VICK is an EAGLE!!

[BanginJimmy]

I love how you so called football ppl call him a sorry qb b/c he brought a new dimension to the game when it came to a qb.

I love how Vick apologists are trying to re-write history. Vick is an outstanding athlete, that is all. He is called a sorry QB because he is a sorry QB.

Was he the best, hell no but he was a special passer

If you want to call a retard special, then yes, you can call Vick a special passer. Other than that, his assets end at a strong arm.

as he can bring linebackers and or cornerbacks to spy him freeing up the middle for the te and making it easier for wr to get open.

And he still couldnt pass that 55% completion mark or manage 2 winning seasons in a row. I think that tells volumes about him. He was ALWAYS throwing into zone coverages or single coverage and all but 1 year of his career he threw for below the league average in percentage .

Some people can't see talent b/c he is not a conventional QB,

There are a lot of unconventional QB's in the league. You can call Tom Brady and Payton Manning unconventional as they play in a system that is VERY close to a college spread.

When people see Vick, they see an athlete playing QB, they dont see a QB that is also an athlete.

shit reminds like the movie semi-pro when the alley hoop was introduced. I think if vick didn't go to jail, he would be true threat as he would have learned the new offense well enough to hurt teams with his arm and by now the wr would be developed which they're now.

No he wouldnt. He would be exactly the same as he has been the last 4 seasons he played. Judging by how quickly those same receivers matured last year with Ryan throwing, I would say that they were being held back by the QB and not the other way around.

I hope the man is able to get back to his life, and all you ppl still whining about the dog abuse need to move on as he did his time.

As do I. I think the NFL should enact a rule that requires a lifetime ban for any player convicted of a felony while on an NFL roster, but since that rule is not in place, Vick should be allowed to play as long as there is a team that is willing to pay him.

I still think he shouldn't spent more than 30 days for the dog fighting, also the gov't felt the same way b/c they got him for the money and the illegal organization.

He didnt serve a day for dog fighting so I would say he got off pretty easy on that count. The feds wanted to make an example. Maybe the US Atty was a dog lover or maybe he was a Vick hater. Dont know, dont care. You do the crime you do the time.

[VIP Style]

I love how Vick apologists are trying to re-write history. Vick is an outstanding athlete, that is all. He is called a sorry QB because he is a sorry QB.




If you want to call a retard special, then yes, you can call Vick a special passer. Other than that, his assets end at a strong arm.




And he still couldnt pass that 55% completion mark or manage 2 winning seasons in a row. I think that tells volumes about him. He was ALWAYS throwing into zone coverages or single coverage and all but 1 year of his career he threw for below the league average in percentage .




There are a lot of unconventional QB's in the league. You can call Tom Brady and Payton Manning unconventional as they play in a system that is VERY close to a college spread.

When people see Vick, they see an athlete playing QB, they dont see a QB that is also an athlete.



No he wouldnt. He would be exactly the same as he has been the last 4 seasons he played. Judging by how quickly those same receivers matured last year with Ryan throwing, I would say that they were being held back by the QB and not the other way around.





As do I. I think the NFL should enact a rule that requires a lifetime ban for any player convicted of a felony while on an NFL roster, but since that rule is not in place, Vick should be allowed to play as long as there is a team that is willing to pay him.




He didnt serve a day for dog fighting so I would say he got off pretty easy on that count. The feds wanted to make an example. Maybe the US Atty was a dog lover or maybe he was a Vick hater. Dont know, dont care. You do the crime you do the time.

lol ok so just because one has enough common sense to realize vick is not a sorry qb, their all of a sudden a history rewriting apologists?dude just get over it, if the man is good, than it is what it is.

[BanginJimmy]

lol ok so just because one has enough common sense to realize vick is not a sorry qb, their all of a sudden a history rewriting apologists?dude just get over it, if the man is good, than it is what it is.

You keep saying he isnt a sorry QB, yet you have nothing to back it up. Dont cop out with receivers either.
Joey Harrington managed a 61% completion rate in 10 starts.
In 2 starts Leftwich managed 55%
In 7 Starts Redman manged 59%.
(Judging by the number of games these numbers include preseason and come off the NFL website)

All of these QB's had the same receivers as Vick did, yet all of them managed to complete more passes in a worse situation than Vick ever had. No, they didnt score as many TD's, but lets not mistake any of these QB's for actual NFL starters either.

I think you need to start looking for some common sense. Vick was exciting, nothing more. As a QB, he was far below the league average in every statistic.

[VIP Style]

You keep saying he isnt a sorry QB, yet you have nothing to back it up. Dont cop out with receivers either.
Joey Harrington managed a 61% completion rate in 10 starts.
In 2 starts Leftwich managed 55%
In 7 Starts Redman manged 59%.
(Judging by the number of games these numbers include preseason and come off the NFL website)

All of these QB's had the same receivers as Vick did, yet all of them managed to complete more passes in a worse situation than Vick ever had. No, they didnt score as many TD's, but lets not mistake any of these QB's for actual NFL starters either.

I think you need to start looking for some common sense. Vick was exciting, nothing more. As a QB, he was far below the league average in every statistic.

lol wow, vick was able to set his team up with more scoring opprotunity, but herrington, redman, and leftwhich are better although they didnt win vicks starting job, so your telling me that vick is sorry compared to those three although vick was the last qb to get atl within one game of the superbowl? man stats are nothing when you have nothing to show for it, coaches, teams, and everybody knows vick was good because he could make a few plays that could put your team over the tóp for a win, then again he could lose you a few as well.

[1000cckiller]

You keep saying he isnt a sorry QB, yet you have nothing to back it up. Dont cop out with receivers either.
Joey Harrington managed a 61% completion rate in 10 starts.
In 2 starts Leftwich managed 55%
In 7 Starts Redman manged 59%.
(Judging by the number of games these numbers include preseason and come off the NFL website)

All of these QB's had the same receivers as Vick did, yet all of them managed to complete more passes in a worse situation than Vick ever had. No, they didnt score as many TD's, but lets not mistake any of these QB's for actual NFL starters either.

I think you need to start looking for some common sense. Vick was exciting, nothing more. As a QB, he was far below the league average in every statistic.

Yo sir are a hater, He was 38-21 as a starter which is above 500. He had three different head coaches, which in turn brings new OC in. The receivers dropped so many passes they all should have been cut. He won the Falcons more games with his legs that, they wouldn't have won if he had relied on those sorry as receivers.

[BanginJimmy]

Yo sir are a hater, He was 38-21 as a starter which is above 500. He had three different head coaches, which in turn brings new OC in. The receivers dropped so many passes they all should have been cut. He won the Falcons more games with his legs that, they wouldn't have won if he had relied on those sorry as receivers.

Those same sorry receivers that all the sudden became 1000yd receivers after immediately Vick was gone?

So he was 38-21, with only 1 playoff season and 3 seasons with a winning record.

2001 7-9 record
2002 9-7
2003 5-11
2004 11-5 lost in NFC Champ
2005 8-8
2006 7-9


Outside of 1 season that the Falcons did very well, Vick is a below .500 QB.


As I have said several times. Vick is an outstanding athlete, but he is a well below average QB. If I need a score in the 2 minute drill, I can think of several back-up QB's I would put in the game before Vick.

[quickdodge®]

As I have said several times. Vick is an outstanding athlete, but he is a well below average QB.

You can say that until Honda Civics are considered bad ass tuner cars and it will always fall on deaf ears, man. I agree completely, but even though you put in a positive comment on Vick, the folks that help Vick live and breathe will only see the negative part of it. The only way they'll be happy with you is if you concede that Vick is the next Fran Tarkenton or Brett Favre or any other great quarterback the game has ever seen. Later, QD.

[VIP Style]

Those same sorry receivers that all the sudden became 1000yd receivers after immediately Vick was gone?

So he was 38-21, with only 1 playoff season and 3 seasons with a winning record.

2001 7-9 record
2002 9-7
2003 5-11
2004 11-5 lost in NFC Champ
2005 8-8
2006 7-9


Outside of 1 season that the Falcons did very well, Vick is a below .500 QB.


As I have said several times. Vick is an outstanding athlete, but he is a well below average QB. If I need a score in the 2 minute drill, I can think of several back-up QB's I would put in the game before Vick.

everybody knows those same receivers were still catching for vick, but they were less developed which meant more incompletions. im not saying you can put all the blame on them, but hell even last season ryan had 7 dropped passes in one game. and didnt vick break his leg when the falcons went 5-5? man just quit hatin on vick, he good, and the nfl knows it. lol gtfo trying to say herrington is better than vick, boy please.

[quickdodge®]

he good, and the nfl knows it.

I think the NFL "thinks" he's good because he's good at bringing in money with his flair. Not because of his QB "skills." They like him for the entertainment value. And now especially that he's trying to make a comeback folks are going to be watching him for sure. Even the folks that talk trash about him will watch him; if for nothing else but to see him (possibly) fail. But the networks/stadiums won't care if you like him or not, you pay to see him is all that matters to them.

My opinion, ya know. You see where I'm at, VIP? Later, QD.

[BanginJimmy]

everybody knows those same receivers were still catching for vick, but they were less developed which meant more incompletions. im not saying you can put all the blame on them, but hell even last season ryan had 7 dropped passes in one game. and didnt vick break his leg when the falcons went 5-5? man just quit hatin on vick, he good, and the nfl knows it. lol gtfo trying to say herrington is better than vick, boy please.

So Vick has these receivers and they do nothing but drop passes, then just as soon as he leaves they are all the sudden far more developed than when Vick was there. As I said, Vick apologists are simply re-writing history to match what they want to see.

Yes, Ryan had a few games with several dropped passes, yet still managed 61% completions. 8 points higher than Vick did for his career.

Yes Vick was out with a broken leg in the 5-11 season. I forgot to remove that season. Funny that I should do that considering I was at the game he broke his leg.

Why should I quit hating on him? I actually have facts and stats to show why I think of him as a bad QB. You are simply slobbering on his nuts.

Why should I not say Harrington is a better passer? All of his stats say he is.

I will repeat again. Vick has a strong arm, and thats the extent of his NFL QB talents. Everything else is simply athletic ability and he is approaching 30, which is getting old for an NFL player.