GUN CONTROL

[RL...]

I know the right to bear arms is in the constitution, but I think our country would be better off if it were illegal for anyone other than military/police to obtain them. If your average joe shmoe couldn't buy a gun than murder, rape, burglary, all of that stuff would drastically be reduced. Most people wouldn't commit the crimes they do if they weren't able to hide behind a gun. We wouldn't have to worry about columbine shootings, movie theater shootings, someone breaking into our house and shooting us or robbing us at gunpoint.

Would this stop all crime? No. And I'm sure some people would still manage to get guns here and there, but by and far I think the greatly reduced crime rates would justify breaking this constitutional rule.

[Sinfix_15]

I know the right to bear arms is in the constitution, but I think our country would be better off if it were illegal for anyone other than military/police to obtain them. If your average joe shmoe couldn't buy a gun than murder, rape, burglary, all of that stuff would drastically be reduced. Most people wouldn't commit the crimes they do if they weren't able to hide behind a gun. We wouldn't have to worry about columbine shootings, movie theater shootings, someone breaking into our house and shooting us or robbing us at gunpoint.

Would this stop all crime? No. And I'm sure some people would still manage to get guns here and there, but by and far I think the greatly reduced crime rates would justify breaking this constitutional rule.

with all do respect....... you are a fucking moron. I hope i never live to see the day that you get your wish.

[RL...]

with all do respect....... you are a fucking moron. I hope i never live to see the day that you get your wish.

You're the guy who got pissed off and felt violated because people going to a funeral were holding up traffic. It's obvious you have no idea of what decency is nor how to be a respectful person so what do you know? You're as emotional as a girl going through puberty.





Back on topic...yes more gun control like having titles associated with them makes sense. People would be less likely to do stupid shit if it was easy to trace guns back to the last owner.

[Sinfix_15]

You're the guy who got pissed off and felt violated because people going to a funeral were holding up traffic. It's obvious you have no idea of what decency is nor how to be a respectful person so what do you know? You're as emotional as a girl going through puberty.





Back on topic...yes more gun control like having titles associated with them makes sense. People would be less likely to do stupid shit if it was easy to trace guns back to the last owner.

Rape is illegal. doesnt stop rape.
Murder is illegal. doesnt stop murder.
Theft is illegal. doesnt stop theft.

8,000 home invasions happen a day in the US. 60% of all rapes happen during home invasion.

Making guns illegal would only take the gun out of your hand, not the criminal. If the government ever decides to ban guns.... then i suggest we all round up our guns..............................





























and use them on the government.
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refere...ily/index.html

read this article about a family that was killed during a home invasion. A man who witnessed his wife and daughters get raped and murdered, then beat and left for dead. No law will ever protect you. No matter how good the police ever become, they will never be at every single house every single hour of the day. You're welcome to leave your life up to chance if you want, i respect your decision. If someone breaks into your house, call the police. If they break into mine, call a coroner.

[RL...]

Rape is illegal. doesnt stop rape.
Murder is illegal. doesnt stop murder.
Theft is illegal. doesnt stop theft.

8,000 home invasions happen a day in the US. 60% of all rapes happen during home invasion.

Making guns illegal would only take the gun out of your hand, not the criminal. If the government ever decides to ban guns.... then i suggest we all round up our guns..............................


and use them on the government
Petit Family Killings News - The New York Times

read this article about a family that was killed during a home invasion. A man who witnessed his wife and daughters get raped and murdered, then beat and left for dead. No law will ever protect you. No matter how good the police ever become, they will never be at every single house every single hour of the day. You're welcome to leave your life up to chance if you want, i respect your decision. If someone breaks into your house, call the police. If they break into mine, call a coroner.

lol
You and your wife have a much higher chance of dying from heart disease than getting raped or murdered in your house. In my 24 years of life I have never had my place of residence been broken into, and I've lived in more than 5 different homes, in more than 5 states. So think your "1 in 5" stats are little off.

In regards to that article, it's truly tragic, but its hard to say if a gun would've saved them. If they break in and shove their gun to your face, you won't have time to get your gun. Even if you did, most people who buy guns aren't trained to use them properly.

[ahabion]

So to your own admission, putting more regulation or promoting gun control will not stop crime. Crimes will continue to happen with or without gun control... So what is the point of it?

It's not guns that kill people... it's people who kill other people. Guns are amoral.

[RL...]

So to your own admission, putting more regulation or promoting gun control will not stop crime. Crimes will continue to happen with or without gun control... So what is the point of it?

It's not guns that kill people... it's people who kill other people. Guns are amoral.

I also said it's a good start, a step in the right direction. Of course gun control can't stop crime. No one can be so obtuse as to think like that. The point is that it should help deter some, not all, some criminals from doing heinous acts.

[Vteckidd]

So to your own admission, putting more regulation or promoting gun control will not stop crime. Crimes will continue to happen with or without gun control... So what is the point of it?

It's not guns that kill people... it's people who kill other people. Guns are amoral.

BANNING GUNS WONT SOLVE CRIME, SO WE SHOULD JUST GIVE MACHINE GUNS TO EVERYONE, FUCK IT



AMUURRRICA

[Sinfix_15]

lol
You and your wife have a much higher chance of dying from heart disease than getting raped or murdered in your house. In my 24 years of life I have never had my place of residence been broken into, and I've lived in more than 5 different homes, in more than 5 states. So think your "1 in 5" stats are little off.

In regards to that article, it's truly tragic, but its hard to say if a gun would've saved them. If they break in and shove their gun to your face, you won't have time to get your gun. Even if you did, most people who buy guns aren't trained to use them properly.

Clearly you dont understand statistics.

I've had 3 incidents in my lifetime that required me to pull a gun on my property. More importantly than any of those 3, my fiance deterred someone attempting to break in the house when she was home alone by grabbing my shotgun. Strangely......... yelling "im calling the police" had no effect.... but cocking and aiming a shotgun made them run away. She wasnt properly trained to use a gun and didnt even have to fire a gun, the presence of a gun prevented an attack.

8000 home invasions happen a day in the US. That is not a made up statistic. If you wish to play the odds and say "it'll never happen to me". good for you, someone breaks into my house while i am here, they will die. I wont shed one tear for them. I'll attend their funeral for the sole purpose of telling their parents that they did a shitty job raising a criminal. After that, i'll treat myself to a steak dinner to celebrate the fact that the world has 1 less scumbag in it.

[bu villain]

Rape is illegal. doesnt stop rape.
Murder is illegal. doesnt stop murder.
Theft is illegal. doesnt stop theft.

So legalise rape, murder, and theft because the laws don't completely stop bad things from happening? Or are you agreeing that laws can still be a good idea even if they don't stop all related crime?

[Vteckidd]

So legalise rape, murder, and theft because the laws don't completely stop bad things from happening? Or are you agreeing that laws can still be a good idea even if they don't stop all related crime?

its a bad comparison, because no one offers RAPE as a product that you can purchase and then use at your own free will to commit a crime. RAPE doesnt have multi billion dollar lobbying firms in DC.

Rape is Illegal, but Sex is not. The only thing that makes RAPE illegal is a person not wanting to have sex and its forced on them. Comparing that to firearms just doesnt make any sense.

Again the point everyone keeps missing is that i never once said guns should be banned. I never once said that registering used weapons would prevent massacres or gun violence. I never said that was the only answer. So stop thinking in broad 1 action strokes.

I dont think anyone can logically argue that USED firearms shouldnt be treated just like NEW firearms. They cause the same damage, they demand the same respect, they should be registered JUST LIKE A NEW WEAPON ANYTIME YOU BUY ONE.

Its irrational to think otherwise. It no more presents a GUN GRAB than the current NEW weapons being sold are subject to the same kind of tactics a VERY VERy small minority in congress may want to see happen. It changes nothing. It does however allow LEO to operate more efficiently.

WHere is all the bleeding heart GOP "DONT WASTE MY TAX DOLLARS" BULLSHIT NOW? Dont you agree that LEO chasing down gun owners through 3-4 people is a waste of resources?

Imagine if we didnt recquire any registration on cars? No bill of sale, no title transfer, and we didnt care? Dont you think hit and run accidents would be almost impossible to control?

[bu villain]

its a bad comparison, because no one offers RAPE as a product that you can purchase and then use at your own free will to commit a crime. RAPE doesnt have multi billion dollar lobbying firms in DC.

I agree. It was Sinflix who made that comparison. I was merely pointing out that his assumption that the only purpose of a law is to stop crime is not entirely correct.

[Vteckidd]

I know the right to bear arms is in the constitution, but I think our country would be better off if it were illegal for anyone other than military/police to obtain them. If your average joe shmoe couldn't buy a gun than murder, rape, burglary, all of that stuff would drastically be reduced. Most people wouldn't commit the crimes they do if they weren't able to hide behind a gun. We wouldn't have to worry about columbine shootings, movie theater shootings, someone breaking into our house and shooting us or robbing us at gunpoint.

You cant UNINVENT the firearm. Its been around for 300+ years? Some form of a projectile firing mechanism has been around since the dark ages (catapults, etc). Banning guns would only enable the criminals. Look at the crime rates in the UK , a place that bans firearms, or NY, or DC. If they outlawed Gasoline engines tomorrow do you think no one would ever make another gas engine ever again? Hell no.

The answer to stopping crime is making it more efficient for LEO to fight crime, hence why i said the ban on all private sales unless its through a dealer, and keep updated records of the owners of the weapons. Its just responsible.