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    not just espn, im just using it as an example, nobody WANTS vick to succeed, why i dunno, maybe cause hes black?? who knows
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeJay
    not just espn, im just using it as an example, nobody WANTS vick to succeed, why i dunno, maybe cause hes black?? who knows
    or maybe because he's the highest paid football player, and his team is doing shitty. everyone is going to point the finger at the franchise player, if the team is doing bad. no one is going to say 'god, if brooking was doing better they would have won that game' or 'if crumpler had only blocked better things would have gone our way' they are going to blame the player who the franchise puts it's money in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksinao
    or maybe because he's the highest paid football player, and his team is doing shitty. everyone is going to point the finger at the franchise player, if the team is doing bad. no one is going to say 'god, if brooking was doing better they would have won that game' or 'if crumpler had only blocked better things would have gone our way' they are going to blame the player who the franchise puts it's money in.
    everyone who thinks like that is an idiot, i put the blame on who it should be. this year in most games, the blame goes to the secondary, the playcalling, and the receivers
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeJay
    everyone who thinks like that is an idiot, i put the blame on who it should be. this year in most games, the blame goes to the secondary, the playcalling, and the receivers
    and also the people who put blame on the most popular guys obviously dont watch the games or know anything about football, it takes 11 guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeJay
    and also the people who put blame on the most popular guys obviously dont watch the games or know anything about football, it takes 11 guys
    it has nothing to do with 'popular' guys, it has to do with how much money these players are making. the more money, the more they are expected to perfrom. vick makes the most money and is expected to bring his team (yes, his team, as the quarterback he is the team leader) at the very least through the first round of the playoffs. and he hasn't been doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksinao
    it has nothing to do with 'popular' guys, it has to do with how much money these players are making. the more money, the more they are expected to perfrom. vick makes the most money and is expected to bring his team (yes, his team, as the quarterback he is the team leader) at the very least through the first round of the playoffs. and he hasn't been doing that.
    like i said before, anyone who ecpects one man to lead an entire team to a super bowl is obviously an idiot. it is a team game, thats why the patriots are always right there, thats why pittsburgh was there last year. and fyi, in the years vick has made the playoffs, he has gotten past the first round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeJay
    like i said before, anyone who ecpects one man to lead an entire team to a super bowl is obviously an idiot. it is a team game, thats why the patriots are always right there, thats why pittsburgh was there last year. and fyi, in the years vick has made the playoffs, he has gotten past the first round.
    and ill expand on the "team" part, thats why im glad mora is gone, he seemed like he had favorites and was too close to some of his players, which can lead to separation among the team. also, the falcons were always very undisciplined under mora, always scrapping and getting stupid penalties and what not. gotta play smart
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeJay
    like i said before, anyone who ecpects one man to lead an entire team to a super bowl is obviously an idiot. it is a team game, thats why the patriots are always right there, thats why pittsburgh was there last year. and fyi, in the years vick has made the playoffs, he has gotten past the first round.
    obviously you are an idiot. you are right, it is a team game. but in every team, there is a LEADER. and it is usually the quarterback. he is expected to LEAD his team. the patriots are always there because tom brady is an excellent LEADER.

    and yes, he has made it past the first round, but the expectation is to get increasingly better, not increasingly worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeJay
    everyone who thinks like that is an idiot, i put the blame on who it should be. this year in most games, the blame goes to the secondary, the playcalling, and the receivers
    not necessarily. if you were paying outstanding ammounts of money for a secondary with charles woodsen, lito sheppard, and roy williams. and you had the worst pass defense, people would be pissed at the secondary, not because of the fact that the offense didn't score enough. it works the same way here, atlanta put all of its money into a quarterback, that currently, itsn't performing.

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