Ultimate Fighter 10 begins

[90_ACCORD]

kimbo fight = disappointment

[Greddypacked]

Roy's a joke, and like Dana White said that guy was hitting like your lil sister would when she's playing w/ you while he was hitting Kimbo in the head. Dana is pretty much saying he's a joke and probably will get beat later on. OH my gosh what he said at the end, im just glad I won and Rashad probably thinks im one of the best he gots... I cant wait to get home and eat . Dude needs to diet and get working out shiznat.

[ueyedgr8tness]

Roy's a joke, and like Dana White said that guy was hitting like your lil sister would when she's playing w/ you while he was hitting Kimbo in the head. Dana is pretty much saying he's a joke and probably will get beat later on. OH my gosh what he said at the end, im just glad I won and Rashad probably thinks im one of the best he gots... I cant wait to get home and eat . Dude needs to diet and get working out shiznat.

LOL!! i no right Roy is so full of hiself and he is not even that good

[leobond001]

man i was hurt when he lost

[BobbyFresco]

man i was hurt when he lost

For some reason, the fight seemed staged.
Maybe I'm wrong but it did not seem like they were throwing real punches at each other...

[MidLifeCrisis]

this is the worst thread ever.

ill admit, the fight was no fantastic, gotta watch the replay type fight, but it was an excellent exhibition to just how much kimbo slice does not belong in the UFC.. he is not a mixed martial artist, hes a boxer and thats it, nothing more.. a fighter of kimbos size could have got out from under roy nelson, just not one with kimbo slices lack of strategy on the ground.. the reason he stayed there was because he had no idea where to go once he was pinned.

[Bus Driver J]

...he is not a mixed martial artist, hes a boxer and thats it, nothing more..

I think those were his exact words so there is no real reason to repeat them. He knows that and so does the whole world. Not an opinion, a fact.

[Vteckidd]

like i said, Kimbo isnt mobile enough. Why doesnt he get into Heavyweight boxing? I mean that seems like his talent.

[dc2teg2006]

Rampage makes me laugh out loud!! dude is funny ass shit.

I felt kinda sorry for Kimbo, he is a likable guy, but man I don't know if he can ever improved on his ground game fast enough to be consider in the UFC. Dude got heart tho

[hadouken]

Ive always thought of them as the enemy
but the actually enemy is the inner me
the inner me man the inner me!

silly kimbo

lol

[THEONE]

i bet if he would shave that beard it would release all of his super powers!! j/k but for real i would like to see kimbo enter the ring next time,with some anger i would like him to come out like a hurricane and just break the next guy down.i know he could do it,he is not slow he could totally keep a fight on his feet ,if he would just get pissed a little..if he wants to win this thing hes gonna have to let go and get angry sometimes.

[j0nbunklah0m]

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Kimb...006741&tid=100

roy vs kimbo

[TicketRedBB6]

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Kimb...006741&tid=100

roy vs kimbo

Isnt working for me

[neon_ert3]

links not workin for me either

i cant wait til next week. i think kimbo might fight again and hopfully he'll be more explosive this time.

[ekcivic1991]

Man Kimbo is getting better each day to everyone who says he doesnt need to be in the UFC. He will keep getting better and if Dana White believes in him thats all that matter he will get fights if Dana is smart

[j0nbunklah0m]

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Kimb...006741&tid=100


my bad. fixed

[ultm8mind]

Team Rampage 0-3, damn, even got Kimbo (his no ground game having ass)

[ka24boost]

Kimo is not a ground fighter and doesnt need to improve his ground game. He need to add wrestling to his game so hecan scamble and avoid take downs. His stand up is 5 out of 10 and he push the entire fight. Plus from looking at the fight he is better then brock lesnar

[SleepingTalon]

Plus from looking at the fight he is better then brock lesnar

Then you're half fucking blind.

[ka24boost]

Major points
1) Lesnar have zero stand up which was proven in his last fight
2) The only thing he is good at his is wrestling and that is because of his size
3) He have all that strength and he have not finish one fighter ( and no mir don’t count)
4) he have zero ground game he just use his weight and hold control the entire fight ( like Hugh use to do)
5) he could not stand up again Mir who is a much smaller fighter
6) If he beat shane carwin then I will take back all of this shit.

Brock only got the title shot because of his name

[SleepingTalon]

Major points
1) Lesnar have zero stand up which was proven in his last fight
2) The only thing he is good at his is wrestling and that is because of his size
3) He have all that strength and he have not finish one fighter ( and no mir don’t count)
4) he have zero ground game he just use his weight and hold control the entire fight ( like Hugh use to do)
5) he could not stand up again Mir who is a much smaller fighter
6) If he beat shane carwin then I will take back all of this shit.

Brock only got the title shot because of his name

YOU = FAIL

1- Mir threw 5 strikes in the last fight, 4 of them missed, so that point is total shit.
2- He's only good at wrestling because of his size? Spoken like a true idiot whose never trained a day in his life, and obviously you have ZERO experience in wrestling. You don't win a NCAA D1 title without skills. Wrestling has little to do with size, and is all hips, speed, and technique.
3- Lesnar has finished THREE of his FOUR wins, so get your facts straight. Beyond that, some would argue that he was pretty close to finishing Mir in their first fight, when he got that questionable stand up by Mazagatti.
4- He has zero ground game? Do you even know what "ground game" means? Wrestling is a huge part of a ground game, and beyond that, he totally controlled one of the best HW BJJ black belts in MMA. He kept Mir's hips flat using his WRESTLING to negate Mir's BJJ. Since you don't have a clue what you're looking at, you obviously missed that part.
5- He followed his gameplan, which was to put Mir on the ground and beat him up. He did that very easily too. You make it seem like Mir was winning this fight at any point. The ONE flurry Mir had was when he threw those 5 strikes, 4 of them missed (the 1 knee landed), and you use this as evidence. You seem so critical of Lesnar using his wrestling, when how many of the top MMA fighters use their wrestling to win fights? GSP, Randy, Hendo, Fitch, Koscheck, and the list goes on & on. It's called STRATEGY. If you don't like it, learn to defend against it.
6- So Shane Carwin makes Brock legitimate? Carwin has less cage time than Brock does! Yes he has more fights, but he's also spent less total time actually fighting. Also, look at the caliber of opponents. Carwin has fought CANS, while Brock has fought TOP 10 HW's. Carwin has never even been to the 2nd round, and because he's fighting nobodies (besides Gonzaga), he is more untested than Brock is. The simple fact is that Carwin isn't even Brock's toughest opponent. The only reason it's even mildly intriguing is because Carwin has some size and strength of his own. Beyond that, he's a poor mans Brock Lesnar, and inferior pretty much everywhere.

Oh, and lastly, Brock got his title shot because that's who RANDY asked to fight. When Randy came back from his contract dispute, they asked him who he wanted to fight, and he said "Brock". Beyond that, who was a more suitable opponent? Please elaborate, because I have yet to see one person who would have been a better replacement. Herring lost to Lesnar, Werdum got KO'd by Dos Santos, and there was really no one left. That takes like 6-7 of the HW's out of the mix. All the HW's that are credible fighters now, were not on the radar during that time.

[MidLifeCrisis]

YOU = FAIL

1- Mir threw 5 strikes in the last fight, 4 of them missed, so that point is total shit.
2- He's only good at wrestling because of his size? Spoken like a true idiot whose never trained a day in his life, and obviously you have ZERO experience in wrestling. You don't win a NCAA D1 title without skills. Wrestling has little to do with size, and is all hips, speed, and technique.
3- Lesnar has finished THREE of his FOUR wins, so get your facts straight. Beyond that, some would argue that he was pretty close to finishing Mir in their first fight, when he got that questionable stand up by Mazagatti.
4- He has zero ground game? Do you even know what "ground game" means? Wrestling is a huge part of a ground game, and beyond that, he totally controlled one of the best HW BJJ black belts in MMA. He kept Mir's hips flat using his WRESTLING to negate Mir's BJJ. Since you don't have a clue what you're looking at, you obviously missed that part.
5- He followed his gameplan, which was to put Mir on the ground and beat him up. He did that very easily too. You make it seem like Mir was winning this fight at any point. The ONE flurry Mir had was when he threw those 5 strikes, 4 of them missed (the 1 knee landed), and you use this as evidence. You seem so critical of Lesnar using his wrestling, when how many of the top MMA fighters use their wrestling to win fights? GSP, Randy, Hendo, Fitch, Koscheck, and the list goes on & on. It's called STRATEGY. If you don't like it, learn to defend against it.
6- So Shane Carwin makes Brock legitimate? Carwin has less cage time than Brock does! Yes he has more fights, but he's also spent less total time actually fighting. Also, look at the caliber of opponents. Carwin has fought CANS, while Brock has fought TOP 10 HW's. Carwin has never even been to the 2nd round, and because he's fighting nobodies (besides Gonzaga), he is more untested than Brock is. The simple fact is that Carwin isn't even Brock's toughest opponent. The only reason it's even mildly intriguing is because Carwin has some size and strength of his own. Beyond that, he's a poor mans Brock Lesnar, and inferior pretty much everywhere.

Oh, and lastly, Brock got his title shot because that's who RANDY asked to fight. When Randy came back from his contract dispute, they asked him who he wanted to fight, and he said "Brock". Beyond that, who was a more suitable opponent? Please elaborate, because I have yet to see one person who would have been a better replacement. Herring lost to Lesnar, Werdum got KO'd by Dos Santos, and there was really no one left. That takes like 6-7 of the HW's out of the mix. All the HW's that are credible fighters now, were not on the radar during that time.

this redeemed this thread. love him or hate him lesnar is one bad fucking ass dude, and i dont really think hes gonna be dethroned anytime soon. and shit im not even a lesnar fan.

[THEONE]

YOU = FAIL

1- Mir threw 5 strikes in the last fight, 4 of them missed, so that point is total shit.
2- He's only good at wrestling because of his size? Spoken like a true idiot whose never trained a day in his life, and obviously you have ZERO experience in wrestling. You don't win a NCAA D1 title without skills. Wrestling has little to do with size, and is all hips, speed, and technique.
3- Lesnar has finished THREE of his FOUR wins, so get your facts straight. Beyond that, some would argue that he was pretty close to finishing Mir in their first fight, when he got that questionable stand up by Mazagatti.
4- He has zero ground game? Do you even know what "ground game" means? Wrestling is a huge part of a ground game, and beyond that, he totally controlled one of the best HW BJJ black belts in MMA. He kept Mir's hips flat using his WRESTLING to negate Mir's BJJ. Since you don't have a clue what you're looking at, you obviously missed that part.
5- He followed his gameplan, which was to put Mir on the ground and beat him up. He did that very easily too. You make it seem like Mir was winning this fight at any point. The ONE flurry Mir had was when he threw those 5 strikes, 4 of them missed (the 1 knee landed), and you use this as evidence. You seem so critical of Lesnar using his wrestling, when how many of the top MMA fighters use their wrestling to win fights? GSP, Randy, Hendo, Fitch, Koscheck, and the list goes on & on. It's called STRATEGY. If you don't like it, learn to defend against it.
6- So Shane Carwin makes Brock legitimate? Carwin has less cage time than Brock does! Yes he has more fights, but he's also spent less total time actually fighting. Also, look at the caliber of opponents. Carwin has fought CANS, while Brock has fought TOP 10 HW's. Carwin has never even been to the 2nd round, and because he's fighting nobodies (besides Gonzaga), he is more untested than Brock is. The simple fact is that Carwin isn't even Brock's toughest opponent. The only reason it's even mildly intriguing is because Carwin has some size and strength of his own. Beyond that, he's a poor mans Brock Lesnar, and inferior pretty much everywhere.

Oh, and lastly, Brock got his title shot because that's who RANDY asked to fight. When Randy came back from his contract dispute, they asked him who he wanted to fight, and he said "Brock". Beyond that, who was a more suitable opponent? Please elaborate, because I have yet to see one person who would have been a better replacement. Herring lost to Lesnar, Werdum got KO'd by Dos Santos, and there was really no one left. That takes like 6-7 of the HW's out of the mix. All the HW's that are credible fighters now, were not on the radar during that time.

i agree, and i would like to add that lesner is a great fighter and an amazing wrestler and he has great cardio,look at him he is huge show me another guy his size that can hang like that,he took out mir for gods sake mir is a great fighter too .if anything his size is a disadvantage in mma most heavyweights are spent quickly and he is bigger than most,he has done the time and has been properly trained to be a true contender in mma and ufc and well i dont need to tell you that,cause hes the champ.

yeah his attitude is kinda cocky and crappy but hes a bad man what do you expect? win or loose lesner is not going anywhere and dont say just becuase he is big is the only reason he wins,thats crap,hes tha champ because hes a great wrestler and fighter and i dont see anyone taking that title from him anytime soon.

and back to ultimate fighter tv series,tonights show was good decent fight and rampage makes me laugh and rashaad had a good point rampage is a shitty coach.he needs to be more interactive with his fighters......

[Verik]

what was the result of the fight?

only vids i can find online cut out at like.... 3 min in the first when brandon reverses demigo, throws his legs to the right and comes down on him.

[SleepingTalon]

what was the result of the fight?

only vids i can find online cut out at like.... 3 min in the first when brandon reverses demigo, throws his legs to the right and comes down on him.

Brandon by anaconda choke which was practically gift wrapped and handed to him.

[ka24boost]

First of all i dont care about wrestling. How many mma fight have ncaa d1 champion ship? I will mention to the guy I train with that I have zero ground game at Paul creighton and knuckle up . as for lensaer here is his so call finish record Min soo kim lost 4 straight fight by ko before he fought lesnar. heath herring havnt won a straight fight since 05 and was about to get drop by the ufc. Conture havnt been the same in while so i stick with my early comment. Carwin also beat neil wain and gabirel gonzaga by ko. Also conture fought brock for a big pay day. In a end not brock never finish a fight he just lay on someone and deliver shot to the head. With the rule in the ufc if a fighter is unable to defending himself the fight must be stop. When some one said they finish a fight that mean someone got knock the fuck out.

YOU = FAIL

1- Mir threw 5 strikes in the last fight, 4 of them missed, so that point is total shit.
2- He's only good at wrestling because of his size? Spoken like a true idiot whose never trained a day in his life, and obviously you have ZERO experience in wrestling. You don't win a NCAA D1 title without skills. Wrestling has little to do with size, and is all hips, speed, and technique.
3- Lesnar has finished THREE of his FOUR wins, so get your facts straight. Beyond that, some would argue that he was pretty close to finishing Mir in their first fight, when he got that questionable stand up by Mazagatti.
4- He has zero ground game? Do you even know what "ground game" means? Wrestling is a huge part of a ground game, and beyond that, he totally controlled one of the best HW BJJ black belts in MMA. He kept Mir's hips flat using his WRESTLING to negate Mir's BJJ. Since you don't have a clue what you're looking at, you obviously missed that part.
5- He followed his gameplan, which was to put Mir on the ground and beat him up. He did that very easily too. You make it seem like Mir was winning this fight at any point. The ONE flurry Mir had was when he threw those 5 strikes, 4 of them missed (the 1 knee landed), and you use this as evidence. You seem so critical of Lesnar using his wrestling, when how many of the top MMA fighters use their wrestling to win fights? GSP, Randy, Hendo, Fitch, Koscheck, and the list goes on & on. It's called STRATEGY. If you don't like it, learn to defend against it.
6- So Shane Carwin makes Brock legitimate? Carwin has less cage time than Brock does! Yes he has more fights, but he's also spent less total time actually fighting. Also, look at the caliber of opponents. Carwin has fought CANS, while Brock has fought TOP 10 HW's. Carwin has never even been to the 2nd round, and because he's fighting nobodies (besides Gonzaga), he is more untested than Brock is. The simple fact is that Carwin isn't even Brock's toughest opponent. The only reason it's even mildly intriguing is because Carwin has some size and strength of his own. Beyond that, he's a poor mans Brock Lesnar, and inferior pretty much everywhere.

Oh, and lastly, Brock got his title shot because that's who RANDY asked to fight. When Randy came back from his contract dispute, they asked him who he wanted to fight, and he said "Brock". Beyond that, who was a more suitable opponent? Please elaborate, because I have yet to see one person who would have been a better replacement. Herring lost to Lesnar, Werdum got KO'd by Dos Santos, and there was really no one left. That takes like 6-7 of the HW's out of the mix. All the HW's that are credible fighters now, were not on the radar during that time.

[SleepingTalon]

First of all i dont care about wrestling. How many mma fight have ncaa d1 champion ship? I will mention to the guy I train with that I have zero ground game at Paul creighton and knuckle up . as for lensaer here is his so call finish record Min soo kim lost 4 straight fight by ko before he fought lesnar. heath herring havnt won a straight fight since 05 and was about to get drop by the ufc. Conture havnt been the same in while so i stick with my early comment. Carwin also beat neil wain and gabirel gonzaga by ko. Also conture fought brock for a big pay day. In a end not brock never finish a fight he just lay on someone and deliver shot to the head. With the rule in the ufc if a fighter is unable to defending himself the fight must be stop. When some one said they finish a fight that mean someone got knock the fuck out.

Obviously you don't care about wrestling, since you know NOTHING about it, or any training for that matter. Also, if you think that name dropping Paul or Knuckle Up is gonna impress me, you might wanna try again. I'm friends with Paul, as I've trained with him many times, and have trained at Knuckle Up before with many of those guys, including John Trent, Steve Headden, etc. Was that supposed to scare me?

At any rate, how many MMA fighters have D1 championships? A bunch of them, and they're all pretty good fighters. Josh Koscheck is the first one that comes to mind.though. If you're even trying to dispute that wrestlers comprise some of the best MMA fighters, you're delusional. I can name a half dozen right now who are at the TOP of their weight class, or A-level fighters in their own right

As for Brock's record, you can try to discredit it all you want, but it's FAR superior to Carwin's, and anyone else in MMA for their first 5 fights. Please try to name ANYONE whose fought competition that good at the beginning of their career, someone, ANYONE. Did you mention Neil Wain like it's some great accomplishment? Carwin's record is padded with CANS, and that's a FACT.

Here's the list of guys he's fought...
Min Soo Kim - Are you seriously trying to discredit this fight. It was Brock's FIRST MMA fight. Go look up your favorite fighter and see who they fought for their first PRO fight. Hell, he had like 7 pro fights to Brock's ZERO, so he was still as tough of an opponent as Brock could get given his experience level (and what the athletic commission will let you get away with).

Frank Mir - TOP 10 HW in the world, so how you can discredit this, I have no idea. This is absolutely a tough fight.


Heath Herring - TOP 15 HW in the world, and had how many pro fights compared to Brock? Herring had 42 Pro fights, and has fought guys like Fedor, Cro Cop, Nog, and Kongo, just to name a few. Where do you come up with this shit that he was about to get dropped by the UFC? More talking out of your ass about shit you have no clue about? For the record, he was coming off a WIN before he fought Brock, so get your facts straight. Beyond that, he's not even close to being dropped by the UFC, as he was offered a fight last month but pulled out due to injury. Yet he was gonna be cut, right? Get a clue.

Randy Couture - You say he's not the same, and that may be true...NOW, but it wasn't when Brock beat him. When Brock beat him, he was coming off two big wins over Gonzaga and Sylvia, so you can attempt to discredit it all you want, but you're failing as usual.

Oh, so only KO's count now? Do you have a clue of what "finishing a fight" means? Obviously not. Why do you even bother watching MMA then? So I guess guys like GSP, Maia, BJ Penn, Jon Fitch, and many others don't know how to finish fights either, huh? Do yourself a favor and quit now, because owning you is just too easy.

[THEONE]

damn man, you^^^ know a ton about mma and the ufc.... where do you train im guessing you do. and yeah im a lesner fan in heavyweight division.hes really talented and has fought with some of the greatest that the ufc has put in front of him,as his skills grow and he learns more i am convinced he will be one of the legends of mma.

it would be nice if he lost the cocky atitude but thats ok,hes 31 lol im 31 and i look like a minchkin compared to him hahaha lesner is a mma fighter no doubt about it......

[02SloWrx]

Im watching spike now, waiting for new episode. Looks like kimbo is coming back

[Greddypacked]

Im watching spike now, waiting for new episode. Looks like kimbo is coming back

Ya he should, he brings alot of ratings in for the show so Dana will probably want him back in also lol

[ekcivic1991]

man how about fuck brock lesnar in general
they need to go on a world wide search to find someone to beat his ass so i can rejoice.

[Bus Driver J]

Yeah this weeks fight wasnt all too impressive. I thought what Rampage did before and after the fight was fucked up. He and his assistant coaches are dickheads. I dont care if the guy gave up immediately before a punch was thrown, you dont do that shit. It shows how great of a team they have going on, fail. It did show how great of a guy Rashaad really is by doing it himself.

4-0 baby. Fuck Rampage.

[ka24boost]

We can do this all day. Just for fact heath loss all of of those fights except for one that was a spilt decision win. Plus all those other fighters you name correct me if I right have knock out and sumission right? I also will give credit to Conture for his win again gonzaga. Plus tim sylvia was on a 5 or 6 fight win streak and Conture punish him during the fight. But what conture was in the past is different then who he is now. The same with min soo kim who have a pro record of 3 win 6 losses in mma with 5 being knock out.It just IMO lensar dont deserve to be in the top 10. I also think kimbo show more over all ability then lensar he just need a camp to sharping his skill. I use to think kimbo was a wanna be fighter and he didnt deserve to be in a cage. But after watching the UFC ulitmate fighting he is trying to improve his skills

[SleepingTalon]

We can do this all day. Just for fact heath loss all of of those fights except for one that was a spilt decision win. Plus all those other fighters you name correct me if I right have knock out and sumission right? I also will give credit to Conture for his win again gonzaga. Plus tim sylvia was on a 5 or 6 fight win streak and Conture punish him during the fight. But what conture was in the past is different then who he is now. The same with min soo kim who have a pro record of 3 win 6 losses in mma with 5 being knock out.It just IMO lensar dont deserve to be in the top 10. I also think kimbo show more over all ability then lensar he just need a camp to sharping his skill. I use to think kimbo was a wanna be fighter and he didnt deserve to be in a cage. But after watching the UFC ulitmate fighting he is trying to improve his skills

The simple fact that you think Kimbo shows more skills/ability than Brock shows me that you have no clue of what you're looking at. Go post that statement on the UG with all the pro fighters, and see how fast you get laughed at. Kimbo can barely sprawl, has bad footwork, terrible cardio, and zero ground game (no wrestling, no BJJ), yet he's better than Brock, who shut down Mir's entire ground game (and Mir is an accomplished BJJ black belt). Beyond that, Kimbo has been training for 2yrs and still has no foundation, and no basics. Can he get better? Yes. Is he better than Brock? No way, not by a long shot.

Why do you keep bringing up Min Soo Kim? Min Soo Kim was Brock's VERY FIRST fight. Who would you like him to fight for his first fight? Fedor? Get a clue man.

Lesnar 100% deserves to be in the top 10, as he's BEATEN top 10 fighters. You do realize that that's how you move up rankings, right? You BEAT the guys ranked above you!

Here's another list of TOP MMA fighters first pro fights...

Fedor - 1st opponent, Martin Lazarov - MMA record 0-2
Dan Henderson - 1st opponent, Crezio De Souza - MMA record 1-2
BJ Penn - 1st opponent, Joey Gilbert - MMA record 2-3
Lyoto Machida - 1st opponent, Kengo Watanabe - MMA record 8-13

How about your boy Shane Carwin? His first fight, his opponent, Carlton Jones, was 1-4!
Do you see the trend here? It's their FIRST FIGHTS & you don't get fed top guys just like that.

GSP has never knocked anyone out, so I guess he doesn't count as a real fighter too, huh? I guess in your eyes, Kimbo shows more ability than GSP, since you have to KO people to show that you have REAL skills, right? TKO's, and submissions don't count in your world. You should do yourself a favor and go watch boxing, because that's more up to your speed.

[ka24boost]

Gsp did knock out matt hughes but it was counted as a tko because it happen at the end of the round. I would have like to see him fight al turk or pat barry You cant compare those people you name to brock they put in work. fedor 31-1 bj 14-5 csp 19-2 compare to brock 4-1 or kimbo 3-1. How the hell you going to have 5 fights and be label the best heavy weight in the world bull shit. I see kimbo improving a lot in the future cause of his new camp and trainer. For the record kimbo havnt done shit in the past he havnt fought any game fighter. Brock lesnar is a good wrestler but he have no stand up IMO. He got ground control because his size like rampage said it like having the moon on you how you going to move the moon. One day I may eat my words and said brock deserve to be the best in world but right now he dont. by the way what weight class are you in. We are hosting a bully brawl next year if you interested.

[SleepingTalon]

Gsp did knock out matt hughes but it was counted as a tko because it happen at the end of the round. I would have like to see him fight al turk or pat barry You cant compare those people you name to brock they put in work. fedor 31-1 bj 14-5 csp 19-2 compare to brock 4-1 or kimbo 3-1. How the hell you going to have 5 fights and be label the best heavy weight in the world bull shit. I see kimbo improving a lot in the future cause of his new camp and trainer. For the record kimbo havnt done shit in the past he havnt fought any game fighter. Brock lesnar is a good wrestler but he have no stand up IMO. He got ground control because his size like rampage said it like having the moon on you how you going to move the moon. One day I may eat my words and said brock deserve to be the best in world but right now he dont. by the way what weight class are you in. We are hosting a bully brawl next year if you interested.

GSP never KO'd Matt Hughes. He TKO'd him with strikes on the ground and sub'd him the next time. The comparison I made to Fedor, BJ, etc, is because you seem to think that fighting Min Soo Kim was so terrible, yet ALL of the above named fighters fought easy fights in their debuts. The simple fact is that Brock has had the toughest first 5 fights of anyone, and hasn't been handed anything easy. Kimbo had 2yrs to train with Bas, and Xtreme Couture, and pretty much learned nothing, so it's not like him training at ATT is gonna make some huge difference. Also, for the record, Kimbo has trained with ATT in the past, and quit because guys were tapping him and kicking his ass.

Again you keep bringing up Brock's size. If being big was all that mattered, then Jan Nortje and Bob Sapp would be world champions. Brock has good top control and GnP because of his WRESTLING, not because of his size. There are plenty of strikers who get TKO'd over and over because they have no wrestling or BJJ, so it works both ways. Striking isn't everything man. It's just ONE piece of the puzzle, so you should really stop referring to it as the end all be all of skills.

Oh, and I walk around at 150-155, so I cut weight from there depending on what I'm doing.

[Greddypacked]

I see kimbo improving a lot in the future cause of his new camp and trainer. For the record kimbo havnt done shit in the past he havnt fought any game fighter. Brock lesnar is a good wrestler but he have no stand up IMO. He got ground control because his size like rampage....

I see Kimbo improving also, but he is not in the class to Brock. I read about how you say Wrestling has no effect in MMA that much. Wow Wrestling itself can win matches but yes it takes an overall MMA fighter to win now adays. Wrestling=huge cardio and usually can outlast most opponents in energy, +A in take downs, and helps w/ BJJ and knowing wrestling and ground control + submitting all together is oh sh!t. Oh and about Brock doesnt have any standup please show me... cuz every fight I have seen him in he crushes people in standup to a mere pulp.

[Verik]

Oh and about Brock doesnt have any standup please show me... cuz every fight I have seen him in he crushes people in standup to a mere pulp.

+1, wasn't mir's whole strat based around avoiding standup?

[ka24boost]

also just for the record kyle maynard is a world class wrestler.

[SleepingTalon]

also just for the record kyle maynard is a world class wrestler.

Is that a fucking joke? I hope so.