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    what'd everyone think about the first episode? i couldn't believe how badly abe was bleeding, that guy had no answers for his opponent.

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    Agreed. I don't think I have ever seen a guy bleed that much in a fight.

    I think Rashad's team will dominate. He just really seems to think stuff out a lot more and picked the smarter fighters. I also think Kimbo will not do very much. He is huge as fuck but he doesn't have great MMA skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nreggie454 View Post
    I think Rashad's team will dominate. He just really seems to think stuff out a lot more and picked the smarter fighters. I also think Kimbo will not do very much. He is huge as fuck but he doesn't have great MMA skills.
    Agreed 100%. Rampage is gonna do as bad as he did last time as a coach. Rashads team is all skill in my eyes. Hell, look a Marcus (the 9 foot tall football player). That dude had NO cardio. He wont last past the first round of his first fight.

    I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE KIMBO LOSE!!!! Real talk. I think he is an excellent backyard brawler but MMA will own him.

    But Gabe got fucked up!! The trainer said he could see the skull. Thats some shit right there.

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    ABE, not gabe...and yes, i can't wait to see kimbo in the ring as well as the former nfl player.

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    is there any way i can catch it online?

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    that dude had a huge cut on his head.he laid there and got dominated i hate fights that stay on the ground the whole time it bores the hell out of me.

    i cant wait to see kimbo in the ring, hes a bad man ,those guys need to take him a little more seriously i think he wants it more than anyone there i could kinda see it in his eyes hehehe
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    Abe, Gabe, whatever. He got his ass handed to him. He wont be mentioned again this season so it doesnt matter, lol.

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    Abe didn't have any heart.. his opp kept throwing 2 punches and shot for the takedown... and he couldnt pick it up and kept getting taken down.... and for how much BJJ thy should abe doing in practice not once did he try for a submission... LOL


    I hope Kimbo wins ! LOL maybe rampage can teach him takedown defense..lol

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    I missed this. Is there any way to watch this episode online?

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    Will be a good one, all heavyweights lol crazy. Dont say Kimbo will get beat so easily.. he has been training MMA for atleast a year or more now. Brock came in and did huge damage over a year of MMA training. Kimbo should do good against these guys, not saying the pro's in UFC atm but might do good on season. Regardless season looks to be a good one.

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    damn I forgot about this. Wednesdays at 10 on Spike right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    damn I forgot about this. Wednesdays at 10 on Spike right?
    True statement!

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    Kimbo losing quick or winning the whole show, doesnt matter. It will be a great season. Im glad they finally did an all heavyweight show. The only other time they had them was when Rashad won it. That was only half the guys and hes not even a HW anymore. These guys are HW and dont look like they will be cutting 20+ lbs anytime soon.

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    My grandma has better takedown defense than Abe. It was kind of funny when he said, "Well I expect John to take me down, but once we're on the ground I'll be in my [jiu-jitsu] element." So much for that, hahaha.

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    I thought the short guy was kinda cocky when he came out and yelled but he changed my mind real quick on the first takedown. I figured Abe would have put together atleast one combination when the ref stood em back up but.....nope dropped again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greddypacked View Post
    Will be a good one, all heavyweights lol crazy. Dont say Kimbo will get beat so easily.. he has been training MMA for atleast a year or more now. Brock came in and did huge damage over a year of MMA training. Kimbo should do good against these guys, not saying the pro's in UFC atm but might do good on season. Regardless season looks to be a good one.
    No, this is not correct, nor is it a fair comparison. Kimbo has NO background in fighting, except for some backyard fights with untrained bums. Brock was a D1 NCAA champ, and has probably the best base for MMA in wrestling. Beyond that, Brock trains like a PRO, and has trained with top guys for the past 3yrs now. He didn't do anything with a year of MMA training. Hell, he didn't even fight until he had 8 months of training, and that fight was against a total CAN. His first fight with Frank Mir was after almost 2yrs of CONSTANT training with Greg Nelson.

    On the other hand, Kimbo hasn't put forth the same effort that Brock has, and this is evident in the fact that Bas no longer wanted to train him because of him being slack in the gym. Kimbo has to show some serious dedication to make it in MMA. He's small for a HW, and it would probably suit him best to drop down to LHW. If he can do that, he'll show some dedication to getting better, as dieting/cutting weight requires some serious discipline.

    As far as the other guys on this season are concerned, well, there are a few guys in there that have distinct advantages over everyone else, including Kimbo. Roy Nelson is the first one that comes to mind, as he's got like 20+ pro fights, some of which were against top guys, and has fought on most of the big shows. This will be a real uphill battle for Kimbo, as people are gonna expose him on the ground, and with cardio. I do respect him for taking the plunge though. It takes a lot of balls to put your rep on the line like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepingTalon View Post
    No, this is not correct, nor is it a fair comparison. Kimbo has NO background in fighting, except for some backyard fights with untrained bums. Brock was a D1 NCAA champ, and has probably the best base for MMA in wrestling. Beyond that, Brock trains like a PRO, and has trained with top guys for the past 3yrs now. He didn't do anything with a year of MMA training. Hell, he didn't even fight until he had 8 months of training, and that fight was against a total CAN. His first fight with Frank Mir was after almost 2yrs of CONSTANT training with Greg Nelson.

    On the other hand, Kimbo hasn't put forth the same effort that Brock has, and this is evident in the fact that Bas no longer wanted to train him because of him being slack in the gym. Kimbo has to show some serious dedication to make it in MMA. He's small for a HW, and it would probably suit him best to drop down to LHW. If he can do that, he'll show some dedication to getting better, as dieting/cutting weight requires some serious discipline.

    As far as the other guys on this season are concerned, well, there are a few guys in there that have distinct advantages over everyone else, including Kimbo. Roy Nelson is the first one that comes to mind, as he's got like 20+ pro fights, some of which were against top guys, and has fought on most of the big shows. This will be a real uphill battle for Kimbo, as people are gonna expose him on the ground, and with cardio. I do respect him for taking the plunge though. It takes a lot of balls to put your rep on the line like that.

    Very well said

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    As we all no kimbo is not a mma fighter i think he will stun some ppl and catch thoes guy's that look down on him off gaurd i can assure u that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-ROCK View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by stay_up View Post
    As we all no kimbo is not a mma fighter i think he will stun some ppl and catch thoes guy's that look down on him off gaurd i can assure u that.
    i think kimbo is damn close, i know everyone has seen proably seen this video but he dont look that bad i think with the right training he would be more dangerous than he already is hes got skills in the video you see boxing,kick boxing,grappling and a little wrestling than that let to a submission and i call that mma . i wouldnt mess with that dude lol

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    ^ i think that he needs to get in better condition than what he is.If he gets amped up to go 3-5 rounds with out gassing out he could def be a handfull for alot of fighters i think. And i have to say no matter how much dana W talks shi* about kimbo dana is a $ man and he no that if kimbo does get into ufc he gonna bring in a little more $ at the end of the day and thats what matters.People love to see mma fights but they love to see KO fights more than some 1 getting Tapped out in the cage and that is what kimbo brings to the table.Finishing fights by KO. But i do agree alot with talon on here kimbo needs to drop to a lower weight class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stay_up View Post
    ^ i think that he needs to get in better condition than what he is.If he gets amped up to go 3-5 rounds with out gassing out he could def be a handfull for alot of fighters i think. And i have to say no matter how much dana W talks shi* about kimbo dana is a $ man and he no that if kimbo does get into ufc he gonna bring in a little more $ at the end of the day and thats what matters.People love to see mma fights but they love to see KO fights more than some 1 getting Tapped out in the cage and that is what kimbo brings to the table.Finishing fights by KO. But i do agree alot with talon on here kimbo needs to drop to a lower weight class.

    Kimbo has stand-up ability more than anything. If he gets put up against someone with really good ground game and take down ability then odds most likely won't be in his favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-ROCK View Post
    Kimbo has stand-up ability more than anything. If he gets put up against someone with really good ground game and take down ability then odds most likely won't be in his favor.
    Kimbo only has the ability to punch hard. Seth Petruzelli showed that Kimbo isn't even that great at stand-up. He just rushes in fists flying, having virtually no defense. Any decent striker that can keep their wits about them during his punching flurries will hit him on the button every time.

    Granted, he could have really upped his game since then, but he has a long way to go IMO.
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    man who cares if he can only stand up oh well?
    Anderson Silva doesnt go to the ground( even though he is a black belt in jiu jitsu) also Cro Cop doesnt go the ground and they are both top fighters.

    Kimbo has heart and has fight, a lot of these guys on these shows dont. they see it as a occupation not as im feeding my family.

    Also kimbo wont fight anytime soon in my opinion, im not sure if dana has any control over fight choice but if they hold out a couple weeks people will keep watching to see what happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by nreggie454 View Post
    Kimbo only has the ability to punch hard. Seth Petruzelli showed that Kimbo isn't even that great at stand-up. He just rushes in fists flying, having virtually no defense. Any decent striker that can keep their wits about them during his punching flurries will hit him on the button every time.

    Granted, he could have really upped his game since then, but he has a long way to go IMO.
    By stand-up I meant the ability to only hit hard. I know he doesn't have really any defence when he swings. When he swings he takes chances and hopes that atleast one of his swings hits the button. the only stand-up ability I have seen that he has is the ability to hit hard but you also have to be smart with your punches and bring a good defence if they happen to miss, but in the take down and wrestling department he has virtually nothing to work with.

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    All Heavyweights will be a fun season lol.

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    ^ tru that Also kimbo has a huge name out there over most the guy's he is going against and that alone puts more pressure on him to do good and put more time in training and going the distance.I have to say its all about how bad he wants to show that he can change from street fighting to the cage pro life style.
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    Kimbo have shown that he is hungry to learn. Abe was unprepare he thought the guy was a ok wrestler not a champion wrestler

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka24boost View Post
    Kimbo have shown that he is hungry to learn. Abe was unprepare he thought the guy was a ok wrestler not a champion wrestler
    Madsen was/is not a champion wrestler, Abe just has absolutely no take down defense.

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    this past wk was interesting. i thought they should've made them go back for a round 3, didn't agree w/the decision at the end of the 2 rounds.

    in either case i'm already slightly less excited about this season just bc of the shit that's goin on w/rampage now and how he's thinking about calling it quits. really want to see him knock out rashad.

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    Next week should be good with Kimbo v Roy. I kind of want to see Kimbo lose, but at the same time I want to see him win, its weird.

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    I thought last weeks fight was a disappointment. That was Rashads #1 pic!! I though he fought like shit. He should have destroyed that guy when he was gasses. Ive NEVER seen a fight in the cage where two guys basically stared at each other breathing hard.

    Rampages guy def had a good game plan going in and it worked perfect, well until he got tired. Taking the right leg kick and them throwing a straight right. That shit had dude stunned bad.

    I am SOOO glad Rashad put Roy against Kimbo this early. He was a former champ (Roy) so he has to have skills. On the show he hasnt shown to much heart but in the cage it should be different. That and we can end all this Kimbo talk once and for all. I was afraid Dana and the show producers were gonna make them wait until late in the show to put Kimbo in. I now they will lose a lot of viewers once he is gone. Thats all he is there for, TV numbers.

    Rampage is now 2-8 on the show, lol. (minus the semi-finals and finals)

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    Weak shit so far.
    I hope this 3rd episode is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shagwAg3n View Post
    this past wk was interesting. i thought they should've made them go back for a round 3, didn't agree w/the decision at the end of the 2 rounds.

    in either case i'm already slightly less excited about this season just bc of the shit that's goin on w/rampage now and how he's thinking about calling it quits. really want to see him knock out rashad.
    i agree.. although im sure round 3 would have been more nothingness..

    i hope kimbo gets destroyed. i hate him and rampage.
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    i just think people are intimidated by kimbo. get him on the ground though and he will more than likely lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbr900rrguy View Post
    i just think people are intimidated by kimbo. get him on the ground though and he will more than likely lose.
    Shoot look at Liddell. He was mostly standup and could defend against the best wrestlers (Couture) from going on the ground. Kimbo just needs to pick up his take down d fense.

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    Ill agree that people are intimidated by him. Hell, Im at the weight to fight heavyweight and would never step foot in the octagon/ ring/ backyard with that fucker. I mean shit, go back and look at some of the guys expressions when he walked in. They just about shit themselves. But then the real fighter basically said fuck him. Imagine what he would have done against Abe or even the Rashad fighter from last week if his cardio would last that long (which I dont think it would).

    Roy defeats Slice in 2nd round due to submission!!!!

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    So the vid leaked and and looks like kimbo knocks nelson out....but the vid stops. Never shows the end.

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