Newnan meets

[Homer Simpson]

^^

thats creeppy!

[Homer Simpson]

this is creepy too

[smoknlegend]

Im ready to race how bout you?

[h23bb2]

Omg so many fucking numbers and letters
is there a jap auto dictionary w/ this shit on it

all I know is what an s14 is

^x2

HAhahaha
Its easy. There's D series, B series, H series, F series, K series, L series, R series, J series and C series.
The next two digits are the engine displacement. D15= a D series that's 1.5 liters in displacement.
J's and C's are v6's in accords, legends, RL's TL's, CL's, NSX's, Passports, Odessy's and Ridglines.
D series were mainly in Civics, Del Sol's, and CRX's here in the states and were 1.5-1.7 liters and sohc (save for the ZC, but that's a whole other story, kinda. as are the 1986-1989 Acura integra D16's which were also dohc).
B series are super easy swaps into almost all D series cars. The B's came in integra's, some civics, and del sols here in the states as well as CRV's. (NOTE: there was an early B series motor B20a and B21 that were in 3rd gen Preludes and share nothing in common with the rest of the B family or the commonly used B20B or B20Z motors). B series range in displacement from 1.6-2 liters and are all dohc.
H and F series are very similar. Most F's are sohc while all H series are dohc. Both H's and F's range from 2-2.3 liters of displacement and came in accords, preludes, and S2000's (early honda oddessy's as well). They were known as "Honda's Big Block" back in the day.
The K series replaced the B and H series as Honda's high performance 4 cylinder of choice in 2002 when introduced in the then new RSX and EP3 civic Si hatch, but also came/comes in Accords, TSX's, CRV's and Elements. These are all dohc motors and range from 2-2.4 liters.
I think there's only two L series motors in the states anfd they both came in Fits with 1.5 liters of displacement and are sohc motors.
Finally the R series is in the latest generation civcs as the D series replacement. They're 1.8 liters and sohc.


I'm sure I missed/left out alot, but I'm at work and don't have my database with me so its all off the top of my head- so cut me some slack! lol

[Sawyer]

That's pretty good for being off the top or your head. I don't know a damn thing about Hondas, so that helps me out a lot! Thanks Steve!

[h23bb2]

No its not good. I can remember this, but my mother's birthday? nope.
lol
I've been into hondas for a long time, and was a lonely homeschooled boy with ALOT of spare time so i learned alot over the last 8 and a half years. lol
I'm liking the scooby more and more these days, and starting to get over the whole "sell it and get another Honda" thing, but I still have a soft spot for any clean mild or wild honda.

[Bacon]

I like simplicity too:

EF - 88-91 civic
EG - 92-95 civic
EK - 96-00 civic
DA - 90-93 integra
DC - 94-01 integra
s13 - 89-94 240sx
s14 - 95-99 240sx

[h23bb2]

BB21/2/4 and BA% Prelude
BB6 = 97-01 Prelude
EM1 = 99-00 Civic Si
EH = 92-95 hatches
EJ= all coupes from 92-00
EP3 = 02-05 Civic Si
DC5 = 02-06 RSX

I'm not as up on my chasis codes as i should be

[Schroeder]

Just got back from the Dyno at Allspeed. Slocus, sorry bout not calling you but I was having issues with my A/F Ratio and was constantly tearing my carb apart and re-jetting / Rodding it so I didn't think anyone would want to be around for that. Combo did o.k. I guess, my A/F ratio is WAY off below 4.5K and I couldn't get it to come back up with my Jetting kit I had. I believe I am over carbed and need to drop down to a 650 Holley and junk this 750 Edelbrock. I ended up gaining 18HP and 15 Torque overall. Like I said it needs a different carb and more tuning!

[Bacon]

Those are some good numbers there Schroeder.

H23bb2, here is the list i use for reference: Chassis Codes

[tnomud]

a 750 double pumper is perfect for that car, assuming the displacement is around 350-400. Leaning it out any more will hurt your bottom end torque numbers. I think a 650 won't get the job done up top looking at your top end HP numbers.

What are you running for fuel pressure and timing control? Mor timing on the bottom end will fix the fuel ratio down low.

[Schroeder]

a 750 double pumper is perfect for that car, assuming the displacement is around 350-400. Leaning it out any more will hurt your bottom end torque numbers. I think a 650 won't get the job done up top looking at your top end HP numbers.

What are you running for fuel pressure and timing control? Mor timing on the bottom end will fix the fuel ratio down low.

I'm sitting at about 9 psi just idleing. As for the timing I was at 18 deg base, but dropped it down to 15 for the last run. and Displacement is 358 c.i.

[Sawyer]

STV and Steve both rep'd for having superior knowledge

Edit: I have to spread rep before I can give it back to you Steve, sorry!

[Schroeder]

My biggest problem is I know jack #### about carb tuning. As if that wasn't evident already! This is the first car I've built that has had a carb so I'm really out of the loop on this one. The one thing I didn't try was dropping the stroke on the accelerator pump down a notch. Don't know if that would have done it or not.

[wonton]

Hell yeah Sean! Good priorities

yeah buddy!

im gonna go take more welding classed (MIG and TIG), blueprint and schematics, machining and fabricating, and a few other things! i need to gets a part time job first!

haha wtf!

[bbuba]

I'd rep but I need to spread it around

HAhahaha
Its easy. There's D series, B series, H series, F series, K series, L series, R series, J series and C series.
The next two digits are the engine displacement. D15= a D series that's 1.5 liters in displacement.
J's and C's are v6's in accords, legends, RL's TL's, CL's, NSX's, Passports, Odessy's and Ridglines.
D series were mainly in Civics, Del Sol's, and CRX's here in the states and were 1.5-1.7 liters and sohc (save for the ZC, but that's a whole other story, kinda. as are the 1986-1989 Acura integra D16's which were also dohc).
B series are super easy swaps into almost all D series cars. The B's came in integra's, some civics, and del sols here in the states as well as CRV's. (NOTE: there was an early B series motor B20a and B21 that were in 3rd gen Preludes and share nothing in common with the rest of the B family or the commonly used B20B or B20Z motors). B series range in displacement from 1.6-2 liters and are all dohc.
H and F series are very similar. Most F's are sohc while all H series are dohc. Both H's and F's range from 2-2.3 liters of displacement and came in accords, preludes, and S2000's (early honda oddessy's as well). They were known as "Honda's Big Block" back in the day.
The K series replaced the B and H series as Honda's high performance 4 cylinder of choice in 2002 when introduced in the then new RSX and EP3 civic Si hatch, but also came/comes in Accords, TSX's, CRV's and Elements. These are all dohc motors and range from 2-2.4 liters.
I think there's only two L series motors in the states anfd they both came in Fits with 1.5 liters of displacement and are sohc motors.
Finally the R series is in the latest generation civcs as the D series replacement. They're 1.8 liters and sohc.


I'm sure I missed/left out alot, but I'm at work and don't have my database with me so its all off the top of my head- so cut me some slack! lol

[bbuba]

My biggest problem is I know jack #### about carb tuning. As if that wasn't evident already! This is the first car I've built that has had a carb so I'm really out of the loop on this one. The one thing I didn't try was dropping the stroke on the accelerator pump down a notch. Don't know if that would have done it or not.

Muscle car on spike is doing a special carb part for a couple weeks

[h23bb2]

Those are some good numbers there Schroeder.

H23bb2, here is the list i use for reference: Chassis Codes

Yeah, I've got one or two lists on my computer at home I reference if needed. Motors and their variances are more important. lol

I'm sitting at about 9 psi just idleing. As for the timing I was at 18 deg base, but dropped it down to 15 for the last run. and Displacement is 358 c.i.

How much do you have invested in the setup? And what kinda power do you think it CAN make?

STV and Steve both rep'd for having superior knowledge

Edit: I have to spread rep before I can give it back to you Steve, sorry!

lol Its cool LB. ThanX

I'd rep but I need to spread it around

Again, thanx. I appreciate it.

[tnomud]

My biggest problem is I know jack #### about carb tuning. As if that wasn't evident already! This is the first car I've built that has had a carb so I'm really out of the loop on this one. The one thing I didn't try was dropping the stroke on the accelerator pump down a notch. Don't know if that would have done it or not.

Carbs are magic, especially Holley. Buy a Demon if you want more consistency.

Don't mess too much with the Accelerator Pump, use it as a last resort. Do you have a regulator on there? Is it vac. or mechanical advance?

Running rich down low probably helped you in the torque department. Keep in mind, you pulled on a 61 degree day with 7% humidity and todays barometer was pretty high. Run it on a 85 degree June day here and I bet you are right on the money. Slap some quick adjustability on there (like and adjustable regulator) and run it. When it warms up, add more than 9PSI. Now, back it down to 8.5 and see what happens.

Is you are running a hig power ignition, this can commonly show as "rich down low" on the dyno. Systems like the 6AL need tons of voltage at low RPM's, 12.5V wont always cut it and make it appear rich down low.

Personally, I am a timing guy on V8's. The larger the displacement, the more power you can get from timing.

[Schroeder]

How much do you have invested in the setup? And what kinda power do you think it CAN make?

I think it should be capable of 370 - 380 HP and associated torque. I see alot of people running this much with very similar setups.

Carbs are magic, especially Holley. Buy a Demon if you want more consistency.

Do you have a regulator on there? Is it vac. or mechanical advance?


Is you are running a hig power ignition, this can commonly show as "rich down low" on the dyno. Systems like the 6AL need tons of voltage at low RPM's, 12.5V wont always cut it and make it appear rich down low.

Right now I do not have a reg on it. That IS my very next purchase. As for the Ignition, its a stock Dura-spark II Vac adv setup.


I am happy overall, just a little dissapointed with the Peak HP and of course the A/F below 4K.

I gained 18 HP and 15 Tq for an hours worth of work with little effort and also gained alot of driveability. I noticed the power comes on alot more smooth since jetting it different.

[SHHHH]

Very good numbers Jason!

I knew you'd dyno like 100hp more then me, you bastard!

[Schroeder]

Yeah, it's the digital wideband. It has gauge and all the wiring with it. It came off of my 1g DSM.

Check your Pm's

[Schroeder]

Very good numbers Jason!

I knew you'd dyno like 100hp more then me, you bastard!

I know the real truth!!!

[Mr Egg Rollllll]

whew...fixed my front end...and put new HID's in...accomplished today's goals rather early.

[smoknlegend]

how hard are front camber kits to install on a civic?

[Mr Egg Rollllll]

how hard are front camber kits to install on a civic?

Everything on a Civic is easy to do. Camber kits aren't too bad.

[smoknlegend]

Everything on a Civic is easy to do. Camber kits aren't too bad.

k i figure if i get wheels and tires i might as well get the camber kit too, rather spend 200 now and get front and rear than spend 200 in a couple months when my camber kills the tires.

[smoknlegend]

i havent seen ricer post in a few days....you still out there ricer?

[Schroeder]

i havent seen ricer post in a few days....you still out there ricer?

I stopped by the shop today after my Dyno runs. He said something about avoiding you because of some un-wanted pregnancy or a reach-around or something along those lines.


JK!!!

[tnomud]

I stopped by the shop today after my Dyno runs. He said something about avoiding you because of some un-wanted pregnancy or a reach-around or something along those lines.


JK!!!

and something about a turkey baster

[smoknlegend]

I guess doug gave me the wrong stuff then, cause i honestly dont remember that shit.....

[wonton]

i think ricer is lucking!

i have a rep i got from him today in this thread!

[Ricer]

..i got nothin.. lol

[Bacon]

rep'd back

[tnomud]

..i got nothin.. lol

i got somethin for ya

[chriskm]

A friend of mine came by to pick up my old tv. He asked me if I wanted to race this dude.
I ask him who it was. "Chant".

NO MOTHERFUCKER. 700 HORSEPOWER TWIN TURBO NSX?! NO.

[Homer Simpson]

A friend of mine came by to pick up my old tv. He asked me if I wanted to race this dude.
I ask him who it was. "Chant".

NO MOTHERFUCKER. 700 HORSEPOWER TWIN TURBO NSX?! NO.

i don't think chant's nsx is boosted anymore

[DustnU]

How was the Sunday nite street scene???? I might have a new whip soon to show off, Hatch Hint Hint!!!

[Bacon]

mmm.....boosted nsx.....om nom nom

[Homer Simpson]

How was the Sunday nite street scene???? I might have a new whip soon to show off, Hatch Hint Hint!!!

man, that junk was weak as crap. we didn't even see a race. Just police and Honda's geting towed away.

Wasted gas and time, ftl!

Glad I didn't drive