Damn, I keep forgetting about this forum. Sorry for the delay.

I understand the Ninja 500 argument, although when I had mine (it was back in the late 80's though) it was easy to manage and I had a lot of fun with it. That thing would wheelie in heartbeat.

Anyway, I understand. Yall think my opinions suck.....

Seriously though, the 650 is pretty nice starter bike. Some of the older ZX6's are also very easily found in good shape. Those had plenty of power for most. The F4's are pretty pimp. They have good suspensions and pretty even powerband.