1) If he doesn't improve with the new coach... this is Vick's last year with the Falcons...
2) We'll be keeping Shaub until then
Discuss...
1) If he doesn't improve with the new coach... this is Vick's last year with the Falcons...
2) We'll be keeping Shaub until then
Discuss...
I dont understand considering this is the 3rd offense Vick has to learn
edit: I hope Vick does go to another team, get a good offensive line w/ receivers that can catch and take them to the Superbowl to expose the bullshit he's had to deal with in Atlanta.
or i cant wait till he comes back to the dome and destroys the falcons!!!! since he knows everything about them!!!!Originally Posted by tony
got boost?
Trade Vick to Oakland for the 1st pick in the draft.
Draft Calvin Johnson.
Schaub throws to Calvin Johnson.
Falcons go to playoffs.
I heard the same things, & it's not surprising. For all the Vick haters, who cry about his quarterbacking, or lack thereof. Again, you weren't winning with Jeff George, not with Chris Miller, not with Brett Favre, not with Chandler, not with Bartkowski either.
So maybe instead of just ramming Vick, why don't you realize, maybe, just maybe IT'S THE FUCKING FALCONS PERIOD!!! LOL
I'm actually with Tony on this one. Part of me wants to see Vick do what he can do here, but more than likely, he'll be traded/released, then develop, then all these asshole haters, will be like " gosh why wasn't he like that here"?
My reply will be coaching descisions. Best example, of coaching, Jeff Garcia!! Was a 3-time Pro Bowl QB in SF, went to two bottom feeding franchises..Detroit, then Cleveland. Goes to better coaching, better supporting cast, has Eagles in playoffs.
Yet, whenever someone says " well maybe Vick hasn't gotten what he needs, people say " oh he can' throw". Yeah right, ya'll will hate it when he's gone....Vegeta
I've heard that if Petrino feels as if he has progressed as far as Vick can go. Then he can look somewhere else for QB (Schaub or other). But mark my words, no way in hell would that ever happen. The Falcons fans (majority) still love Vick, and he IS NOT the problem with this team. He has a few small problems, but the major problems on this team are things outside of his control. Recievers not catch, blockers not blocking, corners getting burned constantly, an overpaid middle line backer taking naps on the field apparently (complete waste of money.... fuckin Hartwell...) etc etc. Trust me, Vick won't be getting replaced til he cant run.
THERES A GOOD IDEAOriginally Posted by HalfBaked
FUCK B&D COMMUNICATIONS!
I mean Oakland is going to draft a QB 1st pick anyways...Originally Posted by b18hatch
Probably JaMarcus Russell. So just trade that pick for a veteran QB and call it a day.
Vick on the raiders would be sick. He could pass to Randy Moss.
Shit... Vick is worth a helluva lot more than just a 1st round draft... especially to a desperate team like the Raiders. Anyways... nahh, it'd never happen and it shouldn't ever happen. Vick is what this team needs, they just need to shore up some of the other holes and we will have a super bowl team easy.Originally Posted by HalfBaked
On that note... fuckin just trade Schaub and a 2nd rd pick to Oakland, and get Moss... That'll fix problems for both teams, we'll have a sure handed reciever, and they'll have a decent QB to throw to there Mossless aka crappy recieving corp.Originally Posted by HalfBaked
BOTTOM LINE IS THIS...I DONT HATE VICK BUT IM DEFINATELY NOT A FAN. PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BLAME HIM WIN OR LOSE...LOOK AT THE YANKESS AND BASEBALL...THEY CAN HAVE A PITCHER GO 12-4 WITH A 1.89 ERA AND STILL BITCH ABOUT HIS 4 LOSSES....VICK COULD GO TO ANOTHER TEAM, USE HIS SKILLS AND PEOPLE IN ATL WILL BITCH OR IF HE LEAVES AND DOESNT DO TOO GOOD, PEOPLE WILL SAY "TOLD YOU SO"
EITHER WAY, RIGHT NOW ITS NO WIN FOR VICK IN ATL
FUCK B&D COMMUNICATIONS!
I don't think Oakland would give up a 2nd rd pick and Moss for Schaub...
Vick isn't what the Falcon's need.
The Falcon's need recievers who will catch the ball. If you notice the Falcon's have already addressed coaching issues and have all new offensive and defensive coordinators.
The Falcon's should shop Vick.
I wouldn't be suprised if they let him go. His production has plummeted since he left Minnesota, and so has his trade value. I know he's still skilled, but he isn't getting a chance to shine over there. Anyways... no way will Vick be traded, and the day he does, I guarantee it'll be the last moments of both Rich McKay and Arthur Blanks reign with the Falcons. But like I said, it wouldn't happen so I'm not gonna harp on the negative. I've got a positive outlook on next season and can't wait to see what kind of acquisitions we get this offseason. I mean hell, the season isn't even over yet and we already picked up a new head coach and a new offensive and defensive coordinator.Originally Posted by HalfBaked
All falcons ever needed was fucking receivers, we could of kept mora and the offense but def fire the defense cooridinator and receivers coach, keep Lelie and drop all the rest of the scrubs that can't catch
also it wouldn't be a bad idea to trade warrick dun and just run griffith and norwood
I'll agree, we could of kept Mora, but we definatly needed a change at OC and DC... they were SUCKING... I've heard that Norwood is going to really try and work out hard this offseason so hopefully his main drawback (his only drawback that I can think of: durability/aka chicken legs) will be removed. If we can get him to be an almost every down back, that'd be perfect. He's quick as hell, got some insane cuts, and he's young. It's like Warrick Dunn minus 10 years of age and adding a bit of height heh.Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2
I love Dunn... He was so cool when he took a pay cut to stay with the Falcons a few years back...
I'd hate to see Vick go but if it helps us (and Him) so be it....
I'm interested in to see what our new coach has to offer us.
petrino did wonders for louisville but that was college..This is the pros so well see if he can step it up..he used to be the OC for the jaguars so he's had a taste of the NFL
Lets see if him and vick can click...
*crossing my fingers*
*breaks kelly's fingers*
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WTF man?
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I'm trying to download the full petrino press conference but this realplayer thing keeps fucking up.....sheesh
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i think we can say fuck now....
Get Vick the hell out of ATL,then we can win a superbowl....qoute me on the Vick will never win a superbowl and will never make the hall of fame
Too bad his shoes and jersey for that Vikings game are already in the Hall of Fame. So much for that theory.Originally Posted by RX-7_Brad
well of course,thats the only reason hes still around,is cause he sells tickets and jerseysOriginally Posted by HyPer50
vick = most overrated quarter back, or player period
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when vick throws receivers dont catch it.. when he runs.. people complain that he doesnt throw enough...
YOU SIR, ARE AN IGNORANT FUCK, ALONG WITH MOST FALCON "FANS", PERIOD.Originally Posted by ksinao
Originally Posted by Rican219
im not a falcons fan. i hate the falcons, actually. and i will agree with anyone, vick is an amazing athlete, but as an NFL quarterback he doesn't cut it. He got 1,000 yards rushing, thats amazing as well. but he is a quarterback. and until he can learn patience and not rely on running, and only use it as a surprise every now and then, he will not be a top NFL quarterback.
ok tell me something smart guy, put yourself in vicks shoes. if you were a qb and had to throw the ball to those receivers, what the fuck would you do?? i said it already in another thread, and ill say it again, if my life depended on a falcon reciever catching a ball, i would be scared shitlessOriginally Posted by ksinao
Originally Posted by Rican219
do you even watch the games or are you just another bandwagon vick hater?? LOL @ the espn generation, they only know the bs that espn throws at them
Originally Posted by Rican219
yeah your right. it's a conspiracy. everyone at ESPN hates vick, and they make it their personal job to make sure they can fill the heads of mindless viewers with useless stats and clips to make people hate vick.Originally Posted by TeeJay
not just espn, im just using it as an example, nobody WANTS vick to succeed, why i dunno, maybe cause hes black?? who knows
Originally Posted by Rican219
i would continue to throw the ball at the recievers, which is the quarterbacks job. if they don't catch it, then it's on them, but at least i did my job corretctly. teams have running backs, and it is the runningbacks job to run the ball. he would look alot better to everyone if he did his job and didn't try to take the game into his own hands, which hardly ever works.Originally Posted by TeeJay