2011 Porsche 911 Turbo S

[NJSC]

I'm not digging the steering wheel.

[EJ25RUN]

I'm not digging the steering wheel.

What part about it?

Its colors are customizable and it is designed to resemble the 356 wheel's lines while including an airbag.




I'll agree on it needing a standard 6 shift.

[WickedIXMR]

I'm not digging the steering wheel.

You're on fucking crack. That steering wheel is sick.

[Mantooth]

not digging the automatic transmission

it technically is since it shifts for you. you can select the sport mode where you just touch paddles but still

No, it technically isn't. It's a dual clutch transmission., like the F1, E-gear, DCT, SMG, etc.

yea but is there any way to get a formula 1 car to shift for you??

the porsche is automatic unless you wanna use the paddles

Go drive an E46/E90/92/93 M3 or an E60 M5. You can drive the car without using the paddles. Automatic mode doesn't = automatic transmission.

No clutch no care

It's a twin clutch system.

You're on fucking crack. That steering wheel is sick.

I agree, however I wish it had a flat bottom.

A few of you should read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_clutch_transmission

[WickedIXMR]

I was exaggerating an idea to get a point across, dumbass.


All that Im saying is that you cant just look at this car and dismiss it a regular automatic that happens to have some optional shifter paddles. Its so much more than that, and some truely awesome engineering went into it.

Thats all.

Yeah well your point sucks and I'm not exaggerating, dumbass. Yeah there's a lot of engineering behind it but it's still an auto. Not saying it's an auto transmission but it's an auto. It shifts for you with no clutch pedal. To me that's auto and takes all the fun "sportyness" out of a street car. For a race car (ex. F1 car) on the track, yes it's cool because it's much faster but for the street, it's gay.

No, it technically isn't. It's a dual clutch transmission., like the F1, E-gear, DCT, SMG, etc.

Go drive an E46/E90/92/93 M3 or an E60 M5. You can drive the car without using the paddles. Automatic mode doesn't = automatic transmission.

It's a twin clutch system.

I agree, however I wish it had a flat bottom.

A few of you should read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_clutch_transmission

I've had an E46 M3 with an SMG (which isn't a twin clutch trans) so I'm speaking from experience here and it was cool but still auto. Again not auto trans but it was auto. I didn't shift shit. It was boring and took the fun out of a street car. I think for a car like the 911 with so much history and great sports car feeling, for it to come with the twin clutch trans is gay. Of course this is just my opinion.

I do agree the steering wheel would've been sicker with a flat bottom.

[ironchef]

I've had an E46 M3 with an SMG (which isn't a twin clutch trans) so I'm speaking from experience here and it was cool but still auto. Again not auto trans but it was auto. I didn't shift shit. It was boring and took the fun out of a street car. I think for a car like the 911 with so much history and great sports car feeling, for it to come with the twin clutch trans is gay. Of course this is just my opinion.

I do agree the steering wheel would've been sicker with a flat bottom.

Well its not like it ONLY comes with the PDK, its an option. And frankly a good one for a lot of newbie inductees to the Porsche model line.

[Mantooth]

Yeah well your point sucks and I'm not exaggerating, dumbass. Yeah there's a lot of engineering behind it but it's still an auto. Not saying it's an auto transmission but it's an auto. It shifts for you with no clutch pedal. To me that's auto and takes all the fun "sportyness" out of a street car. For a race car (ex. F1 car) on the track, yes it's cool because it's much faster but for the street, it's gay.


I've had an E46 M3 with an SMG (which isn't a twin clutch trans) so I'm speaking from experience here and it was cool but still auto. Again not auto trans but it was auto. I didn't shift shit. It was boring and took the fun out of a street car. I think for a car like the 911 with so much history and great sports car feeling, for it to come with the twin clutch trans is gay. Of course this is just my opinion.

I do agree the steering wheel would've been sicker with a flat bottom.

I agree with it losing the sports car feel. I would prefer to have control of the clutch, but more and more cars nowadays are using these "automatic" transmissions to shave seconds at the track. They're not as fun to drive, but they allow you to pay more attention to driving and less on shifting. Also, they shift a hell of a lot faster than any human could. With that being said, I will take the car with three peddles and a shift linkage.

Speaking of the steering wheel, that's one thing I hate about my car. I would kill for the CLK63 BS steering wheel with the flat bottom.

[WickedIXMR]

I agree with it losing the sports car feel. I would prefer to have control of the clutch, but more and more cars nowadays are using these "automatic" transmissions to shave seconds at the track. They're not as fun to drive, but they allow you to pay more attention to driving and less on shifting. Also, they shift a hell of a lot faster than any human could. With that being said, I will take the car with three peddles and a shift linkage.

Speaking of the steering wheel, that's one thing I hate about my car. I would kill for the CLK63 BS steering wheel with the flat bottom.

Again, I'm not saying it's an automatic transmission, just saying since it has no clutch it's auto to me. Also like I've said, it's cool for the track because it's faster but again it's a street car not a race car. You are right about it shifting faster than a human and it helps you at the track because I've taken my M3 to a track and it made it a hell of a lot easier to track. It was like a walk in the park but again for the street it was just plain boring. If I had a car that it's sole purpose was for the track, I'd take a twin clutch trans car any day. But for the street, manual all day long.

As for the steering wheel, there is just something about flat botton steering wheels huh? I need to get one for the Evo now haha.

[Mantooth]

Again, I'm not saying it's an automatic transmission, just saying since it has no clutch it's auto to me. Also like I've said, it's cool for the track because it's faster but again it's a street car not a race car. You are right about it shifting faster than a human and it helps you at the track because I've taken my M3 to a track and it made it a hell of a lot easier to track. It was like a walk in the park but again for the street it was just plain boring. If I had a car that it's sole purpose was for the track, I'd take a twin clutch trans car any day. But for the street, manual all day long.

As for the steering wheel, there is just something about flat bottom steering wheels huh? I need to get one for the Evo now haha.

I agree with all of the above, but straight up automatics attached to paddle shifters blowwwwwwww. Fuuuuu U, Mercedes!

With a flat, smaller steering wheels, you feel like you have a lot more control of the car. I LOVE that feeling, even in a bigger sedan.

[VooDooXII]

I'm not digging the steering wheel.

Really? That's my favorite part. I think this wheel looks much better than Porsche's previous offerings...especially this one.


What I'd like to know though...with 530 bhp, is this a replacement for the GT2? If not, where is the GT2 going to stand as far as power goes? This is ridiculous!

[ironchef]

Really? That's my favorite part. I think this wheel looks much better than Porsche's previous offerings...especially this one.


What I'd like to know though...with 530 bhp, is this a replacement for the GT2? If not, where is the GT2 going to stand as far as power goes? This is ridiculous!

I think they might position it such that GT3 : GT3-RS = Turbo S : GT2.

Unless of course the rumored GT2-RS comes out, then I'm not sure. Neither the GT2/(RS) are high volume models like the Turbo (S), so I don't think it will be too much of an issue.