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    If anything, this so called Mosque (it's really more like an Islamic YMCA) is a big middle finger to the 9/11 supporting terrorists who want to destroy us and our principles. This sort of situation is exactly what makes us better than countries like Saudi Arabia. Let's live up to our convictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    If anything, this so called Mosque (it's really more like an Islamic YMCA) is a big middle finger to the 9/11 supporting terrorists who want to destroy us and our principles. This sort of situation is exactly what makes us better than countries like Saudi Arabia. Let's live up to our convictions.

    I see it the opposite way. I see it as a middle finger to the innocent people that died and a monument to the terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    I see it the opposite way. I see it as a middle finger to the innocent people that died and a monument to the terrorists.
    Because, as everyone knows, it is the MUSLIMS that attacked us, not Terrorists. Sorry, must have missed that in the news coverage. Thanks for clearing that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    I see it the opposite way. I see it as a middle finger to the innocent people that died and a monument to the terrorists.
    But even after reading all your posts, I still don't understand why anyone would see it that way. Do you think these muslims may be terrorists? These are sufis, probably the least likely sect to ever become terrorists. If you agree that these muslims are not terrorists then why would their mosque be a monument for terrorism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Do you think these muslims may be terrorists?
    I dont know them so I have no clue.



    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    These are sufis, probably the least likely sect to ever become terrorists.
    Least likely doesnt make it impossible.


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    If you agree that these muslims are not terrorists then why would their mosque be a monument for terrorism?

    I didnt agree to anything. I've already said I know nothing of their intentions. I've said multiple times and in certain situations perception is more important than reality and this is one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    I didnt agree to anything. I've already said I know nothing of their intentions. I've said multiple times and in certain situations perception is more important than reality and this is one of them.
    You don't seem to be all that interested in seeking the reality in this situation either. A simple google search or browsing Wikipedia for a few minutes will find you plenty of information on how the Imam is a moderate and Sufis are a peaceful, moderate, pro-West sect.

    Wahabbi's (OBL, Al Qaeda, and such) hate Sufi's probably more than they hate US. Sufi Islam has more in common with Christian and Jewish mysticism than it does with Shia/Sunni/Wahabbi Islam.

    As far as the release of al Megrahi, that was the BP and the British gov't making an oil deal with Libya. You'll have to take that up with the Brits, and I don't seen how that has anything to do with G-0 or the Cordoba/Park 51 project anyway.

    The fact of the situation is that you don't want to know. You ask others to do the research for you and then bash it without even examining it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    I dont know them so I have no clue.

    Least likely doesnt make it impossible.

    I didnt agree to anything. I've already said I know nothing of their intentions. I've said multiple times and in certain situations perception is more important than reality and this is one of them.
    It sounds like you are saying that perceptions coming from ignorance are somehow valid. I am surprised because you don't normally argue that public perception should trump constitutional freedoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    It sounds like you are saying that perceptions coming from ignorance are somehow valid. I am surprised because you don't normally argue that public perception should trump constitutional freedoms.
    No one is questioning constitutional freedoms. I dont know where you liberals are getting this idea from. Maybe the same journalists that make up the jorno-list? People are against it because because of the perception and because it is definitely in bad taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    No one is questioning constitutional freedoms. I dont know where you liberals are getting this idea from. Maybe the same journalists that make up the jorno-list? People are against it because because of the perception and because it is definitely in bad taste.
    How is calling me a liberal and questioning where I get my information helpful at all in this debate? (Btw, I listen to right wing talk radio daily and never watch TV).

    If the imam claimed this was a monument to terrorism I would agree the mosque is in bad taste. If I held all Muslims or Islam itself responsible for 9/11 I would agree the mosque is in bad taste.

    Since I don't see clear evidence otherwise (only conjecture), I view this as reasonable Muslims trying to build a place of worship (and swimming). I am honestly trying to understand why the opponents feel the way they do.

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