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    Oh, here's the ratios of the gears if you're curious:

    1st = 3.077
    2nd = 2.105
    3rd = 1.652
    4th = 1.308
    5th = 1.033

    1st -> 2nd = 0.684
    2nd -> 3rd = 0.784
    3rd -> 4th = 0.792
    4th -> 5th = 0.790

    0.784 * 8500 = 6664 rpm

    rpms will be between 6600 - 8500 the whole way (except 1st -> 2nd)

    actually, the rpm drop will be moved to a higher window - as the rev limiter is 9500... A 9200 shift point should land it around 7200 in all of the upper gears.


    Compare this with the jdm and usdm gearing...


    usdm itr:

    1st 3.2310
    2nd 2.1050
    3rd 1.4580
    4th 1.1070
    5th 0.8480
    final 4.40


    jdm itr:
    1st 3.2310
    2nd 2.1050
    3rd 1.4580
    4th 1.0340
    5th 0.7880
    final 4.7860
    Last edited by Black R; 10-10-2006 at 11:37 PM.


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    More progress:

    Machining the 4th gear another mm or so:





    Measuring the inner ring of 5th gear on the countershaft side for a custom spacer...



    J, making cnc program to do a new snap fit spacer to keep the correct distance between 4th and 5th:









    Then he sets up the cnc machine and the bits that will be used:



























    Custom spacer done (17-4 stainless steel):





    Checking the fitment:



    Final once-over on the gear to get the burrs off:



    Finished:



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    Here's some more info on the tranny and gearing + costs.....

    B18c5 tranny with ATS final drive and ats 1,2,3,4,5 gearset:

    Gear Ratio Final MPH @ 9200 RPM @ 80 MPH

    1 - 3.077 - 15.18 - 42.2 - 17423
    2 - 2.105 - 10.35 - 62.0 - 11879
    3 - 1.652 - 8.13 - 78.9 - 9334
    4 - 1.308 - 6.46 - 99.3 - 7410
    5 - 1.033 - 5.08 - 126.3 - 5827
    Axle ratio - 4.929
    Tire diameter - 23.44" (I did this with a 205/50/15 tire as an example.)

    ATS gear ratios can be found here:

    http://www.a-t-s-usa.com/ats-p...shtml


    Here's an online calculator, so you can do your own comparison's:

    http://www.xse.com/leres/ss/calculator.html


    Cost, iirc was something like ~$800 for the gearset from a 'reputable' individual seller; but I couldn't use 1st because it was for a 4.4 final. So I had to buy a new ats 1st gear for 4.9 final ($350) and I also had to machine the 4th gear down and modify it. My buddy did those modifications for free, but I gave him a few $ for his trouble anyway. New, the gearset is in the $1200 range iirc, but then again MFactory sells a similar gearset for a lot less $. I'd look into that if I had it to do all over again.

    Bearings, syncro sets, seals, and shift forks, etc, ended up costing me over $1k by the time it was all said and done.

    The ats 4.9 final drive and ats lsd I already had from before I blew up the clutch. So if you wanted to have a full ats tranny like this, you're looking at a lot of $ retail.

    Is it worth it? Probably not. :P


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    well it's done! Right after finishing the install, I went to fire it up and check everything and noticed the radiator was squirting out a little fluid...

    So I got hooked up with a new radiator from MainStreamPerformance.com and installed it.

    I adjusted the clutch throw (by adjusting the cable) and nearly had a heart attack when it wouldn't go into any gear..... luckily I just needed to adjust the cable a little tighter. *whew*

    Well I drove it 60 miles that evening... in lower rpms the drop between shifts is only 500 rpm's.

    I cruised home at 70mph (5150rpm).

    I'd say it's not *that* agressive.....


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    i'll try to go back and put up the final pics as well as all the thanks to Craig (AssPenny) for the picture hosting through http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com, Galaxy Machine for the machining of the gear, Len @ Baranco, Mike and Charles @ http://www.mainstreamperformance.com, Ben (IN VTEC) for his support and help, and of course Willard and everyone else here who contributed.

    I've had a chance to daily drive the car for a while and rip on it down the hwy with some friends, street tune it a bit, autox an event, and even take the motor to ~10k...! It's safe to say that it's working well!

    I'll refine and get a final version up with torque specs in a bit. :thumbup: and thanks again!


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