okay I can live with that. I guess it is just that I haven't really seen a lot of stuff you guys have done except for that one accord. from my experience most shops I know. can usually tell you what type of equipment and some what kind of enclosure will be able them to keep with in a budget. Cost of equipment that will allow them to still build a desent set up. But thanks for the advice that you have given. best bet is to go to the actual location to talk face to face with them.