So much for Republican's family values.

[tony]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...as-dwi-arrest/

Palins husband has a DWI arrest, albeit 20 years ago but nonetheless its a DWI.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...hter-pregnant/

Palins daughter, 17 years old and 5 months pregnant out of wedlock to an older man.

To the McSame nut swingers, how will you spin this? Experience? If this was Obama, Clinton, or Biden you guys would be all over this. I anxiously await the response that shows the Republicans are the party of family values.

[quickdodge®]

Hope you weren't looking for a discussion on this topic. Later, QD.

[Nismo]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...as-dwi-arrest/

Palins husband has a DWI arrest, albeit 20 years ago but nonetheless its a DWI.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...hter-pregnant/

Palins daughter, 17 years old and 5 months pregnant out of wedlock to an older man.

To the McSame nut swingers, how will you spin this? Experience? If this was Obama, Clinton, or Biden you guys would be all over this. I anxiously await the response that shows the Republicans are the party of family values.

We as republicans dont care about what you think.

Thank you.

[quickdodge®]

We as republicans dont care about what you think.

Thank you.

See, lolol. Trying to put a serious topic in the WL. Who does that? Later, QD.

[Big Baller]

Yeah well Obamas Black.....what do you have to say to that

[Nismo]

Yeah well Obamas Black.....what do you have to say to that

I would figure since he's black he is all for DWI's and un-wed mothers...


(waits for giant flame war to start)

[japan4racing]

i dont see how either of the situations at hand effect ones ability to help run a country. why dont we worry about important things like taxes or homeland security..not 20 year old dui convictions and a 17 year old getting pregnant....at least she waited till 17. my first pregnancy scare was at 15

[quickdodge®]

my first pregnancy scare was at 15

Lolol. Later, QD.

[Maniacc]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...as-dwi-arrest/

Palins husband has a DWI arrest, albeit 20 years ago but nonetheless its a DWI.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...hter-pregnant/

Palins daughter, 17 years old and 5 months pregnant out of wedlock to an older man.

To the McSame nut swingers, how will you spin this? Experience? If this was Obama, Clinton, or Biden you guys would be all over this. I anxiously await the response that shows the Republicans are the party of family values.

I don't know anyone who's so much enthusiastic about democrats as they are appalled by republitards. Democrats don't even have to be good to be better than the fantasy world sh*theadedness promoted by republicans. The fact that her daughter is only 17 and pregnant just show's that the saying 'the apple doesn't fall far from the tree' is true.

[BobbyFresco]

i dont see how either of the situations at hand effect ones ability to help run a country. why dont we worry about important things like taxes or homeland security..not 20 year old dui convictions and a 17 year old getting pregnant....at least she waited till 17. my first pregnancy scare was at 15

It's pretty simple. Republicans are all about morals and family values and being generally judgemental of others who do not participate in their way of life.

Now I'm willing to bet that to an average republican, a 17 year old child having a child out of wedlock is not in keeping of moral high ground they set for themselves. Def not for someone who is running for a presidential position.

[quickdodge®]

It's pretty simple. Republicans are all about morals and family values and being generally judgemental of others who do not participate in their way of life.

HEY!!!

I thought that was Christian people? Later, QD.

[BobbyFresco]

I don't know anyone who's so much enthusiastic about democrats as they are appalled by republitards. Democrats don't even have to be good to be better than the fantasy world sh*theadedness promoted by republicans. The fact that her daughter is only 17 and pregnant just show's that the saying 'the apple doesn't fall far from the tree' is true.

Someone gets it...

[BobbyFresco]

HEY!!!

I thought that was Christian people? Later, QD.

Same difference.

[xLSTONEx]

I don't know what DUIs have anything to do with family values.

[tony]

It's pretty simple. Republicans are all about morals and family values and being generally judgemental of others who do not participate in their way of life.

Now I'm willing to bet that to an average republican, a 17 year old child having a child out of wedlock is not in keeping of moral high ground they set for themselves. Def not for someone who is running for a presidential position.

And thats pretty much it, over the past few months the finger has continually been pointed at Obama for his religion, his views on race, his social class and his values. McSame picks someone who is far from a shining light on values and suddenly its off limits? Damn that.

[RandomGuy]

I don't know anyone who's so much enthusiastic about democrats as they are appalled by republitards. Democrats don't even have to be good to be better than the fantasy world sh*theadedness promoted by republicans. The fact that her daughter is only 17 and pregnant just show's that the saying 'the apple doesn't fall far from the tree' is true.

illegals cant vote; therefore your opinion is void


blahahahahahahahahah



but yeah i agree with the illegal, but also am politically apathetic....

[The Ninja]

illegals cant vote; therefore your opinion is void


blahahahahahahahahah



but yeah i agree with the illegal, but also am politically apathetic....

I agree with you. Whenever I try to get involved I get frustrated, they're all corrupt, in it for themselves or their buddies, or simply don't give a ****. I don't care about politics because if I did I'd drive myself insane.

I find it more an interesting topic to view from an objective point.

[man]

And thats pretty much it, over the past few months the finger has continually been pointed at Obama for his religion, his views on race, his social class and his values. McSame picks someone who is far from a shining light on values and suddenly its off limits? Damn that.

But this has nothing to do with HER values. You can't control what other people do, even those in your family.

[tony]

But this has nothing to do with HER values. You can't control what other people do, even those in your family.

Then why hold Obama accountable for his pastor? Of whom he has even less control over.

[Vteckidd]

Its really not that big of a deal.

Having family values doesnt mean mistake dont happen.

Bush had a DUI, Kennedy has 7 DUIs LOL, i mean there is tons of sh!t out there.

Obama admitted to smoking weed more than once.

Palin has a daughter that got pregnant. So what, shes getting married to the guy that impregnated her, and i think thats a private matter.

Now, at least she didnt LIE about it like Edwards did

[Vteckidd]

Then why hold Obama accountable for his pastor? Of whom he has even less control over.

Well thats a totally different issues considering

1) It was the source of his power base
2) he was married by the guy
3) his kids were baptized by the guy
4) he had a 30 year relationship with the guy

Being friends with a religous nutcase is different than your daughter getting pregnant too young.

I mean if this was Obamas little girl (if she was 17) it wouldnt bother me at all. Like i said its a family matter.

there is no way you can compare the 2. Its like saying have 30 year ties to a white supremacist is the same as your father having a drinking problem.

come on stretching a bit arent we?

[4dmin]

lol i'm not surprised - sh!t our president got a DUI in the 70's ... do know know how drunk you have to be to get a DUI in the 70's

[4dmin]

Bush did too.

Right Wing definition of Personal Responsibility:

Teen Not Pregnant: she's taking responsibility for her actions.

Teen Having Baby: she's taking responsibility for her actions.

Man with No DWI: he's taking responsibility for her actions.

Man with DWI: he's taking responsibility for her actions.

The spin machine is awesome!

This is even funnier that the GOP saying Palin has more experience than Obama!!!

funny post from that first link

[tony]

And the spin continues... no suprises here.

[4dmin]

The McCain aide insisted a key point to keep in mind is that Bristol decided to keep the baby, a decision “supported by her parents.”

bahhh McCain is a f*cking moron - this is all more the reason why we don't need them back in office. They never practice what they preach. Why on earth would he pick Palin? not looking good.

[Echonova]

Would you Democrats feel better about it if the kid has an abortion?

[Echonova]

bahhh McCain is a f*cking moron - this is all more the reason why we don't need them back in office. They never practice what they preach. Why on earth would he pick Palin? not looking good.

Why pick Biden? "We need a change"... So he picks the guy that's been in Washington almost longer than anyone else.

[Echonova]

If Obama wins and gets his tax plan passed, I'm going to move to California where I can pay 63% of my income in taxes. I wanna do my fair share.

[OneSlow5pt0]

whats the deal,every family has issues...........and to have a leader whos gone through it,i see no problem

[GirlieZ]

darnit i didnt see you post the 17 yr old prego story...mods feel free to delete my thread on the before mentioned topic

[alpine_aw11]

Anyone who uses this as a means to criticize McCain's campaign is a MORON. Plain and simple. Typical dirty politics. If you Obama guys are all about change, don't stick to the typical political mudslinging bs. None of us can speak about this issue. You don't know Palins daughter. You don't know the circumstances. Crying about this because you're mad Obama got attacked for his association with his crazy pastor shows you have no character or actual concern for real issues. I'm not saying it was right to criticize Obama on those grounds, but using this as a means to criticize Palin and her family is immature and completely irrelevant to any actual political issues. There are plenty of other ways to criticize her lol.

[Echonova]

Anyone who uses this as a means to criticize McCain's campaign is a MORON. Plain and simple. Typical dirty politics. If you Obama guys are all about change, don't stick to the typical political mudslinging bs. None of us can speak about this issue. You don't know Palins daughter. You don't know the circumstances. Crying about this because you're mad Obama got attacked for his association with his crazy pastor shows you have no character or actual concern for real issues. I'm not saying it was right to criticize Obama on those grounds, but using this as a means to criticize Palin and her family is immature and completely irrelevant to any actual political issues. There are plenty of other ways to criticize her lol.

X2

Two wrongs don't make a right. But it does make you feel better.

[tony]

Wow, this is simply amazing. The very people who have been here criticizing Obama on ish that has no substance suddenly have morales and I have no character.

Boo ****ing hoo. The lady has domestic issues and yes when you're a public official serving the PEOPLE, making legislative decisions that effect them your own house should be clean before you try to clean someone elses. At the least set an example.

Again, nothing has been off limits with Obama. His wife, his mother.. everyone around him has been scrutinized now suddenly its off limits. Honestly, yall can kiss my ass, I'll harp on this till Nov. 4th.

[alpine_aw11]

Wow, this is simply amazing. The very people who have been here criticizing Obama on ish that has no substance suddenly have morales and I have no character.

Boo ****ing hoo. The lady has domestic issues and yes when you're a public official serving the PEOPLE, making legislative decisions that effect them your own house should be clean before you try to clean someone elses. At the least set an example.

Again, nothing has been off limits with Obama. His wife, his mother.. everyone around him has been scrutinized now suddenly its off limits. Honestly, yall can kiss my ass, I'll harp on this till Nov. 4th.

Using this to criticize her does show a lack of character. Just like the people who criticized Obama for smoking in high school and all that other garbage lack character. Since you guys are all about using real issues as a means of criticism, use it. Not this whiny schoolgirl crap about things that are completely devoid of any actual relevance to the election. What Obama was criticized for didn't lose him any voters, or at least any intelligent ones. Just like this probably wont hurt McCain. If people can't learn to see through the bull**** then they shouldn't be voting at all.

disclaimer: I hate Obama and McCain equally

[Echonova]

Wow, this is simply amazing. The very people who have been here criticizing Obama on ish that has no substance suddenly have morales and I have no character.

Boo ****ing hoo. The lady has domestic issues and yes when you're a public official serving the PEOPLE, making legislative decisions that effect them your own house should be clean before you try to clean someone elses. At the least set an example.

How's Edwards doing these days?


BTW:You have character, most politicians don't. Politics is the only place where you can lie for living and not go to jail. Which is why everyone has disagreements, because their candidates lies less than that other bastard.

[tony]

Actually Obama's poll numbers dropped numerous times behind erroneous BS.

Okay since we're talking about substance and criticism. Lets talk about her brother in law the state trooper and what most likely was her abuse of power, care to comment or is that too personal as well?

[Reaper]

Wow, this is simply amazing. The very people who have been here criticizing Obama on ish that has no substance suddenly have morales and I have no character.

Boo ****ing hoo. The lady has domestic issues and yes when you're a public official serving the PEOPLE, making legislative decisions that effect them your own house should be clean before you try to clean someone elses. At the least set an example.

Again, nothing has been off limits with Obama. His wife, his mother.. everyone around him has been scrutinized now suddenly its off limits. Honestly, yall can kiss my ass, I'll harp on this till Nov. 4th.

Obama did the right thing, and it shows a lot of class for saying she should be off limits. He's only doing what he feels should be done for him(not to mention its a smart political move). I don't agree with how people have attacked his family and what not..But for you to "harp on this till Nov. 4th" is pretty immature. Although I don't agree with just about any of your political views, you tend to be pretty fair, and respect other peoples opinions, and I respect that. But, I would expect something like this out of someone a lot less mature. Like ECHO said, 2 wrongs don't make it right. Not that my opionion matters, I'm just a moderate that could really careless about either of the candidates, because Right or Left no one is ever happy nor "right". Oh well.

[alpine_aw11]

Actually Obama's poll numbers dropped numerous times behind erroneous BS.

Okay since we're talking about substance and criticism. Lets talk about her brother in law the state trooper and what most likely was her abuse of power, care to comment or is that too personal as well?

If she in fact did abuse her power, then hell no it isn't too personal. I haven't looked into the issue so I don't know what all happened with it, but if she did something wrong then use it. That's the kind of thing that should be brought up.

[Echonova]

Actually Obama's poll numbers dropped numerous times behind erroneous BS.

Okay since we're talking about substance and criticism. Lets talk about her brother in law the state trooper and what most likely was her abuse of power, care to comment or is that too personal as well?

No, that's fair game.

[Echonova]