7th gen civic discussion.

[fight club]

since this is referring to me ill answer. i do not hate the car. i like the lines of the car etc. what i dislike is people telling me i am wrong when i KNOW i am not. here are some facts to prove this. the only well liked kit for the d17 is the stafford fabrications turbo kit. its a t3 turbo and sells for 3k with new fuel system etc. those numbers are between 150-170 whp. that is about the maximum for that engine without major work ie- sleeving, porting, polishing, balancing the crank, higher compression pistons etc. now, that gets expensive. the only proven "cheap" way to make power in a 7th gen is a k series swap. as i have proven before, the swap of a k20a3, no not the best but still better than a d17 in terms of tuning, will cost about 2k. that puts you at around 135whp with minor bolt ons puts you even with the turbo, and those add ons are included in that cost. so for around 2k you could have a complete smooth powerband for 2k. now, the fastest 7th gen i have ever found had 500+WHP. engine? k20a2 with a turbo. its not hating and its true for all d series honda engines. you will not make alot of power from the sohc without alot of money sunk into it.
the second reason i was flaming, is because this is the kid who was chirping his tires and driving like a bat out of hell in petsmart and claiming he will beat the celica driven by snapper in a highway pull. this is rediculous. he was called out and backed out. when looking at his friends car, he out of nowhere tells me he will race me when hes turboed in 4 months. i laughed and said you might not wanna do that, cuz here in a few weeks im picking up an sti. he said, no ill win. now, if he builds the engine yea he might have a chance, but a d17 with a turbo that is spooled from an all motor "header" leading into a pipe is not going to beat an sti. when trying to HELP AND SUGGEST better ways, i was greeted with hostility. i got a 2002 ex when they came out and made one quick for what it was. i researched this shit for 5 months straight day and night. i dont hate the car, just the attitude that seems to follow that one.
and one last note, when you are lining up to race a car from a dig, try not to back into another car, just fyi.

[MajinB]

the second reason i was flaming, is because this is the kid who was chirping his tires and driving like a bat out of hell in petsmart and claiming he will beat the celica driven by snapper in a highway pull. this is rediculous. he was called out and backed out. when looking at his friends car, he out of nowhere tells me he will race me when hes turboed in 4 months. i laughed and said you might not wanna do that, cuz here in a few weeks im picking up an sti. he said, no ill win. now, if he builds the engine yea he might have a chance, but a d17 with a turbo that is spooled from an all motor "header" leading into a pipe is not going to beat an sti. when trying to HELP AND SUGGEST better ways, i was greeted with hostility. i got a 2002 ex when they came out and made one quick for what it was. i researched this shit for 5 months straight day and night. i dont hate the car, just the attitude that seems to follow that one.
and one last note, when you are lining up to race a car from a dig, try not to back into another car, just fyi.

look, you wonder why im hostile? cause you think you know. you dont LIVE on 7thgencivic.com like me.
let me set some shit straight. I NEVER said i would take the celica. NEVER EVER. i NEVER chirp in any parking lot. and your FULL OF IT if you think i do. you might have researched it for 5 whole months, ive been doing this since i bought the fuckin car LAST FEBRUARY. and the header idea has been proven already so get off it. just cause im new on this forum you think that you can call me a ricer and get away with it? give me a fuckin break.
asshats like YOU give me a headache. you don't give suggestions, you try to beat ideas down. and you suck for it. so just let it go. let me have my preference and quit trying to control what i choose to do. you can't. accept it.
i remember you now, i NEVER said ill win. your the dude with the miata. yea i remember you. quit makin shit up asshole, cause i got 6 people that were standing right beside me when we had that conversation that night. i never said about beating you in an STI. damn you talk to much shit i will be able to see it come out of your pores next time i see you. fuck off. and don't get near me anymore motherfucker. i won't be nice about this anymore.

[fight club]

look, you wonder why im hostile? cause you think you know. you dont LIVE on 7thgencivic.com like me.
let me set some shit straight. I NEVER said i would take the celica. NEVER EVER. i NEVER chirp in any parking lot. and your FULL OF IT if you think i do. you might have researched it for 5 whole months, ive been doing this since i bought the fuckin car LAST FEBRUARY. and the header idea has been proven already so get off it. just cause im new on this forum you think that you can call me a ricer and get away with it? give me a fuckin break.
asshats like YOU give me a headache. you don't give suggestions, you try to beat ideas down. and you suck for it. so just let it go. let me have my preference and quit trying to control what i choose to do. you can't. accept it.
i remember you now, i NEVER said ill win. your the dude with the miata. yea i remember you. quit makin shit up asshole, cause i got 6 people that were standing right beside me when we had that conversation that night. i never said about beating you in an STI. damn you talk to much shit i will be able to see it come out of your pores next time i see you. fuck off. and don't get near me anymore motherfucker. i won't be nice about this anymore.

funny, because i have a bunch of people who saw you drive out all hard core. and i dont try to beat down ideas, it actually a supporter of inventiveness and such, but heres a suggestion that will take you far in life. instead of getting pissed and defencive, be openminded about things. who knows, you might learn something you didnt know. i understand the header thing has been proven, and if you like that path, go for it. it is your car. i dont care if you decide to use a torro leaf blower to supercharge it, whatever makes you happy in the long run matters. but there is no fucking need to even start with threatning me. you didnt say you would beat the celica, fine, i must of confused you with someone else. the sti, fine agian, must of confused or missunderstood you. but let me give you a word of advice and this is just that, advice, its not be a very smart idea to talk shit over the internet. im not trying to bash you, tell you your stupid, you havent researched or anytihng like that, instead, you said that to me in the last thread, which i can find and copy if youd like. i was simply informing that i too have researched. and last february was 4 months ago. i sold my em2 almost a year ago. im glad you have big plans for your civic and i hope you furfill them. all i ever did from day one when i met you was just suggesting alternitives, as most tuners do to one another. its called information sharing, and it helps because you get a second view point on the matter. so now that that you know what i was saying, and wasnt being hostile or downgrading your ideas and such, if you still want to "not be so nice about it" feel free to pm me about it.

[MajinB]

funny, because i have a bunch of people who saw you drive out all hard core. and i dont try to beat down ideas, it actually a supporter of inventiveness and such, but heres a suggestion that will take you far in life. instead of getting pissed and defencive, be openminded about things. who knows, you might learn something you didnt know. i understand the header thing has been proven, and if you like that path, go for it. it is your car. i dont care if you decide to use a torro leaf blower to supercharge it, whatever makes you happy in the long run matters. but there is no fucking need to even start with threatning me. you didnt say you would beat the celica, fine, i must of confused you with someone else. the sti, fine agian, must of confused or missunderstood you. but let me give you a word of advice and this is just that, advice, its not be a very smart idea to talk shit over the internet. im not trying to bash you, tell you your stupid, you havent researched or anytihng like that, instead, you said that to me in the last thread, which i can find and copy if youd like. i was simply informing that i too have researched. and last february was 4 months ago. i sold my em2 almost a year ago. im glad you have big plans for your civic and i hope you furfill them. all i ever did from day one when i met you was just suggesting alternitives, as most tuners do to one another. its called information sharing, and it helps because you get a second view point on the matter. so now that that you know what i was saying, and wasnt being hostile or downgrading your ideas and such, if you still want to "not be so nice about it" feel free to pm me about it.

ok, look. i don't really have anything against you. i joined here cause i got told it was cool. i really don't know. but if you must know, I WAS redlining my car this past weekened. you probably heard why. i gave one of my friends my debit card, they went to get drinks. for the party that night. i told her to pull 20 bucks, instead she charges like 50 bucks on my card. which will make me overdraft. im pissed off, i get in my car with my buddy and we start to drive. i was not trying to show off, i was just blowing off steam. thats it. then they came back and i yelled a little bit. im SURE you heard it. everyone did, and i didn't care. they left to get my money she owed me, then came back. i was not trying to "show off" i was just pissed off that i had my stuff misused. get it? i was not trying to chirp the tires. they are stocks and they suck. and i don't need to PM you about anything. i meant what i said, don't get near me when you see me. you act like you are all knowing and i don't have time for that shit. ill leave you alone, you leave me alone.
btw i bought the car in feb of 05. LAST february. not this PAST. damn internet. but don't worry. i will not be frequenting this site often. i learned of the hate that goes on in here and its stupid. later

[drmcivicsi]

since this is referring to me ill answer. i do not hate the car. i like the lines of the car etc. what i dislike is people telling me i am wrong when i KNOW i am not. here are some facts to prove this. the only well liked kit for the d17 is the stafford fabrications turbo kit. its a t3 turbo and sells for 3k with new fuel system etc. those numbers are between 150-170 whp. that is about the maximum for that engine without major work ie- sleeving, porting, polishing, balancing the crank, higher compression pistons etc. now, that gets expensive. the only proven "cheap" way to make power in a 7th gen is a k series swap. as i have proven before, the swap of a k20a3, no not the best but still better than a d17 in terms of tuning, will cost about 2k. that puts you at around 135whp with minor bolt ons puts you even with the turbo, and those add ons are included in that cost. so for around 2k you could have a complete smooth powerband for 2k. now, the fastest 7th gen i have ever found had 500+WHP. engine? k20a2 with a turbo. its not hating and its true for all d series honda engines. you will not make alot of power from the sohc without alot of money sunk into it.
the second reason i was flaming, is because this is the kid who was chirping his tires and driving like a bat out of hell in petsmart and claiming he will beat the celica driven by snapper in a highway pull. this is rediculous. he was called out and backed out. when looking at his friends car, he out of nowhere tells me he will race me when hes turboed in 4 months. i laughed and said you might not wanna do that, cuz here in a few weeks im picking up an sti. he said, no ill win. now, if he builds the engine yea he might have a chance, but a d17 with a turbo that is spooled from an all motor "header" leading into a pipe is not going to beat an sti. when trying to HELP AND SUGGEST better ways, i was greeted with hostility. i got a 2002 ex when they came out and made one quick for what it was. i researched this shit for 5 months straight day and night. i dont hate the car, just the attitude that seems to follow that one.
and one last note, when you are lining up to race a car from a dig, try not to back into another car, just fyi.

are u sure all u can get is 150 170whp ? and why in the hell would u put higher compression pistons in a turbo car ?

[fight club]

are u sure all u can get is 150 170whp ? and why in the hell would u put higher compression pistons in a turbo car ?

haha my mistake on the pistons, meant lower compression.
and for the stafford turbo kits whp go here:
http://www.truehonda.com/inventory.p...ctdetail&id=14