EJRUN and Jesse are idiots, there's no sense trying to convince someone 2+2=4 when he believes it's 9. Some people are too dumb to be able to recognize a great car when they see it. OF course the GTR isn't the best car out there, but it is a refined automobile that is the WHOLE package in stock form. And you shouldn't talk of how the car drives itself when you've never drove it noob. But yes, I believe a 6-speed option would've been nice...
I have driven it, in fact i made a thread about it. well, not really about driving it, but i did beat the isht out of it for a few hours, pure unadulterated sex if i may say so.Originally Posted by NissanTun3r
Yeah, I know.
My thing is the Skyline GTR, has ALWAYS! been ahead of its time. and has ALWAYS had crazy gadgets. Along with almost 90% of japanese cars. And this old vs. new argument is always the same.. the old is always better to some. When the numbers tell a different story.
Look Maximus......if your gonna call me an idiot.....AGAIN.
Lets see how you did this time. I'll break it down for you.
You......
My earlier response.
You....
My earlier response.
You do realize you basically repeated the words i already said.
Your so proud right now that you just cant agree to disagree. I been on this site a long time and more than a few people know i'm reasonable and never talk nonsense. If you like th GTR ......great.....go get it. Me.....not so much.
If you cant sleep at night cause everyone doesn't agree with what you have to say, too bad man.
Last edited by EJ25RUN; 08-19-2008 at 01:54 PM.
gtr:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImDh5X6lGVQ
a little more driver involvement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Tho...eature=related
I own an original copy of a 1987 Road and Track "The Worlds Fastest Cars" where the RUF Yellow Bird became the worlds fastest car with a top speed of 211 MPH in 1987!!! There are only 29 original Yellow Birds that were ever made.
I'll never understand why people can't accept that some people aren't going to like certain cars. Retards.
its not the opinion its the reasoning behind it that people dont agree with..
if you just say the gt-r is ugly, then that is a respectable perspective, one that everyone is entitled to, however, to not respect a car of that caliber while being savvy about cars is what i dont understand.
Yeah, I know.
Only if it was miata
its not that big of a deal.
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Looks like that ass munch can't park or doesn't care.
You respect a car for different reasons though.
I respect a Porsche 911 for never changing the need to be a drivers car and stick with that at all costs. It is one of the reasons it took this long for Porsche to shove a dual clutch gearbox in the 911 even though they began using said system in the 1980's 962 racer.
Porsche made this mistake of over technologically revolutionizing a car with the 959. A car that 20 years later was still voted as the best Porsche of all time ahead of the 1973 911 RS, Carrera GT, 550 Spyder and any other Porsche street car ever made. But there was a problem. In its time the 959 was so advanced that the driver wasn't as "necessary" or "involved" as he once was. You basically felt like a passenger letting the 959 show you how amazing it is.
This is what i see in the GTR. A GREAT GREAT car that was forced to give up the thrill in order to be as fast as possible. Well, they did it. They gave the chance for an average person to drive like a talent even if they lack it.
You gotta look at cars full circle. That's how i do it.
P.S., those Nurburgring lap times people say them like they can do it.
Yes 7:29 is phenomenal BUT.....it was ex F1 driver Toshio Suzuki that got those times. So he has a very tall talent barrier. And it is safe to say a high talent can get any car to do extraordinary things. I say that a regular driver. One with track experience but not F1 grade can prolly swing that car around in 7:35-7:36.
I understand what you are saying man, i guess my standpoint is coming from inexperience, and never having any track experience with cars of that caliber. I just think that a fast car is a fast car, and all the r&d nissan put in the gtr is there for a reason, that being said, if designing cars and making them easier to drive while still breaking records is what the future holds, then neither you, nor myself can change that. What happens when porche makes a supercar only available in auto that sets a new record? what would be your view then? see my point? we evolve things to make our lives easier, something nissan showed us. we cant stop change and one day we may look back and say, "man, i cant believe people had to change the gears themselves and activate the clutch with their feet!"You respect a car for different reasons though.
I respect a Porsche 911 for never changing the need to be a drivers car and stick with that at all costs. It is one of the reasons it took this long for Porsche to shove a dual clutch gearbox in the 911 even though they began using said system in the 1980's 962 racer.
Porsche made this mistake of over technologically revolutionizing a car with the 959. A car that 20 years later was still voted as the best Porsche of all time ahead of the 1973 911 RS, Carrera GT, 550 Spyder and any other Porsche street car ever made. But there was a problem. In its time the 959 was so advanced that the driver wasn't as "necessary" or "involved" as he once was. You basically felt like a passenger letting the 959 show you how amazing it is.
This is what i see in the GTR. A GREAT GREAT car that was forced to give up the thrill in order to be as fast as possible. Well, they did it. They gave the chance for an average person to drive like a talent even if they lack it.
You gotta look at cars full circle. That's how i do it.
P.S., those Nurburgring lap times people say them like they can do it.
Yes 7:29 is phenomenal BUT.....it was ex F1 driver Toshio Suzuki that got those times. So he has a very tall talent barrier. And it is safe to say a high talent can get any car to do extraordinary things. I say that a regular driver. One with track experience but not F1 grade can prolly swing that car around in 7:35-7:36.
In the end there is only the win.
Yeah, I know.
True, but some people(including me) think it's overrated. I do love it and all, but there's too many fanboys ruining it who not only know nothing about it or cars in general, they're willing to dish out personal and stupid insults to anyone who doesn't want to beat off everytime they see one. People just need to understand there are better cars out there, and the GTR is not a driving man's vehicle. It was designed to make anyone look good, and while it's performance is pretty remarkable for the price, true drivers do recognize that the GTR takes away the real driving experience.
trust me, if im a fanboy, then im a honda fanboy, not nissan. So i can talk about the gtr all day, in the end, i dont really care for nissan. but i do know one thing, honda has nothing to compete with the gtr right now.
Yeah, I know.
Of coarse, but there are little victories. The M5 getting a manual from consumer demand years back was one.
Little off topic but in the early 90's, Porsche is credited with making Automatics fun when they began using an Auto that lets you go out of D and go up and down. One of the first tiptronic transmissions.
But back to Supercars, Porsche is working on the Carrera GT replacement and i'll myself agree that this time, it's all about breaking records. All though i doubt it will be a true Automatic, prolly a development of the PDK boxs that are being put in 911s now.
And there you hit it. Once you hit the race track, winning at all cost is the only way.
Paddle Shifters in 1989, Wings in 1967, Ceramic brakes in 1977, 4wd in 1979. All these things were thought of as being to heavy, fragile, or unproven, but today, in their respective field, it is a must.
Today, Formula 1 aerodynamicists are hated because even though the cars can corner at ungodly speeds, the racing is gone. 2008 is a great year in that traction control has finally been banned with the use of a standardized ECU.
All valid, informative and intelligent responses. thanks!
Yeah, I know.
All you have to do is watch the first 10 seconds of this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXuYftXg2-c
Notice how the gtr is sliding wide and understeering as its going through the turn... Then it magically grips, and goes around the corner.
Then watch the rx7's driver and how many steering imputs he has to make compare to the gtr drver.
The rx7 is much more involving, and at the end of the day probablly more rewarding to drive than the gtr.
Which one you choose is up to you tho.
So you bought a maxima?
I'm just that guy that spends all his time printing.... T-shirts, banners, vinyl, etc.
"Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary.... that's what gets you"
But the rx7 probrably has alot more pwer than the r35, and weighs half as much. And is a beast to drive.
the Gtr sure did sound great!..
I'd rather have a Miata...
GTR FTMFL
i do not like the styling of the new GTR. I think it's boring, plastic, and square.
I do not care about power, so a 10 second car to me means low gas mileage.
I'm still trying to fighre out where 10 sec 1/4 mile came from? Maybe mid 11's
that's what the nissan guy said it was
interesting...
He lied
Thats a fully built rx7, tuned for that track specifically. i have that video.But the rx7 probrably has alot more pwer than the r35, and weighs half as much. And is a beast to drive.
the Gtr sure did sound great!..
Yeah, I know.
LOL ummm no. Go drive a new GTR AND a E30 M3 and tell us how you feel. Unless you suck at driving entirely you will like the M3 more. The GTR takes no talent to be quick.
But the GTR is also 4WD and just like in a front wheel drive car when you apply power. It will not magically get grip but the load being put on the front tires straightening you.
and you expect an honest answer.....COOMMMONN
AT VERY LEAST....if the rest of the field crashed in practice
Ok Mom.
i've driven fast cars, and this automatic G35 doesn't interest me.
If I were to spend 80k-100k dollars on a car, I would rather it look different than a g35 with round tail lights.
I'd just as soon buy 20 sets of wheels and a safe storage area before I bought a "Skyline"
its not physics... physics does not exist.
stock gtr ran like a 11.7? or something....
if any GTR is shaped like a square it would be the r34...lol
huh?
One of those needs Jenny Craig.
haha.. you'd do the same damn thing!
new NSX is worse than the new GTR..
V10 in a honda... just stupid to me.
LOLOL reps given.
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