Yo sir are a hater, He was 38-21 as a starter which is above 500. He had three different head coaches, which in turn brings new OC in. The receivers dropped so many passes they all should have been cut. He won the Falcons more games with his legs that, they wouldn't have won if he had relied on those sorry as receivers.Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
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Those same sorry receivers that all the sudden became 1000yd receivers after immediately Vick was gone?
So he was 38-21, with only 1 playoff season and 3 seasons with a winning record.
2001 7-9 record
2002 9-7
2003 5-11
2004 11-5 lost in NFC Champ
2005 8-8
2006 7-9
Outside of 1 season that the Falcons did very well, Vick is a below .500 QB.
As I have said several times. Vick is an outstanding athlete, but he is a well below average QB. If I need a score in the 2 minute drill, I can think of several back-up QB's I would put in the game before Vick.
You can say that until Honda Civics are considered bad ass tuner cars and it will always fall on deaf ears, man. I agree completely, but even though you put in a positive comment on Vick, the folks that help Vick live and breathe will only see the negative part of it. The only way they'll be happy with you is if you concede that Vick is the next Fran Tarkenton or Brett Favre or any other great quarterback the game has ever seen. Later, QD.
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everybody knows those same receivers were still catching for vick, but they were less developed which meant more incompletions. im not saying you can put all the blame on them, but hell even last season ryan had 7 dropped passes in one game. and didnt vick break his leg when the falcons went 5-5? man just quit hatin on vick, he good, and the nfl knows it. lol gtfo trying to say herrington is better than vick, boy please.
I think the NFL "thinks" he's good because he's good at bringing in money with his flair. Not because of his QB "skills." They like him for the entertainment value. And now especially that he's trying to make a comeback folks are going to be watching him for sure. Even the folks that talk trash about him will watch him; if for nothing else but to see him (possibly) fail. But the networks/stadiums won't care if you like him or not, you pay to see him is all that matters to them.
My opinion, ya know. You see where I'm at, VIP? Later, QD.
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man my issue is this, QD you know damn well herrington is not a better QB than vick! if he was so much better at passing or getting a win, then how come he didnt win vicks starting position?
I never said anything about Herrington.
And the Falcons have been picked by a few sportscasters to win their division. I hope they're right. Later, QD.
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Joey Harrington is his name. Not Herrington. I was confused about who you guys were talking about lol.
And I think QD is right in some way about it being a kind of media stunt for them to bring in some fans and some haters. I also think that they should let him start 2 or 3 games this season, not just the preseason, to see how he responds to the fans and the pace of the game.
So Vick has these receivers and they do nothing but drop passes, then just as soon as he leaves they are all the sudden far more developed than when Vick was there. As I said, Vick apologists are simply re-writing history to match what they want to see.
Yes, Ryan had a few games with several dropped passes, yet still managed 61% completions. 8 points higher than Vick did for his career.
Yes Vick was out with a broken leg in the 5-11 season. I forgot to remove that season. Funny that I should do that considering I was at the game he broke his leg.
Why should I quit hating on him? I actually have facts and stats to show why I think of him as a bad QB. You are simply slobbering on his nuts.
Why should I not say Harrington is a better passer? All of his stats say he is.
I will repeat again. Vick has a strong arm, and thats the extent of his NFL QB talents. Everything else is simply athletic ability and he is approaching 30, which is getting old for an NFL player.
you keep trying to throw all these stats and facts, you say that the same receiving core vick had all of a sudden had 1,000 yard seasons as soon as he left. well jenkins has not even come close, finneran has not even had a 1000 yard season, but he came close when vick was playing. alge crumpler came close as well when vick was the QB. crumpler had 877 in 05, and 780 in 06. when vick went down, crumpler only recorded 477 in 07! roddy white was pretty much the only receiver that started doing pretty well. so dude, just quit playa hating. vick is back, rather you like it or not, and most likely our falcons will not win more than the eagles this year. lol and another thing, herringtons stats say he is a better QB right? obviously stats dont mean as much as you wish they did because if so, herrington would not be riding the bench, but he would be starting for the atlanta falcons.
The only developed reciever is Rody White. The rest still bite, falcons will be lucky to make the playoffs this year. Don't ever throw falcons stats up, because they make the playoffs one year, and then don't for the next three.
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Vick was never able to do it either, so that makes him just as bad as any other falcons QB. I will go a step further and say White is the only returning receiver that is really NFL quality. I really wish the Falcons would sign Marvin Harrison to a 2 ear contract. He would be an excellent mentor for White and take that #1 WR pressure off of him.
BTW, I do think the Falcons goto the playoffs this year. They have a very ahrd schedule, especially compared to last year, but if they can stay healthy they should win the South with around a 9-7 record. I think they go 4-4 through the first half of the season then finish 5-3.
Tony G will take the pressure off...
Michael Jenkin's and Marvin Harrison's stats were very similar last year, I don't see how that would make any sense. Especially when they just recently signed Ferguson and Booker.
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