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    Default So much for Republican's family values.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...as-dwi-arrest/

    Palins husband has a DWI arrest, albeit 20 years ago but nonetheless its a DWI.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...hter-pregnant/

    Palins daughter, 17 years old and 5 months pregnant out of wedlock to an older man.

    To the McSame nut swingers, how will you spin this? Experience? If this was Obama, Clinton, or Biden you guys would be all over this. I anxiously await the response that shows the Republicans are the party of family values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    Hope you weren't looking for a discussion on this topic. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...as-dwi-arrest/

    Palins husband has a DWI arrest, albeit 20 years ago but nonetheless its a DWI.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...hter-pregnant/

    Palins daughter, 17 years old and 5 months pregnant out of wedlock to an older man.

    To the McSame nut swingers, how will you spin this? Experience? If this was Obama, Clinton, or Biden you guys would be all over this. I anxiously await the response that shows the Republicans are the party of family values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nismo
    We as republicans dont care about what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Baller
    Yeah well Obamas Black.....what do you have to say to that
    I would figure since he's black he is all for DWI's and un-wed mothers...


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    i dont see how either of the situations at hand effect ones ability to help run a country. why dont we worry about important things like taxes or homeland security..not 20 year old dui convictions and a 17 year old getting pregnant....at least she waited till 17. my first pregnancy scare was at 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing
    my first pregnancy scare was at 15
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    Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing
    i dont see how either of the situations at hand effect ones ability to help run a country. why dont we worry about important things like taxes or homeland security..not 20 year old dui convictions and a 17 year old getting pregnant....at least she waited till 17. my first pregnancy scare was at 15

    It's pretty simple. Republicans are all about morals and family values and being generally judgemental of others who do not participate in their way of life.

    Now I'm willing to bet that to an average republican, a 17 year old child having a child out of wedlock is not in keeping of moral high ground they set for themselves. Def not for someone who is running for a presidential position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyFresh
    It's pretty simple. Republicans are all about morals and family values and being generally judgemental of others who do not participate in their way of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    HEY!!!

    I thought that was Christian people? Later, QD.
    Same difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyFresh
    It's pretty simple. Republicans are all about morals and family values and being generally judgemental of others who do not participate in their way of life.

    Now I'm willing to bet that to an average republican, a 17 year old child having a child out of wedlock is not in keeping of moral high ground they set for themselves. Def not for someone who is running for a presidential position.
    And thats pretty much it, over the past few months the finger has continually been pointed at Obama for his religion, his views on race, his social class and his values. McSame picks someone who is far from a shining light on values and suddenly its off limits? Damn that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    And thats pretty much it, over the past few months the finger has continually been pointed at Obama for his religion, his views on race, his social class and his values. McSame picks someone who is far from a shining light on values and suddenly its off limits? Damn that.
    But this has nothing to do with HER values. You can't control what other people do, even those in your family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    But this has nothing to do with HER values. You can't control what other people do, even those in your family.
    Then why hold Obama accountable for his pastor? Of whom he has even less control over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing
    i dont see how either of the situations at hand effect ones ability to help run a country. why dont we worry about important things like taxes or homeland security..not 20 year old dui convictions and a 17 year old getting pregnant....at least she waited till 17. my first pregnancy scare was at 15
    that just made you sound like a b*tch
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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...as-dwi-arrest/

    Palins husband has a DWI arrest, albeit 20 years ago but nonetheless its a DWI.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...hter-pregnant/

    Palins daughter, 17 years old and 5 months pregnant out of wedlock to an older man.

    To the McSame nut swingers, how will you spin this? Experience? If this was Obama, Clinton, or Biden you guys would be all over this. I anxiously await the response that shows the Republicans are the party of family values.
    I don't know anyone who's so much enthusiastic about democrats as they are appalled by republitards. Democrats don't even have to be good to be better than the fantasy world sh*theadedness promoted by republicans. The fact that her daughter is only 17 and pregnant just show's that the saying 'the apple doesn't fall far from the tree' is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meepnork
    I don't know anyone who's so much enthusiastic about democrats as they are appalled by republitards. Democrats don't even have to be good to be better than the fantasy world sh*theadedness promoted by republicans. The fact that her daughter is only 17 and pregnant just show's that the saying 'the apple doesn't fall far from the tree' is true.

    Someone gets it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by meepnork
    I don't know anyone who's so much enthusiastic about democrats as they are appalled by republitards. Democrats don't even have to be good to be better than the fantasy world sh*theadedness promoted by republicans. The fact that her daughter is only 17 and pregnant just show's that the saying 'the apple doesn't fall far from the tree' is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy
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    but yeah i agree with the illegal, but also am politically apathetic....
    I agree with you. Whenever I try to get involved I get frustrated, they're all corrupt, in it for themselves or their buddies, or simply don't give a ****. I don't care about politics because if I did I'd drive myself insane.

    I find it more an interesting topic to view from an objective point.

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    I don't know what DUIs have anything to do with family values.





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    Its really not that big of a deal.

    Having family values doesnt mean mistake dont happen.

    Bush had a DUI, Kennedy has 7 DUIs LOL, i mean there is tons of sh!t out there.

    Obama admitted to smoking weed more than once.

    Palin has a daughter that got pregnant. So what, shes getting married to the guy that impregnated her, and i think thats a private matter.

    Now, at least she didnt LIE about it like Edwards did
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    lol i'm not surprised - sh!t our president got a DUI in the 70's ... do know know how drunk you have to be to get a DUI in the 70's

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    Bush did too.

    Right Wing definition of Personal Responsibility:

    Teen Not Pregnant: she's taking responsibility for her actions.

    Teen Having Baby: she's taking responsibility for her actions.

    Man with No DWI: he's taking responsibility for her actions.

    Man with DWI: he's taking responsibility for her actions.

    The spin machine is awesome!

    This is even funnier that the GOP saying Palin has more experience than Obama!!!
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    And the spin continues... no suprises here.

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    The McCain aide insisted a key point to keep in mind is that Bristol decided to keep the baby, a decision “supported by her parents.”
    bahhh McCain is a f*cking moron - this is all more the reason why we don't need them back in office. They never practice what they preach. Why on earth would he pick Palin? not looking good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    bahhh McCain is a f*cking moron - this is all more the reason why we don't need them back in office. They never practice what they preach. Why on earth would he pick Palin? not looking good.
    Why pick Biden? "We need a change"... So he picks the guy that's been in Washington almost longer than anyone else.

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    If Obama wins and gets his tax plan passed, I'm going to move to California where I can pay 63% of my income in taxes. I wanna do my fair share.

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    whats the deal,every family has issues...........and to have a leader whos gone through it,i see no problem

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    darnit i didnt see you post the 17 yr old prego story...mods feel free to delete my thread on the before mentioned topic

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    Anyone who uses this as a means to criticize McCain's campaign is a MORON. Plain and simple. Typical dirty politics. If you Obama guys are all about change, don't stick to the typical political mudslinging bs. None of us can speak about this issue. You don't know Palins daughter. You don't know the circumstances. Crying about this because you're mad Obama got attacked for his association with his crazy pastor shows you have no character or actual concern for real issues. I'm not saying it was right to criticize Obama on those grounds, but using this as a means to criticize Palin and her family is immature and completely irrelevant to any actual political issues. There are plenty of other ways to criticize her lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine_xj
    Anyone who uses this as a means to criticize McCain's campaign is a MORON. Plain and simple. Typical dirty politics. If you Obama guys are all about change, don't stick to the typical political mudslinging bs. None of us can speak about this issue. You don't know Palins daughter. You don't know the circumstances. Crying about this because you're mad Obama got attacked for his association with his crazy pastor shows you have no character or actual concern for real issues. I'm not saying it was right to criticize Obama on those grounds, but using this as a means to criticize Palin and her family is immature and completely irrelevant to any actual political issues. There are plenty of other ways to criticize her lol.
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    Wow, this is simply amazing. The very people who have been here criticizing Obama on ish that has no substance suddenly have morales and I have no character.

    Boo ****ing hoo. The lady has domestic issues and yes when you're a public official serving the PEOPLE, making legislative decisions that effect them your own house should be clean before you try to clean someone elses. At the least set an example.

    Again, nothing has been off limits with Obama. His wife, his mother.. everyone around him has been scrutinized now suddenly its off limits. Honestly, yall can kiss my ass, I'll harp on this till Nov. 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Wow, this is simply amazing. The very people who have been here criticizing Obama on ish that has no substance suddenly have morales and I have no character.

    Boo ****ing hoo. The lady has domestic issues and yes when you're a public official serving the PEOPLE, making legislative decisions that effect them your own house should be clean before you try to clean someone elses. At the least set an example.

    Again, nothing has been off limits with Obama. His wife, his mother.. everyone around him has been scrutinized now suddenly its off limits. Honestly, yall can kiss my ass, I'll harp on this till Nov. 4th.
    Using this to criticize her does show a lack of character. Just like the people who criticized Obama for smoking in high school and all that other garbage lack character. Since you guys are all about using real issues as a means of criticism, use it. Not this whiny schoolgirl crap about things that are completely devoid of any actual relevance to the election. What Obama was criticized for didn't lose him any voters, or at least any intelligent ones. Just like this probably wont hurt McCain. If people can't learn to see through the bull**** then they shouldn't be voting at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Wow, this is simply amazing. The very people who have been here criticizing Obama on ish that has no substance suddenly have morales and I have no character.

    Boo ****ing hoo. The lady has domestic issues and yes when you're a public official serving the PEOPLE, making legislative decisions that effect them your own house should be clean before you try to clean someone elses. At the least set an example.
    How's Edwards doing these days?


    BTW:You have character, most politicians don't. Politics is the only place where you can lie for living and not go to jail. Which is why everyone has disagreements, because their candidates lies less than that other bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova
    How's Edwards doing these days?


    BTW:You have character, most politicians don't. Politics is the only place where you can lie for living and not go to jail. Which is why everyone has disagreements, because their candidates lies less than that other bastard.

    Don't know.. don't care, he's not campaigning as VP.

    I do want to say that, Obama is far from perfect. I have plenty of criticisms of him, but there has been an imbalance here as far as criticisms have gone. Obama chooses not to pounce on Palin's personal life and that is who he is, it pisses me off that he isn't a cut throat type politician like Hillary (she would jump on this in a SECOND) but oh well.

    My main thing is, if you criticize Obama on issues with no real merit don't be quick to go back and forth with me when your candidate exposes their self with stuff that carries the same weight. Personally, I could care less about Palin.. she's a fellow Alaskan and I'm happy to see someone from my home state doing well. I just don't need 4 more years of Bush policy of which McCain himself doesn't believe in, he is only doing this to appease the party. She's a part of that initiative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Don't know.. don't care, he's not campaigning as VP.

    I do want to say that, Obama is far from perfect. I have plenty of criticisms of him, but there has been an imbalance here as far as criticisms have gone. Obama chooses not to pounce on Palin's personal life and that is who he is, it pisses me off that he isn't a cut throat type politician like Hillary (she would jump on this in a SECOND) but oh well.

    My main thing is, if you criticize Obama on issues with no real merit don't be quick to go back and forth with me when your candidate exposes their self with stuff that carries the same weight. Personally, I could care less about Palin.. she's a fellow Alaskan and I'm happy to see someone from my home state doing well. I just don't need 4 more years of Bush policy of which McCain himself doesn't believe in, he is only doing this to appease the party. She's a part of that initiative.
    And that's why she isn't a candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper
    And that's why she isn't a candidate.

    She lost because she was cocky and didn't care about Caucus states, Obama only won because he had a 50 state initiative. The smear campaigns were working and honestly had she been more proactive early on her negative campaign would have worked.

    If Obama loses its not because he's black, its because he's too nice when other politicians are willing to hit below the belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    My main thing is, if you criticize Obama on issues with no real merit don't be quick to go back and forth with me when your candidate exposes their self with stuff that carries the same weight. Personally, I could care less about Palin.. she's a fellow Alaskan and I'm happy to see someone from my home state doing well. I just don't need 4 more years of Bush policy of which McCain himself doesn't believe in, he is only doing this to appease the party. She's a part of that initiative.
    I agree. Most supporters of McCain don't have the right to say this is unfounded criticism, as the amount of insults they had to pull out of their asses to discredit Obama make using this situation as an argument valid. But that is coming from a politician's terms, not mine. At least Obama stood up and said it's wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Wow, this is simply amazing. The very people who have been here criticizing Obama on ish that has no substance suddenly have morales and I have no character.

    Boo ****ing hoo. The lady has domestic issues and yes when you're a public official serving the PEOPLE, making legislative decisions that effect them your own house should be clean before you try to clean someone elses. At the least set an example.

    Again, nothing has been off limits with Obama. His wife, his mother.. everyone around him has been scrutinized now suddenly its off limits. Honestly, yall can kiss my ass, I'll harp on this till Nov. 4th.
    Obama did the right thing, and it shows a lot of class for saying she should be off limits. He's only doing what he feels should be done for him(not to mention its a smart political move). I don't agree with how people have attacked his family and what not..But for you to "harp on this till Nov. 4th" is pretty immature. Although I don't agree with just about any of your political views, you tend to be pretty fair, and respect other peoples opinions, and I respect that. But, I would expect something like this out of someone a lot less mature. Like ECHO said, 2 wrongs don't make it right. Not that my opionion matters, I'm just a moderate that could really careless about either of the candidates, because Right or Left no one is ever happy nor "right". Oh well.

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