yeah i know but it originally started as a quest to find info on builing my 23 all motor. And it seemed pretty good until i said 13:1 compression and everyone flaked and said its no point in doing. See i have a prelude cause i don't like following the band wagon and getting a little civic or something, but i also want to go further away from the norm by sticking with the h23 intsead of "H22VTEC". Vtec ain't all that to me. All i want to do is really build the shit out of my 23 so i can stomp mudholes in h22 all day.