My RX7 project...in process again.

[David88vert]

I've ridden in a FD with a LSx. Didn't feel as fun as a turbo. Maybe if the LSx had a big turbo it would be more fun....

[quickdodge®]

I can understand and appreciate that. Maybe when I get my wheel fixed, I can give you some first hand experience that might change your mind.

Thank you. And I doubt you'd change my mind, but I would definitely welcome a ride. Lolol. +37 to you for being cool in this. Later, QD.

[1439/2000]

I've ridden in a FD with a LSx. Didn't feel as fun as a turbo. Maybe if the LSx had a big turbo it would be more fun....

I make 330whp on the efini twins and I'm sure a stock ls1 car would be edged out by just a little.

However the v8 cars with a cam/heads/spray etc would walk me. I feel with a rotary with the twins still gives me enough low end to be a very fun and balanced car. I'm not 100% sold on the LSX swap for my car yet. I think every RX-7 owner considers it when they pop their motor though. lol

[Elbow]

So drive your car hard and stop popping motors.

[SLOWR/T]

I have ridden in a LSX FC and that really changed my mind on what I wanted. I had first bought a street ported TII for my project but decided that what I wanted to do Id just need to go piston. I did sacrfice and get a LT instead of a LS but it will be a good starter for me.

[redrumracer]

I have ridden in a LSX FC and that really changed my mind on what I wanted. I had first bought a street ported TII for my project but decided that what I wanted to do Id just need to go piston. I did sacrfice and get a LT instead of a LS but it will be a good starter for me.

a LT isnt a bad choice, hell turn it into a 383. while you have it out.

[Elbow]

PP 20B > ANY V8 lol

[redrumracer]

PP 20B > ANY V8 lol

[1439/2000]

PP 20B > ANY V8 lol

No thanks. An NA 3 rotor is boring. RE amemiya JGTC car was a NA 3 rotot and it was fast because it didnt weigh anything and the other cars had restrictors. A big single 2 rotor or 3 rotor, sure but na its not fun. I have ridden in NA pp 12a's in FBs and they are quick but they are not FAST.

V8's are going to be better than any NA rotary in cost of money and reliability at the same power levels. I'm staying 13b-rew as long as possible while its running good but if it pops, I'll have to think long and hard about what I want to put in there.

[man]

TURDBOW POWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Elbow]

No thanks. An NA 3 rotor is boring. RE amemiya JGTC car was a NA 3 rotot and it was fast because it didnt weigh anything and the other cars had restrictors. A big single 2 rotor or 3 rotor, sure but na its not fun. I have ridden in NA pp 12a's in FBs and they are quick but they are not FAST.

V8's are going to be better than any NA rotary in cost of money and reliability at the same power levels. I'm staying 13b-rew as long as possible while its running good but if it pops, I'll have to think long and hard about what I want to put in there.

I guess it depends what you want to do. But I have seen tons of NA rotaries kill V8 cars and turbo rotaries, and I personally road race, and would much rather have NA.

[Elbow]

Yes really. I'd still rather have a NA 20B then that.

[1439/2000]

I guess it depends what you want to do. But I have seen tons of NA rotaries kill V8 cars and turbo rotaries, and I personally road race, and would much rather have NA.

Ok but you dont have an FD. I have ridden in just about every configuration of them before I bought mine and a big single 2 rotor and ls1 cars were the most fun. I rode in a turbo cosmo swap which is 3 rotor and while its responsive, it doesnt hit like the hi revving 2 rotors.

NA 3 rotors are responsive but they dont have a big turbo kick you get at 4500 rpm or 500 ft lbs of torque out of an LS1 throw you in your seat in a 2700 lb car.

[Elbow]

Right I don't HAVE one, doesn't mean I havent driven them.

[87 Turbo II]

But yea agreed, there are a lot of rx7s on IA that don't get much attention. We should have a meet. I can bring mine out in a few weeks. I need to put a few things back together and some front brakes. It'll be nice to have a meet before I really tear it apart.

Yeah a meet with a lot of pics would be great. I'd come out. I love Rx-7s sooo much.

[1439/2000]

Let's do it then. I'm making a thread in the Mazda section.

[Jonflip29]

I'm down for a meet.

On the other hand, with this debate about rotors to pistons. I personally am going to keep a turbo rotary (whether it be a 13b or 20b) in my rx7 b/c it is a unique car and should stay unique for what it is. Yea throwing a LS or any other V8 might sound mean and fun but it doesn't qualify for being an rx7 after that. Its like putting a K20 in another Honda, or an RB in another Nissan...Thats acceptable b/c your staying within the family. But going from two different makes and from import to domestic and mixing all that shyt up. Man you must be a confused person to want that. As for me, I like to keep it original and stay in the family. Turbo Rotary FTW! Now I only say turbo rotary b/c I haven't been impressed by any NA rotary. If someone can show me the light, then please feel free.

[redrumracer]

Yea but a lsx is lighter than the rotary and all the supporting equipment thats involved with the turbo, actually you end up LOSING weight by swapping in a LSx, and the torque you get from it is nice also but its your car and do what will make you happy, i just had to interject some more v8 rx7 propaganda.

[Jonflip29]

Yea but a lsx is lighter than the rotary and all the supporting equipment thats involved with the turbo, actually you end up LOSING weight by swapping in a LSx, and the torque you get from it is nice also but its your car and do what will make you happy, i just had to interject some more v8 rx7 propaganda.

Ehh, i wasn't referring to weight loss and gains but i understand where your coming from.

[1439/2000]

I like v8 swaps but having a rotary is fun. The sounds are like crazy. Boost at 8k rpm is a roar in the fd. Boost at 10k in my old car with the streetport was like an F1 car.

[Elbow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ieBKyaVHO0 (1:15)

[redrumracer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ieBKyaVHO0 (1:15)

and how much money is needed for power like that out of a rotary? v8, drop in and have that kind of fun, with huge reliable power up grades available in the future at a good cost.

[redrumracer]

oh and i still like the sound of a good ole v8 under the hood.

[SiLkY_JohnSon]

Clean interior for a Fc

[David88vert]

Yea but a lsx is lighter than the rotary and all the supporting equipment thats involved with the turbo, actually you end up LOSING weight by swapping in a LSx, and the torque you get from it is nice also but its your car and do what will make you happy, i just had to interject some more v8 rx7 propaganda.

That's only true if you use a bare, stripped down V8 install on an all aluminum block and heads. If you strip the extras off the rotary and go single, it is lighter than the V8 can get PLUS the weight is located where it should be - lower down and farther back. This allows the cars handling to be much better balanced. It is cheaper to rebuild a rotary, and pull 350rwhp out of it, than to buy all of the parts necessary to install a V8.
As for reliability, my supercharged, 60K mile Mustang has broken down and cost me a lot more than my 160K+ mile FD ever did.
As for cost - I just sold one of my rotarys to my cousin for $3K - complete with Haltech, HKS boost controller, Turbonetics T-76, 1600cc injectors, FMIC, Aeromotice fuel system, etc. Everything needed for installing it. Engine did 618rwhp @ 28psi in the old chassis. Do you happen to have a full 600rwhp V8 setup for sale around that price that weighs the same?
If you know what you are doing, rotarys are very hard to beat for value.

[1439/2000]

As for cost - I just sold one of my rotarys to my cousin for $3K - complete with Haltech, HKS boost controller, Turbonetics T-76, 1600cc injectors, FMIC, Aeromotice fuel system, etc. Everything needed for installing it. Engine did 618rwhp @ 28psi in the old chassis. Do you happen to have a full 600rwhp V8 setup for sale around that price that weighs the same?
If you know what you are doing, rotarys are very hard to beat for value.

OMG why didnt I buy that setup? lol

[eraser4g63]

Everyone is buying RX-7s now.

[Elbow]

That's only true if you use a bare, stripped down V8 install on an all aluminum block and heads. If you strip the extras off the rotary and go single, it is lighter than the V8 can get PLUS the weight is located where it should be - lower down and farther back. This allows the cars handling to be much better balanced. It is cheaper to rebuild a rotary, and pull 350rwhp out of it, than to buy all of the parts necessary to install a V8.
As for reliability, my supercharged, 60K mile Mustang has broken down and cost me a lot more than my 160K+ mile FD ever did.
As for cost - I just sold one of my rotarys to my cousin for $3K - complete with Haltech, HKS boost controller, Turbonetics T-76, 1600cc injectors, FMIC, Aeromotice fuel system, etc. Everything needed for installing it. Engine did 618rwhp @ 28psi in the old chassis. Do you happen to have a full 600rwhp V8 setup for sale around that price that weighs the same?
If you know what you are doing, rotarys are very hard to beat for value.

[1439/2000]

Everyone is buying RX-7s now.

I had half of one powering my 911 before my fd.

[87 Turbo II]

Now I only say turbo rotary b/c I haven't been impressed by any NA rotary. If someone can show me the light, then please feel free.

MY NA Rx-7 is faster than my TII was. Then again the TII was stock and this is highly modded but I';ll give you a little ride at the Rx-7 meet. I'm not claiming it's super duper quick, but it's a decent for an N/A stock port 13B probably nearing as quick as N/A gets without porting. MY car is a bit of a sleeper. Once again, nothing too special, but it ALWAY surprises people who ride in it for the first time. Think a high powered hard top Miata with a more reliable engine :p.

[UpSideDownDesi]

we should have a gtgther and work on ur RX-7's lol......install day meet.

[Jonflip29]

we should have a gtgther and work on ur RX-7's lol......install day meet.

Good idea but I doubt you guys want to drive all the way to Conyers to help me work on my rx7.

[Boosted FC]

One day I will rejoin the Rotary family. Just enjoying the 6 a little too much right now .

[Elbow]

MY NA Rx-7 is faster than my TII was. Then again the TII was stock and this is highly modded but I';ll give you a little ride at the Rx-7 meet. I'm not claiming it's super duper quick, but it's a decent for an N/A stock port 13B probably nearing as quick as N/A gets without porting. MY car is a bit of a sleeper. Once again, nothing too special, but it ALWAY surprises people who ride in it for the first time. Think a high powered hard top Miata with a more reliable engine :p.

A Miata engine isn't reliable? lol

[87 Turbo II]

A Miata engine isn't reliable? lol

Haha no, it was just something a guy at the autocross said to me. HE was like "I love my first gen, it's a hardtop Miata with a more reliable engine." I replied "I've never heard anyone call a rotary more reliable than anyhting without hearing the word 'DSM' next." Then he pointed out that these first gens really never break down. 1st gen 12As and 13Bs have 3mm apex seals. Thus the redline @ 7K instead of 8K like the FC 13Bs, but they last until 250K miles, but no, the Miata engine isn't unreliable.

[Elbow]

Ohhh lol ok gotcha

[SLOWR/T]

Ok heres a thread. No need to screw up the mans build thread.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...0#post37268830

[Jonflip29]

Ok heres a thread. No need to screw up the mans build thread.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...0#post37268830

haha thanks.

[Jonflip29]

Ok heres a thread. No need to screw up the mans build thread.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...0#post37268830

Haha thanks. Funny how things can switch topics that fast.