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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
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    That guy is top one the most..if not THE MOST respectable person in the Auto Industry.

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    yea but you know whats funny toyota and gm were very VERY close in revenue BUT Toyota was still able to turn a profit till now.

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    Andf they will continue to turn a profit --- the Asians are not proud -- they willl make the right decisions to mitigate the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTScoob


    Nuff said.
    As much as I hate American made vehicles, I found great humor in that ad....til I realized its 100% true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J
    Andf they will continue to turn a profit --- the Asians are not proud -- they willl make the right decisions to mitigate the issue.
    Unlike our companies that just come running to us for hand outs

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    Quote Originally Posted by redGT
    yea but you know whats funny toyota and gm were very VERY close in revenue BUT Toyota was still able to turn a profit till now.
    The difference is vey simple. Toyota does not pay a union member 95% retirement. Instead they do what a smart business would do and set up a 401k program for retirements.

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    FOR SHEEZY
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    fuck american cars.......thier most unreliable cars in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J
    the Asians are not proud -- they willl make the right decisions to mitigate the issue.
    You sir are wrong.

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    ^^ You wanna bet that they will not take a loss next year?? I've got $100 on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    I read a while back that if the Big 3 were to go under it would cost more than 10 million jobs in the US over about a 5 year span. That includes the actual corporations, their suppliers, then the last to go will be the dealerships and mechanics.
    That may be but it's called the business cycle. Bad underperforming companies fall all the time, they are then replaced by those who are better, more organized ones. It's Capitalism. And while it may suck to think 10 million more Americans will be out of work, why should we (The Tax-Payer) reward the Big 3 for poor business choices. This bailout is simple...the Democrats don’t want to let GM go into bankruptcy because it would hurt their reliable union votes. Bailouts won’t bring profits back. This will just become a perpetual drain on taxpayers to support UAW workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    The difference is vey simple. Toyota does not pay a union member 95% retirement. Instead they do what a smart business would do and set up a 401k program for retirements.
    And that's my point better management

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    Quote Originally Posted by redGT
    yea but you know whats funny toyota and gm were very VERY close in revenue BUT Toyota was still able to turn a profit till now.
    Look up how many dealerships GM vs Toyota, then get back to me...


    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J
    ^^ You wanna bet that they will not take a loss next year?? I've got $100 on it.
    I didn't say that they will not do well, but they do alot of things that make no economic sense that have a bit to do with that word pride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redGT
    And that's my point better management
    Its not about management. That 95% retirement is part of the union agreement. Its about political backing for the unions that allow them to take pretty much anything they want. The Big 3 have little to no leverage to negotiate while the union will shut down the plant and use political pressure to get what they want.

    Look at what states foreign manufacturers are putting their plants. All of them are right to work states with no union strongholds. Because of this they can pay their people less and they can set up any retirement they want. If cardcheck passes, I wouldnt be suprised to see these foreign manufacturers closing those plants at the first hint of union involvement.

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