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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Paper Diary
    I have just under 95k on my b18. Never been rebuilt. Change the oil every 3k miles or 3 months, just flushed the radiator a month or 2 ago. Doesnt burn oil. Everything is stock except the short ram intake. I def. dont wanna race it. Auto x and fun in the twisties, yes. I have eibach sportline springs and koni yellow ext. adjustable shocks. Im thinking of maybe a smaller turbo pushing 6 or alittle more psi. Thinking of something that will spool up quicker. Im afraid to go NA because of reliability since its my DD. But since i drive to kennesaw nearly every week, how bad would a turbo be on gas compared to NA?
    You've seen my car before and heard it. I started w/ a b16 so revs are my friend. I can't remember, is your car a GSR? Just wondering if you are vtec or not. If it's GSR you can get a RM valvetrain kit from Vteckidd w/ cams, double valve springs, and ti retainers for around $899. Spring for some good Omnipower flat face valves @ about $250. OBD1 w/ uberdata to tune and to raise the rev limit and you can run that very reliably and make some good power. I drive my car every day and my commute is 110 miles round trip! I lay in it every chance I get too! lol. I still get around 28 MPG average and I really do run it hard. I'm running at 11:1 CR the RM cams/valvetrain, omnipower valves, AEBS manifold, JDM DC header w/ 2.5 inch collector, obd2-obd1 conversion chipped to tune with uberdata, and that's about it right now. We did take my car all the way down and use ARP rod bolts, full race main bearings, balanced and blue printed the bottom end, stock pistons w/ a .025 over bore, cp rings, and shaved the head a bit. That gave me a nice platform to start from and be able to handle the revs. I love my build, I'll love it even more when I get my rocket motorsports port and polish and my RMF b16 header! Like I said before, it's really what you like best. A low boost turbo will make you some power and as long as you have a properly sized turbo and a good manifold you can spool quickly and not have bad traction issues. I just love my NA, it's a challenge, not nearly as many people running around w/ 175 whp b16's that are NA as there are bolt on turbo kitted cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99SI
    You've seen my car before and heard it. I started w/ a b16 so revs are my friend. I can't remember, is your car a GSR? Just wondering if you are vtec or not. If it's GSR you can get a RM valvetrain kit from Vteckidd w/ cams, double valve springs, and ti retainers for around $899. Spring for some good Omnipower flat face valves @ about $250. OBD1 w/ uberdata to tune and to raise the rev limit and you can run that very reliably and make some good power. I drive my car every day and my commute is 110 miles round trip! I lay in it every chance I get too! lol. I still get around 28 MPG average and I really do run it hard. I'm running at 11:1 CR the RM cams/valvetrain, omnipower valves, AEBS manifold, JDM DC header w/ 2.5 inch collector, obd2-obd1 conversion chipped to tune with uberdata, and that's about it right now. We did take my car all the way down and use ARP rod bolts, full race main bearings, balanced and blue printed the bottom end, stock pistons w/ a .025 over bore, cp rings, and shaved the head a bit. That gave me a nice platform to start from and be able to handle the revs. I love my build, I'll love it even more when I get my rocket motorsports port and polish and my RMF b16 header! Like I said before, it's really what you like best. A low boost turbo will make you some power and as long as you have a properly sized turbo and a good manifold you can spool quickly and not have bad traction issues. I just love my NA, it's a challenge, not nearly as many people running around w/ 175 whp b16's that are NA as there are bolt on turbo kitted cars.
    How much money do you have in that 175 whp car? Also.. alot of people dont like pulling apart a perfectly good running motor, they dont have the skills or the knowledge, tools or space to do it. A turbo kit can be installed in a day. The machine work and everything else that is involved with what you have done would take atleast a few days,even with a skilled mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyder Man
    How much money do you have in that 175 whp car? Also.. alot of people dont like pulling apart a perfectly good running motor, they dont have the skills or the knowledge, tools or space to do it. A turbo kit can be installed in a day. The machine work and everything else that is involved with what you have done would take atleast a few days,even with a skilled mechanic.
    I wasn't trying to tell him which way to go, as I said, it's all what will make him happy. I spent a good deal of money, I won't go into specifics. I also put in a JDM ITR LSD and had my tranny taken down. I didn't mention the Competition Clutch Kevlar Carbonite clutch I put in. I was just trying to throw some info out there and maybe he would decide which way to go. As I said, I couldn't remember if he had a VTEC car or LS. BTW, Vteckidd, he has eibach springs and Koni Yellow shocks already for suspension upgrades. I simply wanted to give him some options. If his engine is an LS and he wants to stay stock, then boost 100%. If he wants to run a different engine, then NA is an option.

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