clippers are more than one piece away..... i just think doc knows his team and what they need.... he's in charge and makes the decisions. thats extremely valuable. lets see where it goes.....
because collison, granger, and big baby are gone......
clippers are more than one piece away..... i just think doc knows his team and what they need.... he's in charge and makes the decisions. thats extremely valuable. lets see where it goes.....
because collison, granger, and big baby are gone......
I just cant take a team built around blake griffin seriously. I view him about like tony romo. I view the rockets blazers and clips as equals on tier 2 of the western conf.Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe
Not really taking the warriors serious with or without love.
What team you know is built around Blake griffin? The clippers are Built around the all nba first team PG. Rockets were swept by the clippers and so were the blazers. View it how you want. If you make the top tier 2 teams and the rest of the west as teir 2, that's on you. Just know every season is different. I'm sure sterling won't be apart of the 2015 season either..... Who knows what will happen, the nba is a league of matchups in the playoffs.
Last i heard, sterlings doctor declared him mentally incompetent, so hes out of the decision making process.
I think the blazers are on the rise. Lillard is only gonna get better. LMA is already a force.
So espn insider lists san antonio as lebrons top destination and they seem to be trying to push that idea....... LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Yeah right.
Doc rivers is making the basketball decisions.
The blazers need a lot of pieces, and depending on who they play lillard is ineffective against us and honestly lma is nothing the clippers fear. They definitely need more pieces of they meet us, we crush them every time we play them. It's clear the difference between cp3 and lillard.
Why would he want to go to San Antonio Texas?
Theres zero chance of lebron going to the spurs. Its funny that espn is talking about it.
Id rather live in SA than Miami..... but i doubt me and lebron have that in common. Besides, when ur as rich as lebron, you dint live anywhere, you live everywhere.
Each team plays 41 home and 41 away. 50 in your conference and 32 in the other conference. Lebron would never want to play half the season in San Antonio Texas. End of that story.
I think the Clippers are 1 piece away. 1 REALLY GOOD Small Forward away. Blake and CP3 cant be the focus of their team, it has to be a MELO type guy. Name me the guard that CP3 can depend on or the PNR Big he can really count on?
He doesnt have one, and that is why Ill never take them seriously until they get a stretch 4 or SF of Melos caliber. Griffin is a tremendous talent, and hes gotten that Jumper down, but its EASY to defend in the playoffs when you can commit 1 guy to stopping him thats as athletic as he is (Ibaka). He will still get his points, but as long as the other team stays close, the Clippers have NO CLOSER. They need that guy that can carry them and shoot off the dribble, BG is not that guy. if you watch him play, you cant possibly think hes as good as LMA or Love (more athletic, YES) but not a BETTER player overall. hes an ELITE athlete. But hes not getting you the game winning bucket when you need it.
CP3 is just too small and he doesnt have the athleticism of Rose to explode and go up. hes got elite handles and passing but he needs off ball movement from his players to thrive. He makes Reddick look GREAT, he needs more guys like that. Personally I would trade Melo straight up for BG. you can get away with a rebounding PF and a Melo vs BG and no real SF. I Just think Melos game fits the clippers style more than BG. BG needs to go to a team like OKC or Houston , run and gun, not offensive set, street ball with elite outside shooters.
Clippers dont have any ELITE outside shooters. Crawford and Reddick are GREAT shooters, but you arent trusting them in crunch time. Too streaky. Im talking ELITE like Melo,WB, KD, Harden, Klay, etc
Clippers I think will look hard at maybe a Parsons (if melo goes to Houston). Parsons would be phenomenal in the clippers system.
Oh and ZERO shot LBJ leaves Miami. He either opts in for 1 more year, or signs a longer extension because Wade takes less money
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Melo to the bulls. Book it
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I Just cant see that being a smart decision. They will gut their team to get him. Im not saying he WONT do it, but I dont think its smart. They WILL HAVE TO
Amnesty Boozer
Trade Taj Gibson and 1 other player to even have enough room to sign Melo.
Is Melo going to risk his career on D Rose knees?
If Rose is DONE, their lineup would be:
Noah
Melo
???
???
???
Kirk HInrich? DJ Augustin? Tony Snell ? LOL
They have the 16 and 19 picks, but cmon.........
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Rose-melo-lebron-noah-???
Lebron opts out. The plot thickens
Not really. He was never opting in. Be interesting to see what wade does now. Pressure on him
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I stand by my original prediction, if wade and bosh dont take cuts, lbj walks.........
To chicago.
Never Chicago. Chicago isnt even preparing for him , they wont pitch him, they want melo.
He doesnt go back to Miami, CLE is the only other option in the east IMO.
Wade could opt in and I could see LBJ staying, but they would have to trade Bosh
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If Lebron leaves miami he will be a clipper. He will join his best friend in Los Angeles.
The pressure is on Riley and wade!!!!
Also if melo goes to Chicago, that will be a MAJOR factor in lebrons decision. Melo to the bulls means lebrons heat team won't be able to beat that team. He knows it..... That will almost force him to leave!
But. If melo goes west that changes things for lebron too.....
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Lebron won't play for that owner again. And he wouldn't sign with the clippers until ballmer owns the team......
Knicks and mavs trade...... What u guys think?
I would rank his options as:
Miami
Cleveland (LONG SHOT)
Clippers (Longer Shot)
I dont think hes interested in going anywhere else. West has to be at the bottom of his list. Why go west, yeah hes buddies with CP3 and respects Doc, but the West is BRUTAL.
Disagree. I think the Heat come back INTACT and they still are favored over a Melo lead Bulls mainly because we dont know what happens with Rose. They POTENTIALLY have the better team, but Rose <= Wade, Bosh and Noah are kind of even in terms of production, LBJ> MeloAlso if melo goes to Chicago, that will be a MAJOR factor in lebrons decision. Melo to the bulls means lebrons heat team won't be able to beat that team. He knows it..... That will almost force him to leave!
But. If melo goes west that changes things for lebron too.....
Bulls have to GUT their team to get Melo, they will NOT HAVE BOOZER , TAJ GIBSON, AND 1 other player.
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I dont understand it really, def makes the Mavs better, but 2 draft picks and all that?
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I think one thing a lot of people don't know about black men, we don't take kindly to white people disrespecting us. He will never go to Cleveland again as long as they have the same owner. Same with the clippers, he would never sign until ballmer is the official owner. The west isn't brutal when you have the best pg and SF in the nba.
If melo goes to Chicago, they would be better even if rose didn't play. Taj wouldn't have to leave, boozer would.
Wade is done and they can't keep playing bosh out of position. And the east is rapidly catching up to them.... They are old and slow. Miami was the 4th best team THIS season. They stay together, they will be worse than 4th next season. The nba is rapidly building their teams.... Lebron will be smart....
But his decision comes after melo signs, wade and bosh decide, and Riley makes some moves and smart drafts.
Trust me........ white ppl know all about black men and what theyre offended by..... so does every other race on the planet. Weve all been getting the daily memo for most of our lives. I know more about what offends black ppl than i do my own family.
One thing that hasnt been talked about is if draft position will be a factor. Maybe lebron would want to mentor a young wiggins or jabari parker. This years draft is special
Based on that letter, white people didn't send the memo to the cavs owner. He's still paying for that childish slave mentality letter to this day and probably for the next 10 years too.
And bad choice not taking Parker, they will regret that decision too!
Over cp3, lol. God father to his son man, he doesn't care about some young kid going to Cleveland or the bucks.
If he leaves the heat, there's only one option.
Black ppl think everything has to do with racism. You cant just be an asshole.... it has to be racist. Ironically, the most easily offended are also the most offensive. We have to walk on eggshells for black ppl as they bounce around like a bull in a china shop.
Moving on..
Jabari to the bucks..... that sucks.
Cavs follow up anthony bennet by passing on parker.... maybe they didnt deserve lebron.
Smart to the celts, will rondo be on the block soon?
Well thats that. Heat in the finals again next year.
Drafted an upgrade at pg and looks like theyre freeing up cap space
JCRAW trying to play for every team
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BOOZER IS FUCKING TRASH!!!!!!!!! we still have butler...Gibson..i'm up in the air, but i rather him not leave. The team is built on defense...it's like everyone plays defense except Boozer....all they need is a solid nightly scorer
no he's trying to get the deal he deserves before teams say he's "too old to make that much" ..... because let's be honest.... he HAS and DOES deserve more money. With the hawks, portland, clippers etc he has notoriously been heavily underpaid for his contributions to a team. I'm so sick of people saying "he doesn't play any defense" ..... well i watch A LOT of NBA, and NEVER..... I MEAN NEVER, have I watched a game and said...... crawford's getting killed tonight, take him out........
so he's not a defensive specialist? Who cares? Neither is "melo" or harden..... but he definitely deserves more if a player like lin can make what he makes........
but the only way he leaves is in a sign and trade for Lebron from Miami.
He's under contract one more season, and Doc will give him more money next year or trade him then. He doesn't wanna lose Crawfords scoring ability and the fact he's cheap $ on your roster.... lets see what happens!
i agree. boozer sucks, but everyone's ALWAYS knew that.... just NOT bulls people.......
you guys REALLY need bosh over pretty much everybody (with the exception of lebron.... who we knows will never play for the damn bulls)...... what he would do for your team would do WONDERS!
Let's start looking for teams to hop on Bosh right after melo decides what he's going to do. Miami's not gonna be able to pay him 5 years/90 million......
Crawford is a 1 trick pony. Hes a poor poor mans Carmelo. He only does 1 thing REALLY good and he doesnt do that very well either. Hes a scorer, a STREAKY scorer. Hes not athletic, he doesnt rebound, hes a ball stopper, he has VERY low BBall IQ, hes really a specialist and thats why EVERY team has no problem renting him for a few years and then letting him go.
Hes just not a difference maker, theres 100 guys in the league like him. hes a less tempermental JR SMITH. A better shooter too, but not by a lot.
Still think its all a rouse. Melo back to KNICKS, if hes going to play for a bad team, why play for the team that will have NO CAP space next year (LAKERS).
LBJ, Cavs are a nice story, but still think he and Riley are colluding into something bigger. Ill let it play out before I say what it means but I think they are forcing people out without being the bad guy.
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i suppose you didnt watch much crawford this year with the clippers? He's a sixth man homie, not a starting SG in the nba. he is heavily underpaid for his instant scoring and play making ability.... he had a lot of high assist games this past season. he averages over 18ppg OFF THE BENCH for the highest scoring team in the league.
let's stop acting like the clippers have ANY scoring issues....
their issues are in the 3-4-5 positions.... their defensive weaknesses, FT shooting and overall TOUGHNESS.... once that goes away they will go far... if they stay soft in the paint they will continue to lose....
name the other 100 guys like crawford in the NBA. i can't think of one, especially not off anybodys bench.....
Then why are the clippers shopping him if hes such a great player? WHy is he never on a team for longer than like 3 years? Hes EXTREMELY low Basketball IQ. He is a 1 on 1 player, thats it. Hes a great scorer off the bench, hes not a starter because hes not good enough to be 1.
Jamal Crawford is an AND1 Mixtape player, hes not very good at anything else.
There have been 100 guys like him. JR Smith,Swaggy P, Reddick, Manu, Korver, Lou Williams, Harden, there have been tons of sixth men, or near 6th men who were just like him and get traded and let go. He shoots 41% and 36from 3.their issues are in the 3-4-5 positions.... their defensive weaknesses, FT shooting and overall TOUGHNESS.... once that goes away they will go far... if they stay soft in the paint they will continue to lose....
name the other 100 guys like crawford in the NBA. i can't think of one, especially not off anybodys bench.....
HES A SCORER, HE DOESNT DO MUCH ELSE. Youre a homer, you cant talk bad about him because you wont ever talk bad about the clippers.
3-4-5 are their issues. They have no SF, the 4 is fine, I mean you have MVP BLAKE BRO!!! DJ is about as good as any other C in the league.
No I think your problem is more of the fact that CP3 isnt a game changer. He cant close the deal, and when the game is on the line, you need a closer. Hes not one because hes 6 ft tall.
You need a ELITE SF or Stretch 4. Until they do that, Clippers will get bounced by the far superior teams.
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okay skip. call me when you get your own opinion. the conversation will mean more then......
LOL disagree with you and you have 2 responses
1) I dont watch NBA games I only watch SportsCenter
2) You compare me to Skip Bayless.
Come on man be a little more original
Look proof is in the pudding. Clippers are 2nd round exits. They are not good in the playoffs. Guys blame the coach, the cast, etc when in reality its a little like what people with basketball IQ see. The Clippers DONT HAVE A CLOSER. CP3 is NOT a closer. BG can NOT hit your game winning shot and he cannot get you a bucket when you REALLY need it. He cant pull up off the dribble.
Crawford is streaky, EVERYONE knows this. If Crawford is SO GREAT how come hes on his 7th team and that team was ACTIVELY shopping him? hes injury prone, hes streaky, and he is a 1 trick pony. Hes a POOR mans Carmelo. He doesnt rebound, he doesnt pass, he doesnt play defense. Hes a 1 on 1 AND1 MIXTAPE scorer. Which is GREAT for a bench player, but it doesnt work well in the playoffs.
The Spurs just showed you what works, its passing and a team game. Clippers need their closer, until they get that, no chips for you
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Let's get a few things clear.LOL disagree with you and you have 2 responses
1) I dont watch NBA games I only watch SportsCenter
2) You compare me to Skip Bayless.
Come on man be a little more original
Look proof is in the pudding. Clippers are 2nd round exits. They are not good in the playoffs. Guys blame the coach, the cast, etc when in reality its a little like what people with basketball IQ see. The Clippers DONT HAVE A CLOSER. CP3 is NOT a closer. BG can NOT hit your game winning shot and he cannot get you a bucket when you REALLY need it. He cant pull up off the dribble.
Crawford is streaky, EVERYONE knows this. If Crawford is SO GREAT how come hes on his 7th team and that team was ACTIVELY shopping him? hes injury prone, hes streaky, and he is a 1 trick pony. Hes a POOR mans Carmelo. He doesnt rebound, he doesnt pass, he doesnt play defense. Hes a 1 on 1 AND1 MIXTAPE scorer. Which is GREAT for a bench player, but it doesnt work well in the playoffs.
The Spurs just showed you what works, its passing and a team game. Clippers need their closer, until they get that, no chips for you
1. When you make stupid comment, you get ignored.
2. Great players can win you 1-2 games in a playoff series based on GAMECHANGER play. They DON'T win SERIES for you against ELITE competition.
3. I KNOW 99.9% of what you say about CP3 comes from Skips opinion, even your wording is identical to his..... the difference between you and him is..... he doesn't acknowledge CP3 being a superstar because of what FITS he used to give the REAL spurs teams and the REAL LAKER teams......
Remember............MF....... Remember?
2008 PLAYOFFS..... not a gamechanger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcrdwHcyht8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqtprNCcGNU
2011 PLAYOFFS....... kobe,gasol,bynum,fisher,odom, etc..... not a game changer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVosM5foJxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYz0bie7HIw
THATS WHY bayless say's he's not a superstar..... he's hit more game winning shots than lebron and carmelo in his career. look it up. im tired of going back and forth on topics already set in stone. he is the best PG in the league, if you say he's not... okay thats fine..... but only a complete idiot would honestly say there are 3 PG's in todays game he would rather have.... Now taking the COMPLETE clipper team? Hell NO i agree.....
Crawford is making 4.25 million dollars. Stop acting like he's not playing considerably more than his worth.....
100 players like him? only one sixth man award given.... he is the best in the game at scoring impact off the bench....nothing more nothing less man. and he doesn't pass? LMAO..... like i said... keep watching the highlights man, i'll keep my league pass up to date.
The clippers lack championship defense. I've said it once and i will say it again. When the defense is Elite they will take the next step. They were the 3-4 Best team in the NBA last year. Defense will make you climb the ladder.
BTW you are arguing offensive points to the best scoring team in the world. How much more ridiculous could you sound?
he's been a game changer and closer for years..... were you knee deep in that NFL-NCAA football crap back in 2011 and before?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ-bFY8ZIgY
the fact remains, you need a complete ROSTER in the NBA. this isn't football, different sport. ask jordan, even his 61 points didn't push him past bird. and i think we can all argue the spurs teams dominance in NBA history.... or a guy named kobe.
but all in all man, the clippers are fine. they are young and upcoming. paul should be on this team for at least 6-7 more years. they should be good for 1-2 rings in those 7 years if doc/paul/blake/jordan all stay and continue building.
hes 29 bro. hes about out of his prime. They arent winning a title in the next 2 years, not with that roster. What moves did they make over Free Agency?
Spurs reloaded
OKC will be better or the same
Blazers are coming
I just dont see them being better than the :
Grizzlies
Spurs
OKC
Blazers
Sorry. They might win the division again and people will be all on their bandwagon, but, they will lose in the 2nd round
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Awesome highlights that resulted in:
NBA 2011 Playoffs:
Lost NBA Western Conference First Round (4-2) versus Los Angeles Lakers
NBA 2010 Playoffs:
Didnt make playoffs
NBA 2009 Playoffs:
Lost NBA Western Conference First Round (4-1) versus Denver Nuggets
NBA 2008 Playoffs:
Lost NBA Western Conference Semifinals (4-3) versus San Antonio Spurs
Chris Paul, the perennial 1st round exit person.
All you Cp3 apologists have made excuses for him, its his team, his coach, his supporting cast, his height etc. I think he is a Top 5 PG. I think he is an ELITE talent. But hes like Melo/Love etc. Lots of stats, no postseason.
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