Some cool Hachi pics.....

[06SilverBullet]

This is a friend's car in Hawaii, and 1 more....




















Mark

[HachiDori]

Clean.

It seem like no one on ia replies to ae86 threads. lol

[prosoto]

It's because there's no B16 under the hood .
I would hate to have that baby this time of year with all the pollen. Such is the burden of white (and/or black) cars. Shame I don't see many hachi's like that on this side of the world. Or I'm just in the wrong side of Atlanta.

[Elbow]

nice corolla

[EJ_Allmota]

shits clean..

[AlliRae]

i like the blue wires

[HachiDori]

maybe wrong side of atlanta. There are actually a few decent ones that run around gwinnet/chamblee/ scenic highway area.

mhm.

[Stormhammer]

^^^ word

there's are 2 in suwanee area

looks clean tho... 20v?

[prosoto]

Nah. 16V with the timing belt cover removed, nice wires, and a fancy oil cap. Can't tell if it's a blue top or red top but it sure is pretty inside and out.

[HachiDori]

Most likely a bluetop.....

[Humphrizzle]

why do people like these? besides the fact that they're "JDM" and rear wheel drive?

[GSRteg®]

I like it!

[HachiDori]

Cause everyone had their own taste, and they are way more fun to drive than a honda.

And aperantly(sp) not everyone likes them...

[Sol-Badguy]

I've been trying to find one for a while, but the only ones I've found are coupes, and are really crappy.

I've owned nothing but hatchbacks, save for my Prelude, and that's what I'd want.

They're just to hard to find in good condition, and then people want a mint for them.

[HachiDori]

yes, i hate hatchbacks to tell you the truth. Im glad, coupes are cheaper and easier to find in better cond. I was lucky to snatch mine up. Cleanest out of the 4 ive owned. all others were.....20yrs old lol. 2 sr5 hatch 2 gt-s coupes, and the gt-s coupe i have now.

[mocha latte cupcake]

86 FTW! clean cars. i <3 an 86 cause in its own element it will still perform as good or better than newer cars with 80's technology

[Sport1.3]

Nah. 16V with the timing belt cover removed, nice wires, and a fancy oil cap. Can't tell if it's a blue top or red top but it sure is pretty inside and out.

Its def the stock bluetop (largeport).

its clean, though he needs to fix his AFM so it sits level, and def get some JDM bumpers...they look so much cleaner

why do people like these? besides the fact that they're "JDM" and rear wheel drive?

Well back in the early 80's they were very competitive road race cars (IT classes etc) here in the US. They are light weight, Rear wheel drive, 5 link rear, cheap, and had an amazing twin cam motor for back then. remember anything N/A 4 cylinder making 100+hp factor was pretty exclusive. later other companies caught on and the Corolla died off here, with the exception of a few enthusiasts. Then came that God awful Anime show Initial D, and hell broke loose. Then everyone in japan was wanting to run like Takumi and drift an "86" lol....then slowly but surely the US market caught on, and everyone and their mother wanted an outdated, underpowered version of the same car that became popular in the TV series. For the most part, the only reason ppl run them now a days is the Nostalgic effect they have on the owners, that or as an entry level drift car, in which case is ab the only thing they are somewhat good for or competitive at....they handle like shit. In any case they are pretty fun cars to own and if done up right can even look pretty good. As for Accords though......wtf were you thinking!

[HachiDori]

Its def the stock bluetop (largeport).

its clean, though he needs to fix his AFM so it sits level, and def get some JDM bumpers...they look so much cleaner





Well back in the early 80's they were very competitive road race cars (IT classes etc) here in the US. They are light weight, Rear wheel drive, 5 link rear, cheap, and had an amazing twin cam motor for back then. remember anything N/A 4 cylinder making 100+hp factor was pretty exclusive. later other companies caught on and the Corolla died off here, with the exception of a few enthusiasts. Then came that God awful Anime show Initial D, and hell broke loose. Then everyone in japan was wanting to run like Takumi and drift an "86" lol....then slowly but surely the US market caught on, and everyone and their mother wanted an outdated, underpowered version of the same car that became popular in the TV series. For the most part, the only reason ppl run them now a days is the Nostalgic effect they have on the owners, that or as an entry level drift car, in which case is ab the only thing they are somewhat good for or competitive at....they handle like shit. In any case they are pretty fun cars to own and if done up right can even look pretty good. As for Accords though......wtf were you thinking!

Wtf? Corollas do not handle like shit. The one i own now has Cut springs and handles very nicely for cut springs. And nice set of hts shocks and choosing the correct spring would be alot better. Imo the corolla is awesome to drive, moded 4age redtop can put some decent power. N/a ofcourse. And not everyone owns one. unlike a honda. 240s etc.

[Sport1.3]

Wtf? Corollas do not handle like shit. The one i own now has Cut springs and handles very nicely for cut springs. And nice set of hts shocks and choosing the correct spring would be alot better. Imo the corolla is awesome to drive, moded 4age redtop can put some decent power. N/a ofcourse. And not everyone owns one. unlike a honda. 240s etc.

You're right SOME corollas dont, but the AE86 is not a Amazing handling car in todays standereds, in fact those hondas that "everyone has" would run circles around it for the most part (ex. look at any IT series that still runs them...they are dominated by hondas lol)....if you want a great handling corolla get an AE92 or AE111. both FWD and both would hand even a somewhat modded AE86 its ass on track. CUT SPRINGS!! ....please get that fixed. i will give you that though...they are very fun to drive, being that they are very predictable and somewhat peppy that going back to the Nostalgic feeling i was talking ab earlier.....the 16v is a pretty fun motor to scoot around in but it takes ALOT of money to make a redtop "fast".....believe me in know. 20v or GZE is where its at as far as a somewhat fast, yet streetable 4ag is concerned. I'm not downing your car at all...i happen to like most all model years of corolla (especially late 80's early 90's) but the current over hyped attitude that they are some kinda handling/drift monster just bothers me......i'm not a huge fan boy but you should really try out those honda's before u knock them

[prosoto]

why do people like these? besides the fact that they're "JDM" and rear wheel drive?

Main reason I like mine is because old Toyota's are all I've ever known. My first car was a hand-me-down 1983 5-speed Corolla SR5 hatchback that I received when I was 15. My parents bought it when they married in 1984 and it had been in our family ever since. My dad gave me the car and the Toyota repair manual and said that if I can have it running in a year then I will have a car to drive when I got my license. I still have that car. I still love that car, but time came for me to have my own car that I could tinker with since the '83 was pretty much done. I decided I'd stick to what I know and went to the AE86 since it had more power, looked cooler, and it wasn't too expensive since I don't have wads of cash like a lot of people I see on here. Practical, easy to work on, and it's fun to drive (RWD FTW!!). But as I've seen on this forum many many times: to each his (her) own.

[06SilverBullet]

I will try to post up more pics soon...You may be able to see more on this website: www.tkc.forumsplace.com


Mark

[HachiDori]

You're right SOME corollas dont, but the AE86 is not a Amazing handling car in todays standereds, in fact those hondas that "everyone has" would run circles around it for the most part (ex. look at any IT series that still runs them...they are dominated by hondas lol)....if you want a great handling corolla get an AE92 or AE111. both FWD and both would hand even a somewhat modded AE86 its ass on track. CUT SPRINGS!! ....please get that fixed. i will give you that though...they are very fun to drive, being that they are very predictable and somewhat peppy that going back to the Nostalgic feeling i was talking ab earlier.....the 16v is a pretty fun motor to scoot around in but it takes ALOT of money to make a redtop "fast".....believe me in know. 20v or GZE is where its at as far as a somewhat fast, yet streetable 4ag is concerned. I'm not downing your car at all...i happen to like most all model years of corolla (especially late 80's early 90's) but the current over hyped attitude that they are some kinda handling/drift monster just bothers me......i'm not a huge fan boy but you should really try out those honda's before u knock them

I've owned hondas, I've never driven them as far as handle wise those were car i had intended to make fast. So, im not really knocking. I understand what you are saying, everyone has their own opinion, and i beleive with a correct driver, susp, and etc the corolla would own a fwd. Wouldnt know from experience but...As far as the cuts yeah...i know it pretty sad. I got it like that and for now it does it. ksport coilovers is what im looking it for the price and no custom cutting or welding and shit. so...i have a redtop in mine and my good friend who use to own the car before me ran a 14.8 or 14.9 and will get a copy when he comes back down to ga, just to prove a redtop can be quick yet again the motor is built.

So.....16v ftw, no matter what i still love my corolla.

[prosoto]

Sorry for the thread-jack but these made me happy when I saw them, but didn't know of any other threads to post them in and I didn't think they warranted a new thread. I take no credit for making these either:

[GSRteg®]

LOL

[Sport1.3]

I've owned hondas, I've never driven them as far as handle wise those were car i had intended to make fast. So, im not really knocking. I understand what you are saying, everyone has their own opinion, and i beleive with a correct driver, susp, and etc the corolla would own a fwd. Wouldnt know from experience but...As far as the cuts yeah...i know it pretty sad. I got it like that and for now it does it. ksport coilovers is what im looking it for the price and no custom cutting or welding and shit. so...i have a redtop in mine and my good friend who use to own the car before me ran a 14.8 or 14.9 and will get a copy when he comes back down to ga, just to prove a redtop can be quick yet again the motor is built.

So.....16v ftw, no matter what i still love my corolla.

well with that similar set up on an AE92 it would also be light years faster. put it this way....AE86 cup cars in japan lap Tsukuba at their fastest in the 1:00 range...... they are basically running FA spec N/A 16v/20v's and tuned to their complete MAX! Spirits AE92 with a somewhat heavily modefied DLi GZE making 220-230whp (ab the same as Top cup cars) laps more then a sec quicker!! Yeah if you need any help getting even stock springs talk to me....riding on cut or heated springs can be dangerous. The 16v's are decent motors....smallports in semi street trim can net decent power.....you should really think ab upgrading to a GZE...the tq in them from such a little motor is mind blowing....not to mention it would drop you into the 13's with upgraded pulley and exhaust alone. If you're bent on NA then go 20v. I just had a friend dyno his Blacktop, completely stock at 151whp!! it FLYS!!!! plus the sound from the ITB's is mind blowing!!

[HachiDori]

Im not stuck on n/a, been def thinking either a gze swap or spending more cash on the chassis to reinforce for a sr.

Idk. You make a good point and cant really argue with it.

[Sport1.3]

well if you're not stuck on NA...i would def go Smallport GZE (AE101 GZE) or if you have alittle extra cash build it up using a 7afe crank and aftermarket 7af rods/wrist pins. this will give you HUGE amounts or tq, basically making a 1.8 liter version of the 4agze....aka a 7agze! also an easy way to 200whp! ...with this set up you may not make more power, but you will hit 15-16psi (aftermarket pulley) before the SR even hits threshold (spools) lol...INSTANT TQ!

[HachiDori]

Thanks for the info bro, will keep all in consideration when ever i can get cash to continue my journey lol

[06SilverBullet]

I would love to own a nicely modded Hachi one day....


Mark

[SampaGuy]

You're right SOME corollas dont, but the AE86 is not a Amazing handling car in todays standereds, in fact those hondas that "everyone has" would run circles around it for the most part (ex. look at any IT series that still runs them...they are dominated by hondas lol)....if you want a great handling corolla get an AE92 or AE111. both FWD and both would hand even a somewhat modded AE86 its ass on track. CUT SPRINGS!! ....please get that fixed. i will give you that though...they are very fun to drive, being that they are very predictable and somewhat peppy that going back to the Nostalgic feeling i was talking ab earlier.....the 16v is a pretty fun motor to scoot around in but it takes ALOT of money to make a redtop "fast".....believe me in know. 20v or GZE is where its at as far as a somewhat fast, yet streetable 4ag is concerned. I'm not downing your car at all...i happen to like most all model years of corolla (especially late 80's early 90's) but the current over hyped attitude that they are some kinda handling/drift monster just bothers me......i'm not a huge fan boy but you should really try out those honda's before u knock them

actually taka aono (yes the formula d driver) won the scca autocross nationals a few years ago (2002 or 2003 i think) with a ae86 in street prepared

[KPowerEP3]

since there are some corolla lovers in here...

do any of you know who drives a clean looking red hachi? I see it parked on the side of 54 at a warehouse in the Jonesboro/Morrow area a lot

[Sport1.3]

actually taka aono (yes the formula d driver) won the scca autocross nationals a few years ago (2002 or 2003 i think) with a ae86 in street prepared

You are correct, it was 2003. It won in FSP, Beating a slew of Scirocco's and a Mazda Protége. Mind you, he is also a professional driver and that car was extensively modified to the constraints of the rule book (I.E not stock). Also, for comparison purposes, note the class ranking for the car has gone down for competitive performance reasons in the last 10 years. It used to be in the same ranks as the Miata's and MR2's back when they were all in ES. (Now the Miata is both ES and CS, and MR2 is all over the place lol). I never said the Corolla was a slouch; just that it’s not some super handling monster.

57.314 ______ ASP ___ Chevy Corvette C5

57.830 ______ SM ____ ’95 BMW M3

58.254 ______ CSP ___ Toyota MR2 Spyder

58.291 ______ SS ____ Chevy Corvette C4

58.500 ______ BSP ___ Chevy Corvette C4

58.870 ______ DSP ___ Lexus IS300

59.076 ______ BS ____ Honda S2000

59.305 ______ FSP ___ Toyota Corolla

[SampaGuy]

You are correct, it was 2003. It won in FSP, Beating a slew of Scirocco's and a Mazda Protége. Mind you, he is also a professional driver and that car was extensively modified to the constraints of the rule book (I.E not stock). Also, for comparison purposes, note the class ranking for the car has gone down for competitive performance reasons in the last 10 years. It used to be in the same ranks as the Miata's and MR2's back when they were all in ES. (Now the Miata is both ES and CS, and MR2 is all over the place lol). I never said the Corolla was a slouch; just that it’s not some super handling monster.

57.314 ______ ASP ___ Chevy Corvette C5

57.830 ______ SM ____ ’95 BMW M3

58.254 ______ CSP ___ Toyota MR2 Spyder

58.291 ______ SS ____ Chevy Corvette C4

58.500 ______ BSP ___ Chevy Corvette C4

58.870 ______ DSP ___ Lexus IS300

59.076 ______ BS ____ Honda S2000

59.305 ______ FSP ___ Toyota Corolla

yup i still have an old GRM that has an article on how he would tune his car with a laptop between runs (i dont know if a lot of people do that today, but that was unheard of back then)

[Sport1.3]

yup i still have an old GRM that has an article on how he would tune his car with a laptop between runs (i dont know if a lot of people do that today, but that was unheard of back then)

Same here, been gettin then since 2002 . Yeah there are very few that have the availability to use those type of programs even now. His car if i remember correctly was pushing the rules to the max, which isnt illegal, just that it was very well tuned. Also, most driver in the series today arent full fledged professional drivers, most dont even run a full season and make it to their national championships. Also, im sure you're well aware, Aono is an corolla specialist. he's been driving the cars for many years, and is considered by many as an expert with the car. Here is his competition car specs.


HIS ENGINE

- 4AGE 16 valve motor by Hasselgren Engineering. which consist of: an AE101 block, lightened AE111 crank/rods, ported high comp 16v head, oversized 7MGTE valves,288 duration/10.0 lift cams, Underbucket shim set up, Hasselgren 11.3/1 CR 82mm pistons, Hasselgren 47mm throttles etc

Freedom ECU

- Earl's 19 row oil cooler

Baker Precision fuel lines

Griffin Radiator



HIS Suspension

- TRD race shocks with 550 lb springs

Watanabe 15x9J with Falken Tires

- Rear: Tokico race shocks with Swift springs

Watanabe 15x9J with Falken Tires

- Battle Version Tension rod & Pan hard rod

-Battle Version roll center adaptors & rear 4 links

- OS Giken limited slip diff w/ 4.7 final drive

-- OS Giken super single clutch


the car is more over built then most would assume. the local FSP guys here wouldnt stand a chance running coilovers, r -comps, sway bars and full exhausts on even more underpowered cars lol