For those who say Michelle Obama is unpatriotic

[EJ25RUN]

He didnt say a new found love, he said he didn't love his country.

POW doesn't give you a pass to say whatever the hell you want.

Tony, you picked a bad example to compare. I think your one of very few that sees a problem with that statement. I felt patriotic hearing it.

I feel the point of your thread is to give everyone a fair view on what people say.

1. I heard from Michelle (and after further review thanx to this thread) i feel the same way i did about her opinion even with all that has been written.

2. I feel like McCain has nothing to be ashamed of with his statement. There is no law that says you cant have your own opinion. McCain grew to a person that really found what America represents and it was this that made him love it.

3. Imagine if Obama were to say the same thing, i would treat it the same way i am McCain, because people change and their believes change.

We are humans, we do that.

[tony]

Tony, you picked a bad example to compare. I think your one of very few that sees a problem with that statement. I felt patriotic hearing it.

I feel the point of your thread is to give everyone a fair view on what people say.

1. I heard from Michelle (and after further review thanx to this thread) i feel the same way i did about her opinion even with all that has been written.

2. I feel like McCain has nothing to be ashamed of with his statement. There is no law that says you cant have your own opinion. McCain grew to a person that really found what America represents and it was this that made him love it.

3. Imagine if Obama were to say the same thing, i would treat it the same way i am McCain, because people change and their believes change.

We are humans, we do that.

Then why was it wrong for Michelle Obama to say for the first time in her adult life she is really proud of her country?

[Lucky DAWG]

Then why was it wrong for Michelle Obama to say for the first time in her adult life she is really proud of her country?

Appreciating something for what it is (McCain) and liking something because it will hopefully change to the view you want of it (Michelle Obama) are two very different things.



You seem intelligent Tony, i don't understand how you don't see the difference, one involves appreciating something in its present state and the other involves molding it to what you want it to be.


its really a simple concept.

[stephen]

Appreciating something for what it is (McCain) and liking something because it will hopefully change to the view you want of it (Michelle Obama) are two very different things.



You seem intelligent Tony, i don't understand how you don't see the difference, one involves appreciating something in its present state and the other involves molding it to what you want it to be.


its really a simple concept.

let's say you're right, and she is now proud of this country for getting her closer to that goal....is that still wrong? i bet you were more proud of this country when you got your stimulus check this year right? i know i was! were we wrong for that? how many presidents do you think were more proud of their country for being elected "I'M PROUD OF MY AMERICAN PEOPLE". i just think people are intentionally taking what she said the wrong way. i SERIOUSLY doubt that she FINALLY was proud of her country, just like i SERIOUSLY doubt that mccain FINALLY fell in love with his country.

[Lucky DAWG]

let's say you're right, and she is now proud of this country for getting her closer to that goal....is that still wrong? i bet you were more proud of this country when you got your stimulus check this year right? i know i was! were we wrong for that? how many presidents do you think were more proud of their country for being elected "I'M PROUD OF MY AMERICAN PEOPLE". i just think people are intentionally taking what she said the wrong way. i SERIOUSLY doubt that she FINALLY was proud of her country, just like i SERIOUSLY doubt that mccain FINALLY fell in love with his country.

to the 1st bold: Probably a lot back in the day when the average person knew as much about politics as the brick laying next to you. No internet and no national news source made that kind of hard to educate them on politics.


to the 2nd bold: She said it, not me or you. So if you want to assume that then you are putting words in their mouths.

[Turbo04]

Then why was it wrong for Michelle Obama to say for the first time in her adult life she is really proud of her country?

Because again, it took McCain being captured and held as a POW to fully make him love and appreciate his country, I'm sure before that he just took for granted all the freedom and opportunities his country allowed him just for being born on this side of the Atlantic.

Mrs. Obama on the other hand is only proud "for the first time in her life" because her husband is moving closer (and her by association) to one of the most powerful positions in the world. I wonder if she would be un-proud if they lost the bid for the white house?

If the comments made by both parties were on par with each other situation wise, then I agree both should be viewed and treated the same. However saying that McCain's comments about his changing view and love for a country that came about due to his time as a POW is no where even close to being on the same lvl as off the cuff comments made by Obama's wife about her feelings on america, while she is 100% safe and sound in that same country she was never proud of until that moment.