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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Also times are times. If we are talking about winning events, times play a part but not the whole picture. You can run a 9 in round 1 but if you can't back it up or keep the car together who cares. So you can come on the Internet and say "Ooooo I ran a faster time" but matt doesn't street race. He WINS EVENTS. Or comes pretty close to doing it.

    I mean all I heard was all this talk about this midnight auto hatch. And did it even make a pass? I heard it broke. Sucks for them but a "xx second" car means shit if it doesn't make it down the track. Hope they get it together

    Show up an beat him, or shut up.

    I remember monys car running low 10s wit like 500-550whp. Crazy times happen. I've seen a ton of cars run super fast with way less power than others so what ? There's also magic tracks. Magic passes,etc

    Why is commerce so slow? Reynolds and silver dollar so fast?

    I will also say this, I think MAINSTREAMS NEW DYNO reads high. Their new roller I think reads 5-10% higher.

    I mean my stock itr made 200whp
    A host of h22s making like 240-250whp when almost exact same setups never came close to it
    A stock block k20a making 235-240whp when NO OTHER K SERIES CAME WITHIN 220 with MORE MODS.

    But that is my opinion. Woul be interesting to see someone dyno front vs back roller
    The first set up i built made 226 and was the same motor as jasons . His dynoed 227 but who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h22 jones View Post
    The first set up i built made 226 and was the same motor as jasons . His dynoed 227 but who knows.
    Im not saying yours ISNT a 250whp motor at all, im just saying there have been some inconsistent numbers coming out of there, but maybe parts are just that much better nowadays.

    I remember if you made 190 you were THE MAN, and my Stock ITR motor with a header made 199. Rediculous. Conversely i cant tell you at least 20 ITR motors that dynoed on mainstreams OLD roller that never made 190 with more mods or similar mods, tuned by the same person.

    Jasons was a car that always susprised me too , his was a weird motor, i never would have guess it made that much, and i never would have guessed a mild h23 vtec would make 250. But then again i dont know everything either :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Im not saying yours ISNT a 250whp motor at all, im just saying there have been some inconsistent numbers coming out of there, but maybe parts are just that much better nowadays.

    I remember if you made 190 you were THE MAN, and my Stock ITR motor with a header made 199. Rediculous. Conversely i cant tell you at least 20 ITR motors that dynoed on mainstreams OLD roller that never made 190 with more mods or similar mods, tuned by the same person.

    Jasons was a car that always susprised me too , his was a weird motor, i never would have guess it made that much, and i never would have guessed a mild h23 vtec would make 250. But then again i dont know everything either :P

    I was more or less just thinking out loud
    O so this is how I make 850plus whp I can just putt my car on mainstreams dyno lol... guy hp is only a number only number that matters is the one that pops up at the end of the track... some ppl make over 800 and run tens and some only make 500 and run the same tens. But all that really matters is who's in front when you cross the line
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    Quote Originally Posted by justnprsh07 View Post
    O so this is how I make 850plus whp I can just putt my car on mainstreams dyno lol... guy hp is only a number only number that matters is the one that pops up at the end of the track... some ppl make over 800 and run tens and some only make 500 and run the same tens. But all that really matters is who's in front when you cross the line
    justin i promise you mike (kidd racing )knows what hp is lol. We have been friends for along time and were just having a discussion he is not talking shit lol. Man is everybody in this thread touchy and ready to snap lmao.

    back in the day jasons motor would have been nasty if would have let me tear it down and go through it to start with instead of trusting ole dude from nc lol. it didnt last no time. Point is if you pull the oil pan off a brand new never been run motor and its full of dirt odds are its not going to last that long lol. i tried to tell him.

    252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111

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    Quote Originally Posted by h22 jones View Post
    justin i promise you mike (kidd racing )knows what hp is lol. We have been friends for along time and were just having a discussion he is not talking shit lol. Man is everybody in this thread touchy and ready to snap lmao.

    back in the day jasons motor would have been nasty if would have let me tear it down and go through it to start with instead of trusting ole dude from nc lol. it didnt last no time. Point is if you pull the oil pan off a brand new never been run motor and its full of dirt odds are its not going to last that long lol. i tried to tell him.
    i just like the fact that he said mainstreams dyno "reads high" makes alot of scence if it does bc ive seen some shit come out of there ppl claming makes way more pwr than it should
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    looking at the times from Showdown, HP aint shit if u cant get it to the ground. high or low dyno numbers the slip completes the story.

    Quote Originally Posted by justnprsh07 View Post
    i just like the fact that he said mainstreams dyno "reads high" makes alot of scence if it does bc ive seen some shit come out of there ppl claming makes way more pwr than it should
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    Quote Originally Posted by *EFilliated* View Post
    looking at the times from Showdown, HP aint shit if u cant get it to the ground. high or low dyno numbers the slip completes the story.
    True story!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by *EFilliated* View Post
    looking at the times from Showdown, HP aint shit if u cant get it to the ground. high or low dyno numbers the slip completes the story.
    So true just think its funny that's all... I myself have a car that can make the hp to get into the 9s but does that mean I have a nine sec car? I wish lol right now I got a twelve sec car one bc I havnt got a full pass yet and two bc I cantquit breaking Shit but owell I like my 12 sec car lol
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