Good Old EF Mountain Run Fall Edition 11-7-08

[mushroom_toy]

Appreciate it.

[JDMJAYDC2]

tisk tisk tisk kevey kev

[Papa_Smurf]

yea luke, i really like that shot homie. mad props

[rbf]

Does the Squad always have such great teamwork?..& did it make it home?

The guy in the black Ecko shirt your facial expressions are priceless.[in a good way]

[Papa_Smurf]

yea, the squad is always helpful when it comes to cars. we're more like a family than a car club

yea, kevin made it home, and i believe he even drove up to commerce to go drag that night but they canceled it due to weather

[Grimm Reeper]

I'm ready for next time lol

[rbf]

yea, the squad is always helpful when it comes to cars. we're more like a family than a car club

yea, kevin made it home, and i believe he even drove up to commerce to go drag that night but they canceled it due to weather

Well I hope to get a chance to come up sometime in the future.
Seems like good folks and a lot of fun.

[green91]

Hey man we all drive EFs.. every run ive been on we've ended up fixing something in a macgyver style fashion lol.

[KevinT707]

Kevin, dont sweat it man.. everyone who pushes their car to the limits has accidents.. it happens! Ive spun mine out and under steered through turns before. Im just glad it looks like you didn't get hurt and the car should be easy to fix.

With a real stiff rear end its very easy to over steer with an EF, especially since they have little/no weight on the back half. So to the guy who says he doesn't know how its possible, head back over to the European forum where maybe your infinite knowledge will be more useful.

Thanks for support! Yeah I'm not even mad that it happen, just glad that I didn't get hurt & the CRX is fine. In a week or 2 it will be back to normal looking fine & dandy again.

[swollix]

With a real stiff rear end its very easy to over steer with an EF, especially since they have little/no weight on the back half. So to the guy who says he doesn't know how its possible, head back over to the European forum where maybe your infinite knowledge will be more useful.

Ha, I just find it funny that a FWD car with little torque oversteers much easier than my RWD car making twice as much torque. You wanna talk about little to no weight in the back half, well my car definitely has Kevin's beat:


And you can't say my rear suspension is soft either:

[green91]

You do realize the amount of torque in a FWD has nothing to do with it oversteering right? You car probably oversteers when you power it out of a corner, you are inducing oversteer by losing traction with engine power. Plus youve got drivedrain in the rear, in addition to more of your engine weight & transmission BEHIND the front wheels.

FWD oversteer based on virtually no weight except for the passengers & chassis on the rear wheels, in addition to stiff suspension along with a tight rear sway bar. The weight distribution on EF chassis is really closer to 70/30.. I dont see how your lack of spare tire could even make you think your weight distribution is near the same as ours. That being said, both of our vehicles handle VERY well.. its just that the cause of the oversteer conditions are WAY different.

Plus, even by your flawed logic, i bet my car's torque numbers aren't half of yours

[00CelicaGT]

SWOLLIX-ur comparing Apples-oranges to one another. go back to the BMW section!

[green91]

Let him keep on, i like making these guys look like dumbasses.

[swollix]

Ha okay, didn't realize the weight distribution was THAT terrible. I guess I am used to my car's 49.7/50.3 distribution. Also, I have MUCH more than a spare tire removed, My car weighs in at just over 2,700 lbs from a stock weight of 3,200. So the only weight in the rear is from my LSD. I am not making fun of or attacking anyone I was just wondering why Kevin oversteers so easy, because he has been complaining ever since he got the K-sports.

[KevinT707]

So anyway, when are you going to settle this in the mountains? I want to go again soon ..

[mushroom_toy]

^ Im in. XD

[VickNotic]

OVERSTEER FTW

[Papa_Smurf]

So anyway, when are you going to settle this in the mountains? I want to go again soon ..

kevin ur nuts.

me and sum buddies are thinkin about making a night trip up there during thanksgiving break sometime.

[VickNotic]

i'm in, just to prove that DB7 handles like a charm haha

[Echonova]

Ha okay, didn't realize the weight distribution was THAT terrible. I guess I am used to my car's 49.7/50.3 distribution. Also, I have MUCH more than a spare tire removed, My car weighs in at just over 2,700 lbs from a stock weight of 3,200. So the only weight in the rear is from my LSD.

Soooooo your LSD weighs roughly 1350 lbs??

[green91]

This guy really just doesnt get it. Its not even worth trying to debate him.

[mushroom_toy]

kevin ur nuts.

me and sum buddies are thinkin about making a night trip up there during thanksgiving break sometime.

You know who wants in on it.

[Papa_Smurf]

haha i wolnt be leavin my homies our of the loop on this next run, thats for damn sure! that was too much fun.

if i go over thanksgiving week, i'll be taking it easy. i be the cops are pretty active this time of year

[swollix]

Oh god these people. YES, my LSD is 1350 lbs.! How much is yours? I don't see why you guys have to get all defensive about a comment I made and attack me, rather than just explain what caused the oversteer. It's not like I attacked Kevin or meant to offend him, in fact me and him drove to Commerce later that day. I have worked on my car at his house many times... Sorry, not everyone drives and understands what it is like to own a disposable car.

[00CelicaGT]

Oh god these people. YES, my LSD is 1350 lbs.! How much is yours? I don't see why you guys have to get all defensive about a comment I made and attack me, rather than just explain what caused the oversteer. It's not like I attacked Kevin or meant to offend him, in fact me and him drove to Commerce later that day. I have worked on my car at his house many times... Sorry, not everyone drives and understands what it is like to own a disposable car.

ok buddy we understand ur car is RWD, u have LSD, and u posted pics to show off ur suspension mods. my ? to u is why make a statement that u obviously know nothing about. u dont know any factory stats about our car's.

for example:
i know nothing about ur bimmer except that it's RWD, they are pretty quick from factory, and that its a bimmer. i dont know any stats on ur car, like WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION, power to weight, horse power, tourqe, etc....

now why would i make a comment about something i know nothing about, that's wat seperates people with common sense and people who know nothing or someone just wanting to be a smart ass.



p.s.
if we total our car's we wont have a hard time finding another, good luck if ur bimmer gets totaled

[green91]

Sorry, not everyone drives and understands what it is like to own a disposable car.

You are a condescending piece of shit. Not everyone in the EF squad drives them because they are easy to replace or inexpensive.. Ive got a new Tacoma, 2 efs, own a house, and have more toys than you could imagine. I could buy nearly any car i wanted. I drive them because i like the chassis, ease to mod and how well they can handle. Take your bullshit pompous bmw asshole mentality somewhere else, its not wanted here. Its not like older bmws are out of reach of nearly everyone in the world anyway.

[EuroTra$h]

You are a condescending piece of shit. Not everyone in the EF squad drives them because they are easy to replace or inexpensive.. Ive got a new Tacoma, 2 efs, own a house, and have more toys than you could imagine. I could buy nearly any car i wanted. I drive them because i like the chassis, ease to mod and how well they can handle. Take your bullshit pompous bmw asshole mentality somewhere else, its not wanted here. Its not like older bmws are out of reach of nearly everyone in the world anyway.

[Black R]

hmm I was supposed to go, I still don't see how you can oversteer a FWD car.... At least Honda parts are cheap.

hey, not everybody understands how honda's can oversteer.

it's quite common in fwd platforms, just google the term 'lift off oversteer' and do some reading.

Kevin, good to know you'll be back on the road soon.

Somebody hit me up if you decide to go back over thanksgiving holiday - I'll definitely be able to make it.

[KevinT707]

I think yall have attacked my homie Alex (Swollix) enough, he may have deserved it or not I don't really care but yeah no point in arguing so he says sorry & forgive him for his bad manners:

Kevin, good to know you'll be back on the road soon.

Somebody hit me up if you decide to go back over thanksgiving holiday - I'll definitely be able to make it.

Thanks man, & hopefully I'll have my car in cosmetic condition to do it by Thanksgiving holiday too cause I'm down

BTW do you or anyone you know have a 88-91 Civic/CRX radiator support and/or 90-91 CRX front bumper?

[VickNotic]

I think yall have attacked my homie Alex (Swollix) enough, he may have deserved it or not I don't really care but yeah no point in arguing so he says sorry & forgive him for his bad manners:


Thanks man, & hopefully I'll have my car in cosmetic condition to do it by Thanksgiving holiday too cause I'm down

BTW do you or anyone you know have a 88-91 Civic/CRX radiator support and/or 90-91 CRX front bumper?

i Know some1 that has what you need but you'll have to take it apart yourself and i think he askign like $90-100 or someshit.. he's IA handle is kaotickaos someshit

[VickNotic]

Kevin over-steering into the wall







I will post more pictures later

when he told me bout his newnew ksport suspensions, he said he takes corners like champs.. because his rears are stiff, i mention to him bout it say I didn't say so