For the title too, sucks for Mir/Nog, haha. Good to see Randy back though, 1 step closer to fighting Fedor.
This is a terrible match up, style wise, for Randy. A bigger, stronger, younger, better wrestler, with a similar style to him. The big fight experience, and the fact that Brock has never gone 5 rounds, does work against him, but this is a big mountain to overcome, and there's no certainty that the fight will go all 5 rounds. Randy is also a VERY small HW. He's essentially a LHW that moved up because of the lack of depth in the UFC's HW division, while Brock is a legit HW, who cuts to make the 265lb weight limit. Come fight time, Brock is 280-285lbs. Randy is never over 225lbs. 60lbs of weight is a lot to give up! Brock's obvious weakness is against good BJJ guys, and Randy is just not very good at sub'ing people, never has been. It's hard to bet against Randy in big fights, but the style he's up against, coupled in with a 1 year layoff, might prove to be too much. The betting lines will be very interesting on this one.Originally Posted by ironchef
I have some friends that train with Randy at XC in Vegas that told me that this fight had been signed about a week ago, and that Randy has already been training for about a week, but I'm gonna have to call them and see what he's doing, and who he's bringing in for this camp. I'm interested to see how he prepares for a guy like Brock.
I think Randy will put this one out. His experience and game planning will outweigh Brock's advantages. Even in the Herring fight you could still see Brock as being very limited in his skill set. He had Heath on the ground and majority of the time laid on him (didn't do much GnP), didn't go for any submissions, etc. Brock should've finished the Heath fight, but that went to a decision, and we can easily say Randy is better than Heath.
I like this match up,and i am looking for randy to beat his a$$
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Wait doesn't Nog hold the title right now?
I know the people Brock trained with, as I've trained with a few of them, and from what they told me, Brock did exactly what Greg Nelson asked him to do. He played a very reserved fight as he didn't wanna get caught. If you watch Heath's fights, he gives up his back and the mount because he's been successful with sweeps from that position. Apparently, this portion of Heath's game was well scouted, and they didn't want Brock to make a mistake that would cost him the fight, so he did what Greg Nelson asked, and just rode out a decision to ensure victory. Also, Heath Herring has only been finished a few times in his entire MMA career. A career that spans over 40 fights with guys like Crop Cop, Fedor, Nog X 3, etc. I think it's pretty safe to say that Heath is one of the tougher guys to finish. Randy definitely hasn't fought tougher competition than Heath, and has never fought anyone with the combination of speed, size, and strength that Brock possesses. Style wise, the match up is terrible for Randy, just like Nog is a bad match up for Brock. Brock may very well be able to neutralize all of Randy's strengths...other than experience. However, we saw a guy with MORE experience than Randy, and more experience against top HW's, get beat by Brock, so I'm not sure sure experience will weigh into this as much as people, including myself, might think. Heath is also a bigger HW than Randy, and he struggled with Brock's size. 60+lbs is A LOT to overcome, especially when you haven't fought in a year, and have basically taken a year off from training to make movies, open gyms, etc. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Brock beats Couture.
"Interim" title, yes. He will fight Frank Mir, and the winner of that fight will fight the winner of Brock/Randy. Somewhere down the line, Werdum will also get a shot, but if they can sign Fedor in 2009, expect Werdum to take a back seat again, as Fedor is the big money fight people will pay to see against Randy, Brock, or Nog.
damn i can't wait
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Actually I bet Brock comes out with the win against The Natural. Randy has been off for a year promoting movies and gyms. Brock has been training the last year for his fights.
WHY Brock will win.
1. Brock has to cut down to 265 at weigh in but is about 280 at the time of the fight.
2. Randy is a light HW about 220-225 a the most.
3. Randy struggled against his fight against Heath Herring, due to Herring's strength and size. Lesnar toyed with Herring for most of the fight.
4. Both have the same style wrestling/GnP, Brock's sheer strength should be able to overcome Randy's technical ability.
5. Randy has NEVER faced an opponent with the size, speed, and strength of Lesnar.
WHY Randy will win.
1. Experience, Randy can easily exploit Lesnar's weaknesses, however Randy does not submit too many opponents.
2. Randy's a mat technician and is definitely the smarter of the two fighters.
3. Randy knows what it's like to be hit, and hit hard. He can respond to adversity. Brock hasn't been punched square in the face/jaw yet.
On a side note, who's going to watch Rashad Evans take on "the iceman" chuck liddel this Saturday at Philips?
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Randy has never fought Heath Herring, so that comparison isn't applicable. Oh, and I'm not sure I'd call Randy a "mat technician", as his base is Greco, which is a clinch style. He's no Roger Gracie on the ground, that's for sure. Other than that, it's pretty much what I said, and I agree.
Hmm. I thought he fought Herring before...Oh well. Glad we're in agreeance. Ahh he fought Rico Rodriguez, that's who i'm thinking of. A big dude with some JiuJitsu training.
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It should be a great fight but I think Brock will win unless it goes into later rounds. Randy has a lot more experience being in later rounds in a fight. Im surprised Brock is getting a chance to fight for the title so soon...after only two fights. I thought they'd atleast make him fight Sylvia first.
i have to say brock will take the fight if he hurts randy in the first round real bad, and and when second round comes he will take it... if not randy will win bc i dont think brock will have the stamina to last all 5 rounds.. but like yall said randy havent been fighting in 1 year.. so i would have to say brock would take it...
I don't see Brock gassing out. He just went 3 rounds with Herring and looked fine. He's been training all year, and trains with a camp known for the best cardio in the game. I mean, Sean Sherk trains with him, and we all know that he doesn't gas out. At any rate, the UFC HW division is very thin, and the only other person that was ready for a shot was Werdum. Other than him, there's no one else other than Brock. All the other guys that are worthy are involved in this new developement (Mir, Nog, Randy). Sylvia is no longer with the UFC, as he signed a contract with Affliction awhile back, and lost the fight to Fedor in like 30sec. This was really one of the only options they had, and one that made the most sense business wise. It's still a business, and they're in it to make money. Brock/Couture is gonna be the biggest money fight in MMA history.
randy get hit one good time he's gonna fall, brock get hit one good time he's gonna smile like nothing happen'd
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