never once said that registering used weapons would prevent massacres or gun violence. I never said that was the only answer. So stop thinking in broad 1 action strokes.

I dont think anyone can logically argue that USED firearms shouldnt be treated just like NEW firearms. They cause the same damage, they demand the same respect, they should be registered JUST LIKE A NEW WEAPON ANYTIME YOU BUY ONE.

Its irrational to think otherwise. It no more presents a GUN GRAB than the current NEW weapons being sold are subject to the same kind of tactics a VERY VERy small minority in congress may want to see happen. It changes nothing. It does however allow LEO to operate more efficiently.

WHere is all the bleeding heart GOP "DONT WASTE MY TAX DOLLARS" BULLSHIT NOW? Dont you agree that LEO chasing down gun owners through 3-4 people is a waste of resources?

Imagine if we didnt recquire any registration on cars? No bill of sale, no title transfer, and we didnt care? Dont you think hit and run accidents would be almost impossible to control?

[bu villain]

its a bad comparison, because no one offers RAPE as a product that you can purchase and then use at your own free will to commit a crime. RAPE doesnt have multi billion dollar lobbying firms in DC.

I agree. It was Sinflix who made that comparison. I was merely pointing out that his assumption that the only purpose of a law is to stop crime is not entirely correct.

[Sinfix_15]

I agree. It was Sinflix who made that comparison. I was merely pointing out that his assumption that the only purpose of a law is to stop crime is not entirely correct.

My point is that laws have no effect on criminals. Banning guns will not remove guns from the hands of a criminal.

[bu villain]

My point is that laws have no effect on criminals. Banning guns will not remove guns from the hands of a criminal.

1. No one here is proposing an all out gun ban.
2. Gun regulation is still a good idea even if criminals can still get their hands on one
3. Laws do have effects on criminals. We can argue if the effects are good/bad or effective/inneffective but there are effects.