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    IMO

    1) The states will not win as the constitution gives the Fed govt broad powers to TAX, which is why this is being run through the IRS. The states only leg to stand on is this forces people to buy a service or pay a FINE, which would be unconstitutional. But by the Feds running it through the IRS they will say its a TAX, which is perfectly legal. Its a good show, but it wont work IMO.

    2) Obama and the left realize they couldnt go to a single payer or a public option over night. There way to GRADUALLY do this is to takeover the insurance companies which will become proxies for the govt and ultimately assimilated into the govt, if it ever gets that far. Thats why everyone finally went along i think Obama convinced them that PUBLIC OPTION through takeover is the best way to achieve their ultimate goal.

    3) States rights are to challenge any rule they find unconstitutional

    Like i said before this will probably cause the biggest tear between States and Feds since the Civil War IMO. Its just getting started.
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    I had a long response typed up and hit the wrong damn button and lost it

    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post

    1) The states will not win as the constitution gives the Fed govt broad powers to TAX, which is why this is being run through the IRS. The states only leg to stand on is this forces people to buy a service or pay a FINE, which would be unconstitutional. But by the Feds running it through the IRS they will say its a TAX, which is perfectly legal. Its a good show, but it wont work IMO.
    The isnt so much the fine, as the reason for the fine that is under attack. I find it very disturbing that our govt thinks it can force us to buy a product from a private corporation. This isnt at all like car insurance either like some people are comparing it to. Car insurance is a condition that has to be met to be eligible to partake in a privilege. This law doesnt mandate a service as a condition of anything more than being American.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Like i said before this will probably cause the biggest tear between States and Feds since the Civil War IMO. Its just getting started.
    The rift has been there for quite a few years already, but until health care, the rift was from array of different issues individual to each state. This bill is a galvanizing issue that has brought at least 3/4 of the states together in some degree. Too bad the states cannot force a Constitutional Amendment on Congress. If they could, I believe that this bill would already be facing it.

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